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Re: Lakers trade may be challenged by owners?
« Reply #120 on: December 08, 2011, 10:16:28 PM »

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Re: Lakers trade may be challenged by owners?
« Reply #121 on: December 08, 2011, 10:17:27 PM »

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Chris Paul fuming and exploring legal options w/NBPA director Billy Hunter to fight blocked deal.

Rumor that he won't report to Hornets tomorrow.

Re: Lakers trade may be challenged by owners?
« Reply #122 on: December 08, 2011, 10:18:46 PM »

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This is about the only time I'll post the Lakers Blog up here on ours, but I couldn't resist.

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Re: Lakers trade may be challenged by owners?
« Reply #123 on: December 08, 2011, 10:18:58 PM »

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Chris Paul fuming and exploring legal options w/NBPA director Billy Hunter to fight blocked deal.

Rumor that he won't report to Hornets tomorrow.

Drama drama drama.

Re: Lakers trade may be challenged by owners?
« Reply #124 on: December 08, 2011, 10:20:23 PM »

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I'd be heated too.  I bet the deal goes through.  It's just too crazy to think they'd cancel a deal that all of the parties directly involved agree to.  Only thing to stop it, would be if one of the sides backed out i think.

Re: Lakers trade may be challenged by owners?
« Reply #125 on: December 08, 2011, 10:21:15 PM »

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Chris Paul fuming and exploring legal options w/NBPA director Billy Hunter to fight blocked deal.

Rumor that he won't report to Hornets tomorrow.

Not sure he has a case.  The owners all are part owners of the Hornets, and they are trying to protect their investment, in order to resell it.  They have every right to say no to a trade like that.

I think it was decent value in return for a GM trying to keep his job, but it was a terrible return for a team trying to be sold.

Unfortunately, the league let this happen by owning the team in the first place, and allowing a situation where there is no real direction for the GM.

Re: Lakers trade may be challenged by owners?
« Reply #126 on: December 08, 2011, 10:22:00 PM »

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They should have canceled the stupid season. The league is seriously messed up.

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Re: Lakers trade may be challenged by owners?
« Reply #127 on: December 08, 2011, 10:22:18 PM »

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Lamar obviously isn't too happy either:

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Re: Lakers trade may be challenged by owners?
« Reply #128 on: December 08, 2011, 10:23:37 PM »

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Chris Paul fuming and exploring legal options w/NBPA director Billy Hunter to fight blocked deal.

Rumor that he won't report to Hornets tomorrow.
Interesting.  Well apparently NBA owners veto trades all the time... Danny Ainge could agree to trade Big Al, etc for Kevin Garnett, but then Wyc Groesbeck has to accept it.  In this instance, the "owner" is the NBA.  So in reality the owner of the Hornets decided against the trade... but since the NBA owns the Hornets it reads like, "The NBA declined the trade" and everyone flips their lid.   

The problem seems to be the relationship between the Hornets management and ownership which is obviously different than Danny Ainge and Wyc Groesbeck.  And I guess on top of that, the problem is the media for jumping the gun.  Usually there are internal discussions between ownership and the GM on who they are targeting... for example, we can assume Ainge and Wyc are currently both on the same page in regards to trading Rondo for CP3...   but in this instance because it's an "NBA owned team", I have feelings the problem is the communication between Dell Demps and whoever is the default "ownership" entity from the NBA's side (David Stern?).... Severely doubt that Demps and Stern had "internal" discussions beforehand about whether the package of Odom, Kevin Martin and Scola would be "enough".   So unfortunately it's a process error... As opposed to having internal discussions with ownership, Dell Demps is basically out there by himself coming up with trade proposals... and then it's up to the NBA on whether or not they want to accept it. 

In other words... I don't think CP can do crap about this... and I'd blame the media for causing this. 

PS... everything I just said is just how I'm currently viewing the situation.  I may be way off.

Re: Lakers trade may be challenged by owners?
« Reply #129 on: December 08, 2011, 10:24:11 PM »

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Apparently, Stern didn't want Paul going to the Lakers because he wanted to go there.

Sooo since he DOESN'T apparently want Boston?..

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« Reply #130 on: December 08, 2011, 10:25:04 PM »

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Re: Lakers trade may be challenged by owners?
« Reply #131 on: December 08, 2011, 10:26:08 PM »

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I don't think Rondo, or anyone other player linked to New Orleans over the past few days, is a big enough star to markedly change the price of the team. There only a handful of guys in the league who are capable of doing that and nobody is offering any one of them for C.Paul.

I also fail to see how keeping C.Paul so that he can leave in 7-8 months time for nothing in return is in the Hornets best interests. Both competitively and/or in terms of selling the team.
der. They want to doing whatever they can to stop that.
Don't agree at all.

New Orleans is a market where half the city and populace disappeared a few years ago because of a hurricane.

The Hornets only had 6000 season ticket holders until the team went on a full fledged marketing push selling Chris Paul on the Hornets and was able to pick up 4000 more season ticket holders. What happens to those season ticket holders and the the revenue streams from local advertisers and media deals if there is no top superstar there to market?

The perception of the team's value is in their ability to sell tickets, sell local advertising and secure local media broadcasting that can be kept because it isn't in the BRI. If there  are no hugely marketable stars there, the franchise value will go down, especially in an ever shrinking market like New Orleans.

The buyers would probably want to low ball the NBA knowing the NBA wants to keep the Hornets in New Orleans and the buyers will come forward saying keeping the Hornets in NO isn't feasible to making money without a superstar so the franchise value is less. Or the buyer will say they will pay the higher price but want permission to move the team to a larger market with better opportunities at larger local revenue streams.
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Re: Lakers trade may be challenged by owners?
« Reply #132 on: December 08, 2011, 10:26:38 PM »

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Re: Lakers trade may be challenged by owners?
« Reply #133 on: December 08, 2011, 10:27:28 PM »

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Lamar obviously isn't too happy either:

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Wow! Talk 2 me people. I couldn't even get the phone call.
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[dang]. Every organization involved in this is looking bad right now.  

Re: Lakers trade may be challenged by owners?
« Reply #134 on: December 08, 2011, 10:28:49 PM »

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"The owners half-pushed this through, and Stern took it the rest of the way," a league source involved in nixed trade told Y! Sports.

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"In the end, David didn’t like that the players were dictating where they wanted to go," source says.

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League source on killed deal: "...(Stern) wasn't going to let Chris Paul dictate where he wanted to go."

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Does this mean Demps didn't like what he was getting in return but was being forced by Paul in someway?
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