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Re: Lakers trade may be challenged by owners?
« Reply #90 on: December 08, 2011, 09:52:27 PM »

Offline Celtics18

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I say let it go through.  This is dumb. 
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Re: Lakers trade may be challenged by owners?
« Reply #91 on: December 08, 2011, 09:53:29 PM »

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This is about the only time I'll post the Lakers Blog up here on ours, but I couldn't resist.

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Re: Lakers trade may be challenged by owners?
« Reply #92 on: December 08, 2011, 09:53:42 PM »

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Maybe I'm looking too much into this, but does anyone think this confirms the rumors that CP3 was looking to go to a big name team all along?  I'm pretty sure this tweet is in response to what just happened.

Re: Lakers trade may be challenged by owners?
« Reply #93 on: December 08, 2011, 09:56:13 PM »

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Maybe I'm looking too much into this, but does anyone think this confirms the rumors that CP3 was looking to go to a big name team all along?  I'm pretty sure this tweet is in response to what just happened.

I see it the way you do.
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Re: Lakers trade may be challenged by owners?
« Reply #94 on: December 08, 2011, 09:56:26 PM »

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Well, if a bunch of NBA owners can see how bad this trade was for the league like we can, maybe there is hope.

Re: Lakers trade may be challenged by owners?
« Reply #95 on: December 08, 2011, 09:57:25 PM »

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CP3 Chris Paul
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40 minutes ago

Maybe I'm looking too much into this, but does anyone think this confirms the rumors that CP3 was looking to go to a big name team all along?  I'm pretty sure this tweet is in response to what just happened.

I'm thinking he just started a World of Warcraft account.


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Re: Lakers trade may be challenged by owners?
« Reply #96 on: December 08, 2011, 09:57:41 PM »

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Makes complete sense. The NBA (Aka, all 30 owners as a whole) own the Hornets and foot all their bills.

They didn't have any luck selling that team with Chris Paul. With the package they were getting, there wasn't any cap relief, and not a single marketable player going to them.

What's better to potential buyers? Aging NBA middle men, or younger, marketable prospects?

I guarantee you Rondo for Paul isn't vetoed.

well if it wouldnt have been before, it would be now.  I do agree with you though.

Imagine the uproar around the league if the NBA kills one deal to the Lakers and then turns around and lets a deal going to the Lakers biggest historical and current rival stand.

I mean, I dont have a problem with it, but I could imagine some other folks might be a little peeved  ;D
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Re: Lakers trade may be challenged by owners?
« Reply #97 on: December 08, 2011, 09:57:51 PM »

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Wow, so does mean that the Hornets are not allowed to trade Chris Paul under any circumstances until after the team is sold?

That is what it sounds like to me.
I am going to repeat the question, does this mean that Boston cannot trade Rondo for Paul until after the Hornets are sold?

Wow, if so, that franchise is really going to get screwed if they are not sold before the trade deadline.

I don´t think you can expect a definite answer here. Seems as if the owners didn´t like
the fact that a small market team was forced to trade their star player to a big market team because his contract runs out. Hard to say if they would veto a CP trade to Memphis or Charlotte. I´d say it depends on the circumstances, and how the owners view the current incarnation of the Celtics. Considering the rumor that Paul doesn´t want to sign an extension with us, I don´t see how they could apply the same argument for a possible Boston deal.
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Re: Lakers trade may be challenged by owners?
« Reply #98 on: December 08, 2011, 09:58:06 PM »

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Here's the reasons the trade didn't happen

1. The 29 other owners own the Hornets and are sick and tired of players controlling where they end up to the detriment of the team that owns them.

2. The other 29 owners bought the Hornets and want to sell them as soon as possible AND, they don't want to lose money while doing it. They are convinced sending Paul out and getting Scola, Odom, Martin, Dragic and a late draft pick would make the team less valuable and harder to sell it. The last thing these other owners want to do is lose money while buying and selling A DIFFERENT TEAM.

3. The perception of favoritism towards the Lakers after the last Gasol deal were overwhelming. Allowing another lopsided deal to LA after that Gasol trade, the 2002 Kings-Lakers playoff officiating and the Donaghy allegations and scandal would alienate more NBA fans nationwide than the NBA lockout did.

