Official Discuss your CB Draft team

[riah32]

[dang]

[nickagneta]

The final piece of the puzzle is in place. Finally I can stay I have a championship team after today's picks.

Championship team?

Is that what they are calling teams in third place in the SouthEast Division nowadays?

<just kidding><friendly banter>

Actully I'm proud of the SE Division. We could have possibly 3-4 playoff teams.

[Who]

unless anymore trades happen which i am still open to.
the LA Lakers will end up looking like this:

PG Curry/Augustin/Dooling
SG Roy/Richardson
SF Prince/Green/McGrady
PF Beasley/Harrington/Gooden
C  Chandler/Andersen

I would love to see this team acquire another big man with defensive quality. Your interior defense is going to be vulnerable whenever Tyson Chandler is on the bench.

If you could trade Drew Gooden for a solid defensive center, or couple him with Al Harrington for a solid defensive four (to play alongside Andersen) ... that would be great.

You have a lot of offensive quality on your team. You'll be able to get by with a limited (offensive) big man. Just so long as he supplies the defense your team needs.

[Roy H.]

unless anymore trades happen which i am still open to.
the LA Lakers will end up looking like this:

PG Curry/Augustin/Dooling
SG Roy/Richardson
SF Prince/Green/McGrady
PF Beasley/Harrington/Gooden
C  Chandler/Andersen

I think that this is a team stuck halfway between "team of the future" and "win now".  I guess Portland has shown that young teams can make the playoffs, but I think your team is in a bit of a no man's land.

Of course, part of my analysis is due to the fact that I'm not a huge fan of anyone in your big man rotation.  I think a back court of Curry / Roy could probably be okay, but I think they need more traditional bigs alongside them.

[Who]

Head Coach: J. Van Gundy

PG: Tony Parker, Ramon Sessions
SG: O.J. Mayo, Aron Afflalo
SF: Danny Granger, Austin Daye
PF: Boris Diaw, J.J. Hickson, Jonas Jerebko
C:  Sam Dalembert, Zaza Pachulia, Dan Gadzuric

In Europe: Nick Calathes

I was a big fan of the roster you created after acquiring Boris Diaw. I think Diaw and Dalembert give you a strong defensive backbone and JJ Hickson is a solid first big off the bench. You also have terrific options behind them in Jonas Jerebko and Dan Gadzuric. Players who provide depth and contrasting skill-sets to best suit the occasion.

I also thought Diaw did a great job tying your team's offense together. You had two great shot-creators in Danny Granger and Tony Parker and but little else from a creative standpoint. Getting a power forward like Diaw -- another strong ball-handler, a wonderful passer who gets all of his teammates involved, an excellent two point jump shooter, excellent in transition -- would have a large impact on your offense. That made more limited offensive players like Arron Afflalo and Sam Dalembert more effective.

I liked the Austin Daye pickup too. A nice prospect going forward.

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The OJ Mayo addition. A tad disappointed I suppose. I loved what Afflalo brought to the table as your starting two guard. Both Parker and Granger are mediocre defenders and I liked seeing your squad have a quality perimeter defender out there in Afflalo to go with Diaw and Dalembert. I also liked how he fitted in offensively for your squad. So disappointed to lose that valuable role player. I don't like Afflalo and OJ Mayo playing together on the wing due to their limited size and rebounding. I think your team will be overly vulnerable there so Afflalo's minutes are now restricted to backing up Mayo (10-12mpg) versus the starter's minutes he was in line to get.

Back to Mayo, I'm not a fan of him as a two guard. He is a poor defender, a below average rebounder and brings little playmaking to the table. He is a solid scorer, a third option type. With two high usage perimeter players on the lineup already with Granger and Parker, I'm not wild about the fit. I think there will be some diminishing returns there. I also think Boris Diaw will see less touches resulting in more diminishing returns there also.

OJ Mayo will improve your offense but he'll also hurt your defense significantly. I only see him as a marginal upgrade to Afflalo.

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I like the idea of OJ Mayo taking a Ben Gordon like role. A combo guard and microwave scorer off the bench.

Then again, it would be a shame to lose Ramon Sessions. He will be one of the more effective backup point guards in the league now that he is away from that Triangle offense. Sessions was one of those low picks who brought a huge amount of value to the table. So to see him dropped to third string hurts.

