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Re: Lakers trade may be challenged by owners?
« Reply #135 on: December 08, 2011, 10:30:02 PM »

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If the owners are really concerned about this deal, all they have to do is ask for more from the Laker like Gasol and Bynum and see if the laker still do the deal.  They should be pushing for a better deal. 

I dread that this deal will go through tomorrow or by next week....

Re: Lakers trade may be challenged by owners?
« Reply #136 on: December 08, 2011, 10:30:03 PM »

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"In the end, David didn’t like that the players were dictating where they wanted to go," source says.

Well CP3 has dictated that he DIDN'T want to come here so a trade to the C's should be fine.

Get it done Danny.

Re: Lakers trade may be challenged by owners?
« Reply #137 on: December 08, 2011, 10:30:20 PM »

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I don't think Rondo, or anyone other player linked to New Orleans over the past few days, is a big enough star to markedly change the price of the team. There only a handful of guys in the league who are capable of doing that and nobody is offering any one of them for C.Paul.

I also fail to see how keeping C.Paul so that he can leave in 7-8 months time for nothing in return is in the Hornets best interests. Both competitively and/or in terms of selling the team.
der. They want to doing whatever they can to stop that.
Don't agree at all.

New Orleans is a market where half the city and populace disappeared a few years ago because of a hurricane.

The Hornets only had 6000 season ticket holders until the team went on a full fledged marketing push selling Chris Paul on the Hornets and was able to pick up 4000 more season ticket holders. What happens to those season ticket holders and the the revenue streams from local advertisers and media deals if there is no top superstar there to market?

The perception of the team's value is in their ability to sell local advertising and media money that can be kept because it isn't in the BRI. If there are no hugely marketable stars there, the franchise value will go down, especially in an ever shrinking market like New Orleans.

The buyers would probably want to low ball the NBA knowing the NBA wants to keep the Hornets in New Orleans and the buyers will come forward saying keeping the Hornets in NO isn't feasible to making money without a superstar so the franchise value is less. Or the buyer will say they will pay the higher price but want permission to move the team to a larger market with better opportunities at larger local revenue streams.
Chris Paul is gone next summer. Every prospective new owner will know that. They are not going to pay extra for player who isn't going to be there.

Re: Lakers trade may be challenged by owners?
« Reply #138 on: December 08, 2011, 10:31:15 PM »

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If the owners are really concerned about this deal, all they have to do is ask for more from the Laker like Gasol and Bynum and see if the laker still do the deal.  They should be pushing for a better deal. 

I dread that this deal will go through tomorrow or by next week....

As long as they don't get to keep Bynum I'm down. You knew exactly how this was going to play out if they got to keep him.

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Re: Lakers trade may be challenged by owners?
« Reply #139 on: December 08, 2011, 10:31:27 PM »

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Not so fast...

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NBA owners have pushed commissioner David Stern to kill the deal sending Chris Paul to the Los Angeles Lakers, sources tell Y! Sports.

  Probably not the owners, probably the Kardashians, who never really believed that people lived on that land the LA-NY flights go over, and can't really see themselves filming episodes of their show there.

Re: Lakers trade may be challenged by owners?
« Reply #140 on: December 08, 2011, 10:32:22 PM »

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Chris Paul fuming and exploring legal options w/NBPA director Billy Hunter to fight blocked deal.

Rumor that he won't report to Hornets tomorrow.
He must really want to be a Laker. How sad lol
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Re: Lakers trade may be challenged by owners?
« Reply #141 on: December 08, 2011, 10:33:50 PM »

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You know, I call conspiracy theory on this one. So the Hornets (AKA NBA) was apparently about to pull the trigger and send Paul to Boston and the Hornets (NBA)called all the teams to tell them this. Okay... why? If you want to pull the trigger on a deal, you like the deal wouldn't you just make the call and do the deal? Unless Hornets (NBA) wanted Paul to go to a bigger market and Paul didn't want to come to Boston so he had the "powers that be" call around again, so CP3 runs the Hornets now?

I like that David Stern blocked this deal, Woj from yahoo said on his twitter or whatever it was:
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League source on killed deal: "...(Stern) wasn't going to let Chris Paul dictate where he wanted to go."

