NBA Grants Celtics a 2nd Round pick from OKC

[European NBA fan]

Ken Berger ‏@KBergCBS
In announcing draft-pick compensation to Celtics over Jeff Green heart condition, league says David Stern found "no evidence of bad faith."

Ken Berger ‏@KBergCBS
League says Stern found that OKC cardiologists had information on Green that was not disclosed to Thunder management or Celtics re: trade.

More or less what several people have guessed.

Darnell Mayberry ‏@DarnellMayberry
NBA also says "OKC's cardiologists were in possession of information about Jeff Green that was not shared with Thunder management."

Darnell Mayberry ‏@DarnellMayberry
More: "and that should have been disclosed to the Celtics in connection with the trade of Green in February 2011."

[jdz101]

So the Celtics get
#22 in 2012
Jeff Green's rights
Kristic
Charlotte's 2013 2nd rounder...

For
Perkins and Nate

And people still think this trade was bad? If you want the C's could just resign Perk this year when he gets amnestied for Harden to get paid...

If and when Perk gets amnestied and re-signs with Boston for the vet min, this board will explode

Perk may very likely get amnestied, but no way in heck does he not get bid on during the waiver portion of the amnesty process.  I could easily see some team, including us, bidding to pay $3-4 mil per year for the contract.  He's overpaid with his current contract, but he's above vet min quality.

That said, you are correct.  If we get him for the vet min, I will explode.

Perkins is not above vet min quality at all. He was a complete liability for them all year and one of the worst players in the league statistically. Danny is still giggling over avoiding that contract.

[Lucky17]

Ken Berger ‏@KBergCBS
In announcing draft-pick compensation to Celtics over Jeff Green heart condition, league says David Stern found "no evidence of bad faith."

Ken Berger ‏@KBergCBS
League says Stern found that OKC cardiologists had information on Green that was not disclosed to Thunder management or Celtics re: trade.

More or less what several people have guessed.

Darnell Mayberry ‏@DarnellMayberry
NBA also says "OKC's cardiologists were in possession of information about Jeff Green that was not shared with Thunder management."

Darnell Mayberry ‏@DarnellMayberry
More: "and that should have been disclosed to the Celtics in connection with the trade of Green in February 2011."

Wait, so OKC's medical staff knew something that "was not shared with Thunder management"? That sounds bogus/unbelievable/CYA.

[mctyson]

So the Celtics get
#22 in 2012
Jeff Green's rights
Kristic
Charlotte's 2013 2nd rounder...

For
Perkins and Nate

And people still think this trade was bad? If you want the C's could just resign Perk this year when he gets amnestied for Harden to get paid...

If and when Perk gets amnestied and re-signs with Boston for the vet min, this board will explode

Perk may very likely get amnestied, but no way in heck does he not get bid on during the waiver portion of the amnesty process.  I could easily see some team, including us, bidding to pay $3-4 mil per year for the contract.  He's overpaid with his current contract, but he's above vet min quality.

That said, you are correct.  If we get him for the vet min, I will explode.

Perkins is not above vet min quality at all. He was a complete liability for them all year and one of the worst players in the league statistically. Danny is still giggling over avoiding that contract.

[CelticSooner]

Thankful Celtic medical staff actually did their jobs.

[mctyson]

Ken Berger ‏@KBergCBS
In announcing draft-pick compensation to Celtics over Jeff Green heart condition, league says David Stern found "no evidence of bad faith."

Ken Berger ‏@KBergCBS
League says Stern found that OKC cardiologists had information on Green that was not disclosed to Thunder management or Celtics re: trade.

More or less what several people have guessed.

Darnell Mayberry ‏@DarnellMayberry
NBA also says "OKC's cardiologists were in possession of information about Jeff Green that was not shared with Thunder management."

Darnell Mayberry ‏@DarnellMayberry
More: "and that should have been disclosed to the Celtics in connection with the trade of Green in February 2011."

Sounds to me like they had an abnormal EKG, which often times does not lead to additional tests.  As another poster mentioned, many of these players have enlarged hearts and non-life-threatening arrhythmias. 

My guess is the Celts did an EKG, it lead to additional tests, found the abnormality, and questioned what OKC had.  If OKC docs had similar information (I am guessing they did), and this was not shared with OKC management before the trade, it makes sense that the league is forcing OKC to compensate the Celtics.

