Not Buying Marquis Daniels

[Meadowlark_Scal]

MD gives 20-60% effort, that is why they let him go...he has the ability to be a better player, but he doesn't want it. Ever see him dunk...no, why, no fire.....He's a "This is good enough" type player. Should have kept TA, he had more fire and desire, way more upsides than MD ever will, and how to prove that, well TA played more than MD when he was here...doc's decision, so, ask doc who was better..!

[snively]

His defense has been excellent, better than I expected.  Offensively, he's been pretty weak, not making many mistakes, but converting shots at mediocre %s without much volume.

With Nate getting hot, and Baby starting out the season hot, his offense has been pretty easy to hide.  And with Nate so vulnerable defensively (and Wafer weak there as well), his D has been indispensable.

Still would rather have TA in that spot (I hate Chris Wallace: TA's a total waste on that Memphis roster) for his superior defensive impact, but Quis is doing a solid job.

[2short]

Marquis can give us minutes at 3 posistions.  The other night it was him who did the nice job defending Devin Harris.  He doesn't make a lot of turnovers, runs the lanes and makes cuts correctly so even if he doesn't get the ball a man must mark him opening up space for someone else (read that miami) and he is a good defender.  Daniels plays within the system, if anything he should shoot a bit more but I am loving this years team using all the shot clock to get best shot.
I don't dislike tony allen but for all his flash and "potential" I would much rather have Marquis.

[manl_lui]

personally i think daniels is a good defender, ok on offense. He can occasionally cut to the basket...

[jarufu]

I like watching Marquis play. I think his laid back style and appearance belies the fact that he's a good (just not great) basketball player.  He plays within himself and seems to know his own game. 

I do, however, agree that he doesn't bring the spacing that you would like for a swingman .. at least in this C's teams' rotations ..

[2short]

I like watching Marquis play. I think his laid back style and appearance belies the fact that he's a good (just not great) basketball player.  He plays within himself and seems to know his own game. 

I do, however, agree that he doesn't bring the spacing that you would like for a swingman .. at least in this C's teams' rotations ..

I do agree with the spacing issues but at the same time he does create matchup issues for sg he can post up.  He seems to have enough foot speed to guard sg and can guard all sf except the physically imposing (lebron)
He is kind of like Posey who was sf/pf he could do some things at each posistion but at the same time create matchup issues for the other coach.
I still keep my little fingers crossed that shane battier is coming to town as our backup sf. 

[Meadowlark_Scal]

Shane Battier...yow, that kid shut kobe down big time the few times i did see him play...he is strong and has skills, how did he come up.....that he might end up here....Did we ever trade with Houston.....Back to MD..well, i don't really see him helping much, i wish he would....but he doesn't have the heart for it. He'd rather get another tattoo, than dunk on someone. His shot has faded...his defense, well, doc will show us his approval rating by how much he plays, even with our depleted force. AND what is wrong with JO now......?

[LooseCannon]

It's ridiculous if you're using number of dunks as a measure of heart.

[Meadowlark_Scal]

What is ridiculous is that he rarely finishes his Lame-ups, and if he dunked.....he would show some fire and finish with authority.

[2short]

What is ridiculous is that he rarely finishes his Lame-ups, and if he dunked.....he would show some fire and finish with authority.

It's ridiculous if you're using number of dunks as a measure of heart.

Robert Parish, Kevin McHale and Larry Bird aka the "other big three" didn't dunk much and they were 6'9" and up.  I love Perk but its a big issue that he needs to "finish with authority" he gets himself all geared up and powers it up into defense.  Parish and McHale would simply put the ball up off backbd, walton to for that matter, so I am fine with marquis getting the shot up.

[2short]

oh yeah, if bradley is going to play with delonte out it should be marquis doing the ball handling unless rondo is in (what a defensive backcourt they will make in the future)

[Meadowlark_Scal]

What is ridiculous is that he rarely finishes his Lame-ups, and if he dunked.....he would show some fire and finish with authority.

It's ridiculous if you're using number of dunks as a measure of heart.

Robert Parish, Kevin McHale and Larry Bird aka the "other big three" didn't dunk much and they were 6'9" and up.  I love Perk but its a big issue that he needs to "finish with authority" he gets himself all geared up and powers it up into defense.  Parish and McHale would simply put the ball up off backbd, walton to for that matter, so I am fine with marquis getting the shot up.

Sure, why..I heard everyone compare MD with the original big three.....yaaaa, surely..!
Your idea of fire, desire and intesity and mine just aren't near each other. One reason why we remember our big three was there intense desire to get it done....you won't be remembering md with his current level of input. Or maybe YOU will, but i won't.

[BballTim]

What is ridiculous is that he rarely finishes his Lame-ups, and if he dunked.....he would show some fire and finish with authority.

It's ridiculous if you're using number of dunks as a measure of heart.

Robert Parish, Kevin McHale and Larry Bird aka the "other big three" didn't dunk much and they were 6'9" and up.  I love Perk but its a big issue that he needs to "finish with authority" he gets himself all geared up and powers it up into defense.  Parish and McHale would simply put the ball up off backbd, walton to for that matter, so I am fine with marquis getting the shot up.

Sure, why..I heard everyone compare MD with the original big three.....yaaaa, surely..!
Your idea of fire, desire and intesity and mine just aren't near each other. One reason why we remember our big three was there intense desire to get it done....you won't be remembering md with his current level of input. Or maybe YOU will, but i won't.

  There were, in fact, people who felt that Parish wasn't that intense because of his demeanor.

[2short]

What is ridiculous is that he rarely finishes his Lame-ups, and if he dunked.....he would show some fire and finish with authority.

It's ridiculous if you're using number of dunks as a measure of heart.

Robert Parish, Kevin McHale and Larry Bird aka the "other big three" didn't dunk much and they were 6'9" and up.  I love Perk but its a big issue that he needs to "finish with authority" he gets himself all geared up and powers it up into defense.  Parish and McHale would simply put the ball up off backbd, walton to for that matter, so I am fine with marquis getting the shot up.

Sure, why..I heard everyone compare MD with the original big three.....yaaaa, surely..!
Your idea of fire, desire and intesity and mine just aren't near each other. One reason why we remember our big three was there intense desire to get it done....you won't be remembering md with his current level of input. Or maybe YOU will, but i won't.

  There were, in fact, people who felt that Parish wasn't that intense because of his demeanor.

Yep and part of the reason we were able to get him 

[Redz]

How `bout now?