Re: Lakers trade may be challenged by owners?
« Reply #99 on: December 08, 2011, 09:58:11 PM »

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People are p---ED over on the Hornets forums.  They actually liked the Lakers deal.  It seems like no one over there is even considering the celts deal.  Theyre all saying the only good thing that could come out of the deal being held up, is if the clips and warriors sweeten their deals.  Boston really isnt even in the running to them.

Not even in the running?!!?!?!....didn't they hear about CP3 being scheduled for a physical for tomorrow  here in Boston earlier in the day before NO made their last round of calls to give teams a last chance before NO finalized the Cs offer???

Not in the running as in they didnt think our offer measured up to anyone elses.  Basically they dont see our players like we do.  Here's a link to one of their threads.  Yall can maneuver through their forums from there

http://www.hornetsreport.com/HRForums/showthread.php?66967-Draft-picks-will-be-a-1st-and-a-2nd

+1 dtrader for the link...thanks....

and the ?!?!!??! were directed, not at you, but at those fans on that board who didn't think that the Cs were even in the running because of their own biased, personal opinions  of the deal, when in actuality it was almost a done deal by management and shows me that they might be out of touch with the value of two young talented palyers like Rondo and Green and two firsts that both we and the Hornets decision-makers valued more ...sounds like the youth and picks that they were originally screaming for, No?..again, thanks

always great to here what the other boards are saying

From their boards, the player they really wanted was Curry.  That seems to be the overall preference over there.  But once he was pulled, they wanted "young prospects and picks" to build with.  It seems like over there (as over here), there was a lot of question regarding whether or not we were including picks, and exactly what picks those would be.  The only things they knew were in play from us were Rondo and Green, and that was a not starter for them, as they didnt see either as a piece to rebuild around.  Rondo because of his obvious limitations, and Green probably for a lot of reasons (no real "position", underperforming last year, used to being 3rd option, seems to coast at times, etc).  

I understand how they feel about Green. I think a lot of us feel pretty similar to that.  He's been unimpressive with us so far, and was just a 3rd option in OKC.  The main thing in our trade proposal was Rondo.  For us, that seems like it should be enough because of how we see him (leader on our team, one of the pieces of our "future", etc). To them though he's basically just a one dimensional player.  Even if he does excel in that 1 dimension...its not enough for a team to build on from scratch

In the Lakers deal, they saw picks for the future, and young PG with potential, and 3 other good to great players to either keep or flip for other young players.  

Re: Lakers trade may be challenged by owners?
« Reply #100 on: December 08, 2011, 09:58:29 PM »

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CP3 Chris Paul
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Maybe I'm looking too much into this, but does anyone think this confirms the rumors that CP3 was looking to go to a big name team all along?  I'm pretty sure this tweet is in response to what just happened.

I'm thinking he just started a World of Warcraft account.

Hey man, he's gotta take his anger out somehow.

Re: Lakers trade may be challenged by owners?
« Reply #101 on: December 08, 2011, 09:58:43 PM »

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This is the ulimate schadenfreude!  Any time something bad happens to the Lakers it's pure joy.

Re: Lakers trade may be challenged by owners?
« Reply #102 on: December 08, 2011, 09:58:57 PM »

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This is about the only time I'll post the Lakers Blog up here on ours, but I couldn't resist.

http://www.silverscreenandroll.com/

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LOL!! Lakers misery for the win! TP for posting that.


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Re: Lakers trade may be challenged by owners?
« Reply #103 on: December 08, 2011, 10:02:14 PM »

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This is about the only time I'll post the Lakers Blog up here on ours, but I couldn't resist.

http://www.silverscreenandroll.com/

 ;D

LOL!! Lakers misery for the win! TP for posting that.

oh good lord that is so awesome.


"He's on a short leash being yanked by owners whose teams will suck forever and therefore have no choice but to drag the smart and successful down to their level."

Geeze, spoiled much?

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Re: Lakers trade may be challenged by owners?
« Reply #104 on: December 08, 2011, 10:03:07 PM »

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bahahaha
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