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"In the end, David didn’t like that the players were dictating where they wanted to go," source says.

Hell yeah, you're being traded Chris Paul, this isn't free agency I'm sorry... get over it. If they want to send you to the Timberwolves or the 76ers or Canada they can and you have no say... cause you're not supposed to.

In the future no player should be able to dictate where they are traded to.
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Re: Lakers trade may be challenged by owners?
« Reply #142 on: December 08, 2011, 10:38:13 PM »

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I don't think Rondo, or anyone other player linked to New Orleans over the past few days, is a big enough star to markedly change the price of the team. There only a handful of guys in the league who are capable of doing that and nobody is offering any one of them for C.Paul.

I also fail to see how keeping C.Paul so that he can leave in 7-8 months time for nothing in return is in the Hornets best interests. Both competitively and/or in terms of selling the team.
der. They want to doing whatever they can to stop that.
Don't agree at all.

New Orleans is a market where half the city and populace disappeared a few years ago because of a hurricane.

The Hornets only had 6000 season ticket holders until the team went on a full fledged marketing push selling Chris Paul on the Hornets and was able to pick up 4000 more season ticket holders. What happens to those season ticket holders and the the revenue streams from local advertisers and media deals if there is no top superstar there to market?

The perception of the team's value is in their ability to sell local advertising and media money that can be kept because it isn't in the BRI. If there are no hugely marketable stars there, the franchise value will go down, especially in an ever shrinking market like New Orleans.

The buyers would probably want to low ball the NBA knowing the NBA wants to keep the Hornets in New Orleans and the buyers will come forward saying keeping the Hornets in NO isn't feasible to making money without a superstar so the franchise value is less. Or the buyer will say they will pay the higher price but want permission to move the team to a larger market with better opportunities at larger local revenue streams.
Chris Paul is gone next summer. Every prospective new owner will know that. They are not going to pay extra for player who isn't going to be there.
But a new owner could attempt to change Paul's mind or control where to send Paul in a sign and trade and control who he wants on his team. This way that new prospective owner can't do any of these things. In a new owner's mind Paul not being there is not a completely done deal, even if it is in your mind or other people's minds.

Re: Lakers trade may be challenged by owners?
« Reply #143 on: December 08, 2011, 10:38:17 PM »

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I wish "the decision" was challenged and blocked too. ;)
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Re: Lakers trade may be challenged by owners?
« Reply #144 on: December 08, 2011, 10:39:18 PM »

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I wish "the decision" was challenged and blocked too. ;)

That's ok - Dirk blocked that one.

Re: Lakers trade may be challenged by owners?
« Reply #145 on: December 08, 2011, 10:39:59 PM »

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I think it could play out perfectly for us if they were forced to keep CP3 all year.

With the Knicks about to sign Chandler, it would basically be the Celtics and Clippers bidding to be the only two teams who can sign both CP3 and DH12 next year.

Re: Lakers trade may be challenged by owners?
« Reply #146 on: December 08, 2011, 10:40:24 PM »

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I wish "the decision" was challenged and blocked too. ;)

That's ok - Dirk blocked that one.

Ha..only partially though.
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Re: Lakers trade may be challenged by owners?
« Reply #147 on: December 08, 2011, 10:42:32 PM »

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Re: Lakers trade may be challenged by owners?
« Reply #148 on: December 08, 2011, 10:42:35 PM »

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Could anyone tell me where this "Owners vetoed trade because it wasn´t in the Hornets best interests" story comes from? All I read is the owners didn´t like that a player is able to hold his team hostage, especially after the recent lockout, which sounds plausible.

Am I missing something?
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Re: Lakers trade may be challenged by owners?
« Reply #149 on: December 08, 2011, 10:43:44 PM »

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I'm laughing at how so many people on the realgm board are saying but Melo is allowed to leave, deron is allowed to leave


the fact of the matter is, we have no Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline.ing idea what was discussed during the lockout and CBA negotiations, but it doesn't doubt me at all that they discussed the whole Miami signing lebron, wade, and bosh and their goals of not allowing that again

distribution of stars is what the league is looking for