Still, I think it's the best deployment of your current players.

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I would look into trading OJ Mayo in combination with either Boris Diaw or Sam Dalembert for an upgrade to one of your big man positions. I don't know what the market is like but there might be some interesting opportunities out there. OJ Mayo has a lot of admirers.

[Who]

PG: Jason Terry, Ty Lawson
SG: Joe Johnson, Mike Dunleavy, Roger Mason
SF: Andrei Kirilenko, Vince Carter (or vice versa by matchup)
PF: LaMarcus Aldridge, Amir Johnson, Josh McRoberts
C: Andris Biedrins, Nikola Pekovic, Cole Aldrich

I love several things about this roster

• The Joe Johnson and Vince Carter combination. Two wings who can score, handle the ball and pass. They give you a lot of different options.
• The overall versatility of your players and the lineup flexibility that creates. Especially Andrei Kirilenko (SF/PF) and LaMarcus Aldridge (PF/C).
• The Joe Johnson + John Terry combination
• The bench -- Ty Lawson + Mike Dunleavy + Amir Johnson + Cole Aldrich + Nikola Pekovic + Roger Mason Jr and good old Josh McRoberts + one of Kirilenko/Carter -- that has to be one of the most, if not the most, talented bench in the league.
• The John Terry + Ty Lawson combination at the point. Two highly efficient players who bring a great contrast in skills to the table. Lawson's quickness and playmaking vs Terry's scoring and setup guard play. Lawson's energy and ability to push the tempo is a great game changer to be able to call off the bench.
• The shooting ability -- Joe Johnson, Jason Terry, Vince Carter, Ty Lawson, Mike Dunleavy, Roger Mason Jr + LaMarcus Aldridge -- great floor spacing.
• The athleticism of the team -- a lot of size, length and quickness.

That said, there is one area of this team that ruins it for me and that is Andris Biedrins. I liked what you were trying to here but I disagree with the evaluation of Biedrins.

I consider Biedrins to be a very poor defensive center + a finesse player who cannot physical play from his opponents (PFs like Boozer to Cs like D.Howard) + a very soft player. His lack of defensive talent and physicality makes your starting lineup overly vulnerable.

You do have a nice option in Cole Aldrich though. A stronger (physically) player, a solid defender and very good rebounder. He has a lot of length and shot-blocking. And a decent offensive game. I think starting him gives your squad the best chance of winning. He'll improve your defense, give you toughness.

As for your backup bigs, I think Biedrins and Amir are quite comparable. Amir does a better job in transition D and pick and roll defense but otherwise very similar. I consider Biedrins to be a better defensive player at the four but he still struggles with some of the more physical players at that position (so does Amir though). Pekovic brings more muscle and offensive ability to the table but his team defense figures to be a major problem. So no firm rotation choice here, a revolving rotation depending on the matchups.

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Back to Aldridge, there was some talk about him moving to the center position for some lineups.

Aldridge does well there in terms of his offensive game + his man-to-man defense. His team defense is poor at both big man positions due to his poor recognition of what is happening of the floor + as a result his slow defensive rotations.

Andrei Kirilenko, though, is an excellent team defender. So he can cover up Aldridge's flaws in that area and make that combination work defensively + offensively. Those two are a very good choice.

I would be playing a Kirilenko + Aldridge tandem as much as I would play Aldridge + Aldrich together. I would have Aldridge and Aldrich play 48 minutes of the available time at center with Aldridge + Kirilenko + Amir/Biedrins taking the power forward minutes. When Aldridge is resting I would use Amir or Biedrins alongside Aldrich ... if you want to free up Kirilenko to play some small forward.

[Gainesville Celtic]

I think there's pretty wide agreement that there are no perfect teams out there.  Every single contender has noticeable flaws. 

This year, it's really going to come down to playoff matchups in the voting, at least as far as I'm concerned.

yup... agreed. Well outside of Denver of course 

I have to commend the commishes again on the decision to do the modified snake draft --- i think i more evenly distributed the talent (even though it might have led to a bit less trading).