Good job by our team in this situation.  We caught a medical condition that could have killed Jeff Green.  We got it treated, he is fine....and we got a high 2nd round pick to boot.  Jeff Green re-signs, and away we go.

[Cman]

The Celtics are owed:

Boston Celtics: Receives 2012 first-round pick (top-10 protected through 2015) from the L.A. Clippers via the Oklahoma City Thunder via the Kendrick Perkins trade on 2/24/11.

Boston Celtics: Receives Minnesota’s 2013 second-round pick (via Boston from the Delonte West trade on 7/26/10) via the Luke Harangody trade on 2/24/11.

Boston Celtics: Receives New Jersey’s 2014 second-round pick via the JaJuan Johnson trade on 6/23/11.

Boston Celtics: Receives Sacramento’s 2015 second-round pick (top-55 protected) via the Sam Cassell trade on 2/17/09.

Boston Celtics: Receives Sacramento’s 2017 second-round pick via the Marquis Daniels trade on 2/24/11.

I thought there were protections on the last of those. My recollection was that both Sacto 2nd rounders were so heavily protected that Cs were unlikely to see them.

[Cman]

Celtics also owns the Cavs 2nd rounder in 2013 (Harangody-Erden trade) unprotected.

And now the Bobcats 2nd rounder, both likely 31-35. Their own 2nd rounder and their number 21 and 22 this year, those are 5 picks the C's can trade this summer.

Yes, but we've got 48 hours to trade or use the two first rounders -- I'm hoping one of those gets traded for a future first.

[LooseCannon]

I thought there were protections on the last of those. My recollection was that both Sacto 2nd rounders were so heavily protected that Cs were unlikely to see them.

That's what I thought too, but I just cut and paste.

[Lucky17]

I thought there were protections on the last of those. My recollection was that both Sacto 2nd rounders were so heavily protected that Cs were unlikely to see them.

That's what I thought too, but I just cut and paste.

They are. Both are top-55 protected, meaning unless Sacto finishes in the top 5 when the picks are due, they keep them.

[jyyzzoel]

so does anyone realise we now will have 4 draft picks next year:

* our first rounder
* our second rounder
* a second rounder from the charlotte bobcats
* a second rounder from the cavs from the semih erden, luke harangody trade.

[jyyzzoel]

Celtics also owns the Cavs 2nd rounder in 2013 (Harangody-Erden trade) unprotected.

And now the Bobcats 2nd rounder, both likely 31-35. Their own 2nd rounder and their number 21 and 22 this year, those are 5 picks the C's can trade this summer.

Yes, but we've got 48 hours to trade or use the two first rounders -- I'm hoping one of those gets traded for a future first.

what do you mean we have 48 hours?

[Lucky17]

so does anyone realise we now will have 4 draft picks next year:

* our first rounder
* our second rounder
* a second rounder from the charlotte bobcats
* a second rounder from the cavs from the semih erden, luke harangody trade.

The pick from the Cavs is actually Minnesota's.

[BballTim]

So the Celtics get
#22 in 2012
Jeff Green's rights
Kristic
Charlotte's 2013 2nd rounder...

For
Perkins and Nate

And people still think this trade was bad? If you want the C's could just resign Perk this year when he gets amnestied for Harden to get paid...

If and when Perk gets amnestied and re-signs with Boston for the vet min, this board will explode

Perk may very likely get amnestied, but no way in heck does he not get bid on during the waiver portion of the amnesty process.  I could easily see some team, including us, bidding to pay $3-4 mil per year for the contract.  He's overpaid with his current contract, but he's above vet min quality.

That said, you are correct.  If we get him for the vet min, I will explode.

Perkins is not above vet min quality at all. He was a complete liability for them all year and one of the worst players in the league statistically. Danny is still giggling over avoiding that contract.

  First of all, he wasn't all that bad. Secondly, it wouldn't be amazing if he played better next year, a year farther removed from his knee injury. Third, if Baby's worth 4/$26M, Perk's worth well more than the vet min. Take a look at what bigs on the market generally get.

[Cman]

Celtics also owns the Cavs 2nd rounder in 2013 (Harangody-Erden trade) unprotected.

And now the Bobcats 2nd rounder, both likely 31-35. Their own 2nd rounder and their number 21 and 22 this year, those are 5 picks the C's can trade this summer.

Yes, but we've got 48 hours to trade or use the two first rounders -- I'm hoping one of those gets traded for a future first.

what do you mean we have 48 hours?

The picks will be become players if we haven't traded them before we draft on Thursday night.