Not Buying Marquis Daniels

[slamtheking]

C's have to upgrade. He doesn't cut especially not for a contender. He is severely undersized @ the 3. Has very limited range. When he is on the floor, he handicaps the team offensively. Marquis is also a terrible rebounder, and brings Zero intangibles. He is a decent 2nd wing off the bench, not the 1st

Here is a list of his direct competition:

Miami:           Mike Miller>Marquis Daniels
Los Angeles:     Matt Barnes>Marquis Daniels
Orlando:         Mickael Pietrus>Marquis Daniels
Dallas:          Shawn Marion>Marquis Daniels
Chicago:         Ronnie Brewer>Marquis Daneils

Extreme Scenario: Pierce suspended for a Game. Do you trust Marquis Daniels to preform?

out of that bunch, I'd still take Quisy.

Miller's hurt, Barnes doesn't have the offensive skills, Pietrus doesn't have the offensive skills but I could live with him instead of Quisy, Marion isn't the player he once was and can't play SG and Ronnie Brewer isn't as good on either end of the floor.

Quisy's effectiveness depends on getting the ball where he can do something with it.  most of the time, Nate hasn't been doing that.

[Redz]

Doc..."I'm going to stay on him, because I think he can be that good every night."

[2short]

How `bout now?

I don't know how many of his points came off monster dunks?

[Change]

How `bout now?

One game, puh-leez.

Holler when he does it consistently.

[Redz]

How `bout now?

I don't know how many of his points came off monster dunks?

When Quizzy's in da house RIMs PAY  

[2short]

How `bout now?

I don't know how many of his points came off monster dunks?

When Quizzy's in da house RIMs PAY  

ahh someone else didn't pick up on it 
hey with starter like minutes this is how marquis produces, he'd played really well, not just offense but very good d
pierce played great d and got a nice rest, not sure on ray's minutes but that is why we have these guys
I actually was hoping to see a backcourt with about 5 minutes of daniels&bradley

[Change]

2 straight games without a POINT. Told you. If he can't produce against lesser competition, what makes everybody think he'll do against the contenders. Celtics must address this backup position soon. At the very least, get another guy who pushes Marquis. Clearly Von Wafer won't be challenging Q.

[Celtics18]

I worry about Marquis' fragility.  Apparently he's had a hurt thumb the last couple of games, and he looks totally different.  He doesn't seem to be able to play through stuff the way alot of stouter players can.

If he can stay relatively healthy, though, and be healthy and in a flow when it matters, then I really like his game.  It's not predicated on ferocious dunks, explosive drives and the kind of pit-bull style that we got out of Tony Allen.  Marquis' game is smooth and cerebral, full of nice cuts, sweet head fakes and improbable floaters.  On D he has quick hands and knows how to use that feel for the game that he shows on offense to get in passing lanes and get deflections.  He can fight through picks and defend one on one well enough to get time against good players from the 1 to the 3.

Stay healthy Marquis.  I like your game.

[hwangjini_1]

I agree. Daniels has not been a scorer for the celtics by and large. But his defense is wonderful to watch. It means that pierce doesn't have to shoulder the entire burden of guarding another teams's best sf. Also a number of times I saw Daniels Harry players on Chicago and other teams, not just sf.

The second unit lacks a consistent shooter from outside, but that is not Daniels role.

I like Daniels being on the celtics this year.

[Drucci]

I worry about Marquis' fragility.  Apparently he's had a hurt thumb the last couple of games, and he looks totally different.  He doesn't seem to be able to play through stuff the way alot of stouter players can.

If he can stay relatively healthy, though, and be healthy and in a flow when it matters, then I really like his game.  It's not predicated on ferocious dunks, explosive drives and the kind of pit-bull style that we got out of Tony Allen.  Marquis' game is smooth and cerebral, full of nice cuts, sweet head fakes and improbable floaters.  On D he has quick hands and knows how to use that feel for the game that he shows on offense to get in passing lanes and get deflections.  He can fight through picks and defend one on one well enough to get time against good players from the 1 to the 3.

Stay healthy Marquis.  I like your game.

I'm worried about Marquis' health too, he said his thumb was fine and "just sore" after he hurt it against Denver but against Philly he didn't attempt a single shot (!) and basically was invisible offensively... I hope it was just because of the back to back and he hadn't had time to rest the thumb or whatever because otherwise it means the thumb (different from last year's by the way) is seriously hurt and we know how that bodes for Marquis on the court.

[Birdbrain]

If he is indeed dealing with another thumb injury that doesn't explain his total lack of focus on defense the other night.  Marquis is mixed bag.  He'll show up 1 game and then he's sleepy Marquis the next.  That's who he's always been injuries or not.  None of this means they need to make a move of course just that Marquis is what he is.  When they get some bodies back they can keep him on the bench during the sleepy Marquis nights.  His lack of play has been highlighted the past few games because Paul hasn't played well the past few games.  I'm more concerned about him than sleepy Marguis.

[moiso]

Minor injuries have to be a huge conscern with Daniels and Jermaine.  Small things that don't seem to hinder other players can render these two players useless.  Neither will ever get confused with Brett Favre...or Paul Pierce.

I'd say it will be a big blow to the team if either one of these guys has a hangnail when the playoffs roll around.

[clover]

Minor injuries have to be a huge conscern with Daniels and Jermaine.  Small things that don't seem to hinder other players can render these two players useless.  Neither will ever get confused with Brett Favre...or Paul Pierce.

I'd say it will be a big blow to the team if either one of these guys has a hangnail when the playoffs roll around.

It's not that Delonte isn't tough, but he's in that way similar.  Even before his wrist his back was making him iffy from training camp on.

[moiso]

Minor injuries have to be a huge conscern with Daniels and Jermaine.  Small things that don't seem to hinder other players can render these two players useless.  Neither will ever get confused with Brett Favre...or Paul Pierce.

I'd say it will be a big blow to the team if either one of these guys has a hangnail when the playoffs roll around.

It's not that Delonte isn't tough, but he's in that way similar.  Even before his wrist his back was making him iffy from training camp on.

Delonte is a big injury concern as well, but the difference is that once Delonte steps on the court it's impossible to tell that he is hurting at all.  The other two become pretty bad players when they are hurting.

[CoachBo]

C's have to upgrade. He doesn't cut especially not for a contender. He is severely undersized @ the 3. Has very limited range. When he is on the floor, he handicaps the team offensively. Marquis is also a terrible rebounder, and brings Zero intangibles. He is a decent 2nd wing off the bench, not the 1st

Here is a list of his direct competition:

Miami:           Mike Miller>Marquis Daniels
Los Angeles:     Matt Barnes>Marquis Daniels
Orlando:         Mickael Pietrus>Marquis Daniels
Dallas:          Shawn Marion>Marquis Daniels
Chicago:         Ronnie Brewer>Marquis Daneils

Extreme Scenario: Pierce suspended for a Game. Do you trust Marquis Daniels to preform?

out of that bunch, I'd still take Quisy.

Miller's hurt, Barnes doesn't have the offensive skills, Pietrus doesn't have the offensive skills but I could live with him instead of Quisy, Marion isn't the player he once was and can't play SG and Ronnie Brewer isn't as good on either end of the floor.

Quisy's effectiveness depends on getting the ball where he can do something with it.  most of the time, Nate hasn't been doing that.

I totally disagree with the OP, who conveniently omits Daniels' defense. Not a Posey 2008, but close enough.

I like Daniels fit into the skillset of this bench, and I have no particular issue with him. Scoring is the least of my concerns from him.