[ChampKind]

PG: Jason Terry, Ty Lawson
SG: Joe Johnson, Mike Dunleavy, Roger Mason
SF: Andrei Kirilenko, Vince Carter (or vice versa by matchup)
PF: LaMarcus Aldridge, Amir Johnson, Josh McRoberts
C: Andris Biedrins, Nikola Pekovic, Cole Aldrich

I love several things about this roster

• The Joe Johnson and Vince Carter combination. Two wings who can score, handle the ball and pass. They give you a lot of different options.
• The overall versatility of your players and the lineup flexibility that creates. Especially Andrei Kirilenko (SF/PF) and LaMarcus Aldridge (PF/C).
• The Joe Johnson + John Terry combination
• The bench -- Ty Lawson + Mike Dunleavy + Amir Johnson + Cole Aldrich + Nikola Pekovic + Roger Mason Jr and good old Josh McRoberts + one of Kirilenko/Carter -- that has to be one of the most, if not the most, talented bench in the league.
• The John Terry + Ty Lawson combination at the point. Two highly efficient players who bring a great contrast in skills to the table. Lawson's quickness and playmaking vs Terry's scoring and setup guard play. Lawson's energy and ability to push the tempo is a great game changer to be able to call off the bench.
• The shooting ability -- Joe Johnson, Jason Terry, Vince Carter, Ty Lawson, Mike Dunleavy, Roger Mason Jr + LaMarcus Aldridge -- great floor spacing.
• The athleticism of the team -- a lot of size, length and quickness.

That said, there is one area of this team that ruins it for me and that is Andris Biedrins. I liked what you were trying to here but I disagree with the evaluation of Biedrins.

I consider Biedrins to be a very poor defensive center + a finesse player who cannot physical play from his opponents (PFs like Boozer to Cs like D.Howard) + a very soft player. His lack of defensive talent and physicality makes your starting lineup overly vulnerable.

You do have a nice option in Cole Aldrich though. A stronger (physically) player, a solid defender and very good rebounder. He has a lot of length and shot-blocking. And a decent offensive game. I think starting him gives your squad the best chance of winning. He'll improve your defense, give you toughness.

As for your backup bigs, I think Biedrins and Amir are quite comparable. Amir does a better job in transition D and pick and roll defense but otherwise very similar. I consider Biedrins to be a better defensive player at the four but he still struggles with some of the more physical players at that position (so does Amir though). Pekovic brings more muscle and offensive ability to the table but his team defense figures to be a major problem. So no firm rotation choice here, a revolving rotation depending on the matchups.

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Back to Aldridge, there was some talk about him moving to the center position for some lineups.

Aldridge does well there in terms of his offensive game + his man-to-man defense. His team defense is poor at both big man positions due to his poor recognition of what is happening of the floor + as a result his slow defensive rotations.

Andrei Kirilenko, though, is an excellent team defender. So he can cover up Aldridge's flaws in that area and make that combination work defensively + offensively. Those two are a very good choice.

I would be playing a Kirilenko + Aldridge tandem as much as I would play Aldridge + Aldrich together. I would have Aldridge and Aldrich play 48 minutes of the available time at center with Aldridge + Kirilenko + Amir/Biedrins taking the power forward minutes. When Aldridge is resting I would use Amir or Biedrins alongside Aldrich ... if you want to free up Kirilenko to play some small forward.

Who, you are the man and I respect your opinion and the way you stated it in a way beyond comprehension. Thanks for the in depth analysis. I can only hope that others have a similar view of my squad. Thanks again and TP!

That said, I differ slightly on the view of Biedrins - he's shown that he can be a very effective rebounder and a decent 4th-5th option without clogging up the paint on an uptempo team. His ability to play well in Nellieball bodes well for his use here, scooping up rebounds, making outlet passes, and serving as an emergency valve if the other 4 options can't create.

EDIT: Although, that said, I would absolutely consider playing Aldrich over Biedrins for his defensive play against big time 5s in the league. You make a solid point there, but I'm not sure how other teams would view starting a rookie at C on a potential playoff squad. Interesting decision, though.

[KCattheStripe]

The final piece of the puzzle is in place. Finally I can stay I have a championship team after today's picks.

Championship team?

Is that what they are calling teams in third place in the SouthEast Division nowadays?

<just kidding><friendly banter>

Actully I'm proud of the SE Division. We could have possibly 3-4 playoff teams.

