2012 'Pick Two' Draft Board

[indeedproceed]

Hey guys, remember that Time IP said he had the best staring 5? That was adorable.

PG: Steve Nash
SG: Dwayne Wade
SF: Danny Granger
PF: Derrick Favors
C: Marcin Gortat

6th man: Udonis Haslem.

Hm.

I love it. Yeah I really like this team. I want to argue with it, but this season, as long as Nash is all Nashy, I love it. I'm a big Favors fan, and I think Nash will have him averaging 16 points a game with 60% shooting. Wade's awesome of course (but brittle) but even if Wade's out as long as you can find a proficient replacement, its not a huge deal cuz there is a talent explosion there.

[wdleehi]

The New Houston Rockets

PG: Jose Calderon
SG: Mike Dunleavy (Quieltly have a pretty good year)
SF: Carmelo
PF: Kenyton Martin
C:  Big Al Jefferson

PF/C Ed Davis

Probably a playoff team, but I'd amend that 'probably' to a certitude if you can replace Kenyon Martin with Samuel Dalembert.

I'm saying this while wearing my Ed Davis superfan button on, but I like Ed Davis starting. I think his quickness and speed helps with Al Jefferson.

Even if K-Mart was dunking like he was still a Bearcat last night.

I think Ed Davis is quickly becoming one of the most overrated players in the NBA.  (In our fantasy keeper league, we saw somebody trade Blake Griffin for Ed Davis + a top-five pick.)  We're talking about a guy who is putting up 6 and 6 this year.  He had a lot of hype coming out of school, but has he done anything to warrant it, other than regressing from a solid-but-not-spectacular rookie season?

Play less the good defense?

[indeedproceed]

New Look Sums:

Collison
Reddick
Lebron
Landry
Mullens

Battier

thoughts??

I think it's a 45-49 win team and first round playoff exit.

There are a couple of things I'd love to see you do to improve the team ...

Firstly, I would move Carl Landry to the bench. He is ill-suited as a starter due to his limitations as a defender/rebounder but is a fantastic shot-creator out of the post to have coming off your bench.

Secondly, I'd move Byron Mullens to the bench for the same reason (limitations as a defender/rebounder) and again replace him with a part time starter. It could be a 10-15 minute a night player or a 20-25 minute a night player depending on what type of quality you can get.

Thirdly, I'd move Darren Collison. I don't think he is a good fit alongside a ball-dominant wing like LeBron James. There are a couple of direction you could go in. You could either trade him for a pick or player and (1) replace him with more of an off-the-ball type PG, or, (2) you could dump the PG altogether and play another wing (perhaps Battier). Let JJ Redick initiate the offense and LeBron be your creative playmaker. You could bring D.Collison off the bench as a change of pace PG in that scenario with Battier starting. That could work.

At least that is what I'd be looking to do with that roster to give it more shape. More defensive integrity while maximizing the talent that are already on your team.  

I agree with this.

[StartOrien]

Marc Gasol is the second best center in the NBa.

I bet you insist that Target is totally better than Wal-Mart as well, even though you know they only bump their prices to keep poor people out.

Marc Gasol indeed.

Wait. You're saying Walmart is better than Target?

[Roy H.]

The New Houston Rockets

PG: Jose Calderon
SG: Mike Dunleavy (Quieltly have a pretty good year)
SF: Carmelo
PF: Kenyton Martin
C:  Big Al Jefferson

PF/C Ed Davis

Probably a playoff team, but I'd amend that 'probably' to a certitude if you can replace Kenyon Martin with Samuel Dalembert.

I'm saying this while wearing my Ed Davis superfan button on, but I like Ed Davis starting. I think his quickness and speed helps with Al Jefferson.

Even if K-Mart was dunking like he was still a Bearcat last night.

I think Ed Davis is quickly becoming one of the most overrated players in the NBA.  (In our fantasy keeper league, we saw somebody trade Blake Griffin for Ed Davis + a top-five pick.)  We're talking about a guy who is putting up 6 and 6 this year.  He had a lot of hype coming out of school, but has he done anything to warrant it, other than regressing from a solid-but-not-spectacular rookie season?

Play less the good defense?

Yeah, his defense is pretty brutal right now.  Like, 340th in the league bad, and routinely getting destroyed by his opponent bad.

[KCattheStripe]

I'll take the guy who scores more points, shoots a higher percentage, grabs more boards, and blocks as many shots in fewer minutes. 

I'll take the guy who is more versatile offensively-- which leads to a lower percentage because he actually takes elbow jumpers-- and a significantly better passer, a guy who sacrifices his own game to make the team better but takes over when he has to, and also isn't a punk and a cheap shot artist who can play more minutes because he doesn't run the risk of a season ending injury with every half-hearted pick he sets.

But hey, to each his own.

[indeedproceed]

Marc Gasol is the second best center in the NBa.

I bet you insist that Target is totally better than Wal-Mart as well, even though you know they only bump their prices to keep poor people out.

Marc Gasol indeed.

Wait. You're saying Walmart is better than Target?