As the inevitable winner of the southeast division, I concur with Nick's assessment.

[Gomesfan]

The Cleveland Cavs

The BEST team in the Central Division!!


PG: Mike Conley Jr./TJ Ford/Monta Ellis
SG: Monta Ellis/Eddie House/Antoine Wright
SF: Carmelo Anthony/Peja Stojakovic/James Posey
PF: Troy Murphy/Jason Thompson/Joel Pryzbila
C : Shaq O'Neil/Joel Pryzbila/Jason Thompson

This is the squad so far. I need one spot to fill out the roster and I have some possible trades in the works!

[Lucky17]

Thanks for the commentary, Who. TP.

Nice to hear someone else articulating and reinforcing some of my own thoughts and concerns, while also providing some fresh perspective.

[KCattheStripe]

I think there's pretty wide agreement that there are no perfect teams out there.  Every single contender has noticeable flaws. 

This year, it's really going to come down to playoff matchups in the voting, at least as far as I'm concerned.

yup... agreed. Well outside of Denver of course 

I have to commend the commishes again on the decision to do the modified snake draft --- i think i more evenly distributed the talent (even though it might have led to a bit less trading).

There was less trading? I didn't notice.

[Donoghus]

I think there's pretty wide agreement that there are no perfect teams out there.  Every single contender has noticeable flaws. 

This year, it's really going to come down to playoff matchups in the voting, at least as far as I'm concerned.

yup... agreed. Well outside of Denver of course 

I have to commend the commishes again on the decision to do the modified snake draft --- i think i more evenly distributed the talent (even though it might have led to a bit less trading).

There was less trading? I didn't notice.

Well, here are last year's trades.  I'm not counting but I'd be hard-pressed to think there was more.

* * * Trades * * *

July 13th

Toronto sends: 1st rounder (3) and 4th rounder (28)
New Orleans sends: 1st rounder (26), 2nd rounder (5), 4th rounder (5), and 5th rounder (26)

Portland sends: 1st rounder (16) and 10th rounder (17)
Toronto sends: 2nd rounder (5), 4th rounder (5), 5th rounder (3), and 7th rounder (3)

Denver sends: 2nd rounder (4)
Toronto sends: 2nd rounder (28) and 3rd rounder (3)

Orlando sends: 9th rounder (1)
Chicago sends: 10th rounder (11), 12th rounder (11), 13th rounder (19), 14th rounder (11), and 15th rounder (19)

Toronto sends: 1st rounder (16), 6th rounder (28), and 10th rounder (28)
San Antonio sends: 1st rounder (25) and 3rd rounder (25)

Philadelphia sends: 8th rounder (26)
Toronto sends: 10th rounder (17), 11th rounder (3), 12th rounder (28), 13th rounder (3), 14th rounder (28), and 15th rounder (3)

Miami sends: 8th rounder (10) and 14th rounder (10)
Chicago sends: 9th rounder (19) and 11th rounder (19)

Toronto sends: 1st rounder (26) and 9th rounder (3)
Utah sends: 2nd rounder (49) and 3rd rounder (12)

July 14th

Las Vegas sends: 2nd rounder (1) and 6th rounder (1)
Houston sends: 3rd rounder (11), 4th rounder (20), and 7th rounder (11)

Denver sends: 5th rounder (27), 10th rounder (4) 11th rounder (27), 13th rounder (27), 14th rounder (4), and 15th rounder (27)
Washington sends: 6th rounder (3), 8th rounder (3), and 10th rounder (3)

Toronto sends: 2nd rounder (19) and 8th rounder (27)
Washington sends: 3rd rounder (28), 5th rounder (27), and 5th rounder (28)

Orlando sends: 14th rounder (12) and 15th rounder (19)
Philadelphia sends: 14th rounder (27) and 14th rounder (28)

Sacramento sends: 1st rounder (10), 2nd rounder (21), and 4th rounder (21)
Seattle sends: 1st rounder (15), 2nd rounder (16), and 4th rounder (16)

Bulls sends: 4th rounder (12), 6th rounder (12) and 14th rounder (10)

Heat sends: 3rd rounder (21), 7th rounder (21), 11th rounder (21), & 12th rounder (10)

July 15th

Dallas sends: 8th rounder (38)
Philly sends: 9th rounder (4), 10th rounder (17), 12th rounder (27)

CHI sends: 3rd rounder (21), 5th rounder (19),  and 12th rounder (10)
ORL sends:  3rd rounder (1), 7th rounder (1), 11th rounder (1), 12th rounder (12), and 15th rounder (1) and 10 TPs

DAL sends: 10th rounder (, and 11th rounder (23)
SEA sends: 9th rounder(15), and 14th rounder (15)

BUF sends: 14th rounder (29)
ORL sends: 14th rounder (30) and 10 TPs.

Sacramento sends: 2nd rounder (16), 4th rounder (16), 5th rounder(10), 6th rounder(21)
Suns send: 1st rounder (17), 7th rounder(17)

ORL sends 2nd rounder (30), 3rd rounder (21), 5th rounder (1), 6th rounder (30), 10th rounder (30), 12th rounder (10)
MIA sends 2nd rounder (10), 4th rounder (10,) 4th rounder (12), 10th rounder (10), 13th rounder (21)

July 16th

Raptors send: 3rd rounder (12), 8th rounder (28), 9th rounder (3)
Spurs send: 4th rounder (6), 6th rounder (28), 10th rounder (6)

ORL sends: 2nd rounder (10), 4th rounder (30), 5th rounder (19), 10th rounder (10), 10th rounder (12)
ORL gets: 2nd rounder (19), 4th rounder(3), 6th rounder (14), 8th rounder (27), 10th rounder (4), 12th roundre (4)

WAS sends: 2nd rounder (19), 4th rounder (3), 7th rounder(28), 8th rounder (27), 10th rounder (4), 12th rounder (4)
WAS gets: 2nd rounder (10), 4th rounder (30), 6th rounder (21), 10th rounder (10), 12th rounder (14)

PHO sends: 6th rounder (14), 6th rounder (21), 12th rounder (14)
PHO gets: 5th rounder (19), 7th rounder (28), and 10th rounder (12)

July 17th

TOR sends: 3rd rounder (12)
POR sends: 5th rounder (3), 5th rounder (16)

Suns send: 7th rounder (28), 8th rounder (14), 10th rounder(12)
Bulls send: 7th rounder(1)

Toronto sends: 2nd rounder (4), 3rd rounder (25), 5th  (28)
Indiana sends: 1st rounder (18), 4th rounder (12), 6th rounder  (12)

Portland sends 12.15
Washington sends 13.27 and 13.28

Bulls trade: 1st rounder (19), 2nd rounder (12), 11th rounder (1), 11th rounder (21) and 12th rounder (12)
Memphis trades: 1st rounder (9), 3rd rounder (9), 7th rounder (9) and 13th rounder (9)

Bulls trade: 3rd rounder (9), 3rd rounder (19), and 7th rounder (9)
Mavs trade: 1st rounder (23) and 9th rounder (4)

Toronto Sends: 1st rounder ( 25), 5th rounder (16)
Indiana Sends: 2nd rounder (13), 3rd rounder (18), 5th rounder (28)

Bulls trade 1st (23rd overall)
Charlotte trades 2nd (11), 3rd (20) & 5th(20)

July 19th

Boston trades:  2nd rounder (25) and 9th rounder (6)
Chicago trades: 3rd rounder  (1), 7the rounder (28)

Detroit sends: 1st rounder (7), 3rd rounder  (7), 5th rounder (7), 6th rounder (24), 8th rounder (24)
Toronto sends: 1st rounder (18), 2nd rounder (13), 4th rounder (12)

Boxers send: 4th rounder (30) 14th rounder (3) and 14th rounder (4)
Grizzlies send: 5th rounder (9), 11th rounder (1), 11th rounder (9), 11th rounder (21)

Boxers send: 5th rounder (9), 15th rounder (27) and 15th rounder(28)
Bobcats send: 6th rounder (11), 7th rounder (20), and 11th rounder (20)

Heat trade: 1st rounder 21, 5th rounder (1), 6th rounder (30)
Bulls trade: 2nd rounder (11), 3rd rounder (20), 5th rounder (20) and 8th rounder (12)

Philly trades: 6th rounder (27), 12th rounder (28) and 14th rounder (12)
Chicago trades: 7th rounder (21), 8th rounder (14), 13th rounder (9), 15th rounder (1)