They're the same!

[KCattheStripe]

Marc Gasol is the second best center in the NBa.

I bet you insist that Target is totally better than Wal-Mart as well, even though you know they only bump their prices to keep poor people out.

Marc Gasol indeed.

Target is better than a regular Wal*Mart. But it is not as good as a 24 hour Super Wal*Mart.

[indeedproceed]

I'll take the guy who scores more points, shoots a higher percentage, grabs more boards, and blocks as many shots in fewer minutes.  

I'll take the guy who is more versatile offensively-- which leads to a lower percentage because he actually takes elbow jumpers-- and a significantly better passer, a guy who sacrifices his own game to make the team better but takes over when he has to, and also isn't a punk and a cheap shot artist who can play more minutes because he doesn't run the risk of a season ending injury with every half-hearted pick he sets.

But hey, to each his own.

True indeed. You've gotta factor this in when evaluating the Cavs. Kobe can't keep Bynum above the fold consistently, why are the Cavs gonna have a shot of getting the best of him without also getting the rest of him?

[KCattheStripe]

I'll take the guy who scores more points, shoots a higher percentage, grabs more boards, and blocks as many shots in fewer minutes.  

I'll take the guy who is more versatile offensively-- which leads to a lower percentage because he actually takes elbow jumpers-- and a significantly better passer, a guy who sacrifices his own game to make the team better but takes over when he has to, and also isn't a punk and a cheap shot artist who can play more minutes because he doesn't run the risk of a season ending injury with every half-hearted pick he sets.

But hey, to each his own.

True indeed. You've gotta factor this in when evaluating the Cavs. Kobe can't keep Bynum above the fold consistently, why are the Cavs gonna have a shot of getting the best of him without also getting the rest of him?

The Underlined is the difference between a Wal*Mart and a Target, Target actually tries. Now if you could keep Bynum open 24 hours...

[StartOrien]

Marc Gasol is the second best center in the NBa.

I bet you insist that Target is totally better than Wal-Mart as well, even though you know they only bump their prices to keep poor people out.

Marc Gasol indeed.

Wait. You're saying Walmart is better than Target?

They're the same!

Most insane comment you've made to date.

[Roy H.]

I'll take the guy who scores more points, shoots a higher percentage, grabs more boards, and blocks as many shots in fewer minutes.  

I'll take the guy who is more versatile offensively-- which leads to a lower percentage because he actually takes elbow jumpers-- and a significantly better passer, a guy who sacrifices his own game to make the team better but takes over when he has to, and also isn't a punk and a cheap shot artist who can play more minutes because he doesn't run the risk of a season ending injury with every half-hearted pick he sets.

But hey, to each his own.

True indeed. You've gotta factor this in when evaluating the Cavs. Kobe can't keep Bynum above the fold consistently, why are the Cavs gonna have a shot of getting the best of him without also getting the rest of him?

It's all about teaching Bynum the difference between hard fouls and dirty fouls.  However, if he occasionally crosses that line, so be it.  We'd rather have opposing players be intimidated rather than play soft.  Drive the lane, you risk getting a collapsed lung.

[nickagneta]

Hey guys, remember that Time IP said he had the best staring 5? That was adorable.

PG: Steve Nash
SG: Dwayne Wade
SF: Danny Granger
PF: Derrick Favors
C: Marcin Gortat

6th man: Udonis Haslem.

I said this to KC in PM. I loved the trade for the Suns because they got the best player and had parts that would make that team a contender out west for years.

That said, Phoenix traded the best player in the world and possiblt came out with a more balanced and complete team and a team much better suited to compete in the east against teams like NY, Cle, Indy, and Chicago.

[KCattheStripe]

I'll take the guy who scores more points, shoots a higher percentage, grabs more boards, and blocks as many shots in fewer minutes.  

I'll take the guy who is more versatile offensively-- which leads to a lower percentage because he actually takes elbow jumpers-- and a significantly better passer, a guy who sacrifices his own game to make the team better but takes over when he has to, and also isn't a punk and a cheap shot artist who can play more minutes because he doesn't run the risk of a season ending injury with every half-hearted pick he sets.

But hey, to each his own.

True indeed. You've gotta factor this in when evaluating the Cavs. Kobe can't keep Bynum above the fold consistently, why are the Cavs gonna have a shot of getting the best of him without also getting the rest of him?

It's all about teaching Bynum the difference between hard fouls and dirty fouls.  However, if he occasionally crosses that line, so be it.  We'd rather have opposing players be intimidated rather than play soft.  Drive the lane, you risk getting a collapsed lung.

But doesn't Bynum, as brittle as he is, run the same risk trying to stop the guy driving the lane?

[indeedproceed]

Marc Gasol is the second best center in the NBa.

I bet you insist that Target is totally better than Wal-Mart as well, even though you know they only bump their prices to keep poor people out.

Marc Gasol indeed.

Wait. You're saying Walmart is better than Target?

They're the same!

Most insane comment you've made to date.

THEY'RE THE SAME!!