CHA trades: 4th rounder (11), 5th rounder  (9) and 8th rounder (11)
POR trades: 3rd rounder  (12) and 9th rounder (16)

Philadelphia sends: 11t h rounder (3), 11th rounder (4)
Washington Sends: 10th rounder (10), 12th rounder (14), 12th rounder (15)

Philadelphia sends: 1st rounder (4), 4th rounder (27), 7th rounder (4), 8th rounder (, 15th rounder (3)
Chicago sends: 1st rounder (9), 2nd rounder (25), 12th rounder (28)

July 20th

Bulls trade:1st rounder (21), 4th rounder (27), 5th rounder (1)
Heat trade: 2nd rounder (11), 2nd rounder (30), 3rd rounder (20), 5th rounder (20), 6th rounder (12)

Bulls trade: 2nd rounder (11) and 3rd rounder (20 )
Kings trade: 1st rounder (17)

Spurs send: 2nd rounder (6), 4th rounder (6)
Warriors send: 1st rounder (24)

Bulls trade: 2nd rounder (30), 5th rounder (20), 6th rounder (12), 6nd rounder (27), 6th rounder (30) and 7th rounder (19)
Spurs trade: 1st rounder (24)

Detroit: 2th rounder (13), 9th rounder (7)
Toronto: 3rd rounder (7), 5th rounder (3), 6th rounder (13), 8th rounder (24)

Boxers send: 6th rounder (11),  6th rounder (21)
Nets send: 5th rounder (22), 7th rounder (22)

July 21st

Boxers send 2(10) 5(22)
Suns send 2(16) 5(19) 11(17)

Boxers send 2(16) and 5(19)
Braves send 2(29) and 4(29)

Spurs send: 2(30) 6(27)
Rockets send: 2(20)

Spurs send:  2nd rounder(20), 5th rounder(25), 6th rounder(12)
Blazers send: 2nd rounder(15), 6th rounder(15), 7th rounder(16)

Timberwolves send: 3rd rounder (14), 5th rounder (14) and 7th rounder (14)
Nuggets send: 2nd rounder (28)

Philly trades:  2nd rounder (27), 12th rounder (28), 15th rounder (1)
Sacromento trades: 3rd rounder (10), 7th rounder (10), 7th rounder (17)

Suns Send: Al Horford, 3(17), 5(22)
Bulls Send: Al Jefferson, 8(10), 9(1)

July 22nd

Denver sends:  8th rounder (3), 8th rounder (4),  10th rounder (4) and a 12th rounder (4)
Bucks sends: 5th rounder (5)

Chicago sends: 3rd rounder (17) and 5th rounder (22)
Detroit sends: 4th rounder (13) ,4th rounder (29), and 6th rounder (13)

Bulls trade: 4.13, 6.13 and 8.8
Kings trade: 3.20 and 9.10

CHI trades: the rights to Marc Gasol, 4th rounder (29), and 14th rounder (12)
ORL trades 4th rounder (3), 4th rounder (10), and 10th rounder (4)

Spurs send: 5th rounder(20), 6th rounder(27), 6th rounder(28), 7th rounder(25)
Cavaliers send: 3rd rounder(29)

ORL sends 4.29, 6.14, 8.27, 8.30, 5 TPs
MIA sends 4.27, 5.1, 9.19

Suns Send:  Ron Artest
Toronto Sends: Josh Howard, 5th rounder(7), 6th rounder (24)

July 23rd

Toronto Sends: 5th rounder (26)
Phildelphia sends: 7th rounder (14), 7th rounder (21)

Spurs send: 6th rounder(15) and 8th rounder(6)
Sixers send: 5th rounder(24) and 10th rounder(27)

Bulls trade: 4th rounder (10), 9th rounder (10) 
Heat trade: 4th rounder (29), 5th rounder (21), 14th rounder (10)

Bulls trade: 7th rounder (4), 10th rounder (4), 10th rounder (12) and 15th rounder (3)
Wolves trade: 6th rounder (17) and 12th rounder (14)

ORL trades:  4th rounder (27) and 12th rounder (30)
SAS trades: 6th rounder (6), 7th rounder (15), and 7th rounder (19)

Suns Send: 4th rounder (16), 6th rounder (24), 10th rounder (14), 10TP's
Las Vegas Sends: 4th rounder (20), 5th rounder (30), 8th rounder (1)

GS sends: 10th rounder (6)
DAL sends: 12th rounder (, 12th rounder (27), 14th rounder (

Suns Trade: 5th rounder (7), 5th rounder (10)
Bulls Trade: 4th rounder(29), 6th rounder(17)

ORL sends: Emeka Okafor, 7th rounder (19), 9th rounder (19)
PHI sends: Jason Richardson, 7th rounder (10), 8th rounder (14)

July 25th

Boston sends: 6.26, 7.28, 10.26 and 10 Tp's
Golden St sends: 5.24

ORL sends:  8th rounder(14)
DAL sends:  9th rounder(23), 10th rounder(6), 10th rounder (15)

July 26th

Toronto Sends: Gilbert Arenas, 7th rounder (17)
Charlotte sends: Andre Miller, 9th rounder (16)

Portland trades: 13th rounder (16), 13th rounder  (27), 13th rounder (28), 15th rounder (16)
Miami trades:  11th rounder (19)

July 27th

ORL sends: 13th rounder (19), 14th rounder (12), 3 TPs
NJN sends: 13th rounder (22), 14th rounder (9)

Bulls trade: 9th rounder (4) and 9th rounder (6)
Kings trade: 8th rounder (21), 10th rounder (21), and 11th rounder (10)

Spurs send: Luis Scola, 12th rounder (6)
Bulls send: Tayshaun Prince, 11th rounder (14)

Twolves send: 7th rounder (4) and 10th rounder (12)
Rockets send: 6th rounder (27)

DAL sends : 7th rounder (23), 8th rounder(14)
GS sends: 6th rounder (25)

POR trades:  Spencer Hawes, 8th rounder (11), 11th rounder (16)
MIA trades:  Shaquille O’Neal, 8(30), 12th rounder (10).

Orlando trades 7.16
Miami trades 8.11, 10.30 and 13.16

Denver trades: 7(14)  {Darko}
Phoenix trades: 8 (10) and 9 (17)

Seattle sends: 10th rounder (16), 11th rounder (15), and 11th rounder (23)
Toronto sends: 9th rounder (16)

Boxers send :9th rounder (28), 11th rounder (20), 11th rounder (21)
Boxers: receive 8th rounder (1)
Las Vegas send: 7th rounder (30)
Las Vegas receives: 9th rounder (28), 11th rounder (20), 11th rounder (21), 14th rounder (14)
Suns send: 8th rounder (1),  14th rounder (14)
Suns receives:  7th rounder (30)

Braves send: Andrei Kirilienko and 12th rounder(29)
Spurs send: Al Thornton.

Seattle sends: 8th rounder (16)
Milwaukee sends:  8th rounder (25) and 9th rounder(5)

July 28th

POR trades: the rights to Marco Bellinelli
TOR trades: 8(28), 11(15)

Suns Send: Ramon Sessions, James Harden, Marresse Speights, 13th rounder (17)
Heat send: Rajon Rondo, 9th rounder (21)

POR trades: 8(30), 15(6)
MIN trades: 9(14), 10(4)

Philly sends: 15.4
Portland sends: 10 TPs

Spurs send: O.J Mayo, 10th rounder (27), 10th rounder (28)
Pistons send: Richard Hamilton, Matt Barnes, Jarrett Jack

ORL trades 9.23, 10.30, and 5 TPs
SAC trades 9.6 and 12.21

Detroit: Gerald Wallace
Chicago: Rudy Fernandez, Wilson Chandler, 10th rounder (21)

POR trades: 10(4), 11(19)
PHO trades: 9(21)

Bulls trade 14th rounder (10) and 5 TP's
Kings trade 13th rounder (10)

Bulls trade 14th rounder (10) and 5 TP's
Kings trade 13th rounder (10)

Suns Trade: 10th rounder (4), 11th rounder (19)
Flamingos Trade: 9th rounder (30), 11th rounder (30) 10 TP's

July 29th

Buffalo trades 11.2
Washington trades: 11.4 and 10 tps

Phoenix Gets: Kosta Koufos, 12.7,12.8,12.27,13.24,14.7,15.24
Golden State Gets: Chuck Hayes and 11.30

Seattle sends Hasheem Thabeet, 13th rounder (16th) and 10 TPs
Sacramento sends Kenyon Martin and 10 TPS

Kings send: Tyson Chandler, Hakim Warrick, Keith Bogans
Pistons send: Samuel Dalembert, Al Harrington, Sasha Vujacic

Boxers send: 11.17 and 10TPs
Heat send: Hilton Armstrong

Boxers send 11.27, 11.28
\CrotoNats send Aaron Gray and 15.4

Bulls trade: 12.6 and 13.10
Kings trade: Chase Budinger and 15.1

Flamingos trade: Josh McRoberts
Phoenix trades: 12( 8 ) and 14(7)

July 30th

Detroit: Mo Williams, Wilson Chandler, Rudy Fernandez, DJ White
Memphis: Rudy Gay, Mo Evans, JJ Barea

Spurs Trade:Jerry Stackhouse, 13(25), 15(25)
Celtics Trade:Matt Harpring

Celtics Send: Lamar Odom
Spurs Send: Tayshaun Prince, Jared Jeffries

Mavericks Send: Peja Stojakovic, EricK Dampier
T-Wolves Send: David Lee

Suns Trade:Joel Pryzbilla, Travis Outlaw, Darko Milicic, Tyronn Lue
Boxers Trade:Andres Biedrins, CJ Watson, Darrell Arthur

Bucks send 14(25) to Denver for cash considerations.
 

July 31st

Las Vegas sends: 14(7)
Phoenix Sends: 15(17)

Portland gets: 15(29)
Cleveland gets: 10 TPs (paid)

Philly send: 15.19
Denver sends 10TPs

Bucks send 14(25) to Denver for cash considerations

Boxers send: Kevin Martin, Austin Daye, Hilton Armstrong, Ryan Anderson and 15.4
Bulls send: Gerald Wallace, Luis Scola and George Hill

ORL sends Chris Wilcox, Etan Thomas, DeAndre Jordan
SAS sends Jeff Foster, Melvin Ely

Bulls trade 15.4
Suns trade 15.24 and 10 TP's

Toronto sends: Aaron Brooks
Las Vegas sends: Earl Watson, Anderson Varejao

Kings agree to trade Jason Willams
Bulls agree to trade Lester Hudson

SAC sends: Harrington, Dalembert, Jennings, Vujacic
DAL sends: Murphy, Blake

Aug 1st

NONE

Aug 2nd


Boxers send Anthony Carter and James Singleton
Mavericks send Julian Wright and Speedy Claxton

Boxers send Travis Outlaw and Raymond Felton
Heat send Ramon Sessions and Anthony Morrow

Aug 3rd

ORL sends Melvin Ely
VEGAS sends Sebastian Telfair

ORL sends Francisco Garcia
TOR sends Anderson Varejao, Aaron Afflalo, 10 TPs

Aug. 4th

Boxers send: Wally Szczerbiak, Johan Petro, and Aaron Gray 10TP's
Hawks send: Juwan Howard and Dan Gadzuric

[wdleehi]

I think there's pretty wide agreement that there are no perfect teams out there.  Every single contender has noticeable flaws. 

This year, it's really going to come down to playoff matchups in the voting, at least as far as I'm concerned.

yup... agreed. Well outside of Denver of course 

I have to commend the commishes again on the decision to do the modified snake draft --- i think i more evenly distributed the talent (even though it might have led to a bit less trading).

There was less trading? I didn't notice.

Well, here are last year's trades.  I'm not counting but I'd be hard-pressed to think there was more.

* * * Trades * * *

July 13th

Toronto sends: 1st rounder (3) and 4th rounder (28)
New Orleans sends: 1st rounder (26), 2nd rounder (5), 4th rounder (5), and 5th rounder (26)

Portland sends: 1st rounder (16) and 10th rounder (17)
Toronto sends: 2nd rounder (5), 4th rounder (5), 5th rounder (3), and 7th rounder (3)

Denver sends: 2nd rounder (4)
Toronto sends: 2nd rounder (28) and 3rd rounder (3)

Orlando sends: 9th rounder (1)
Chicago sends: 10th rounder (11), 12th rounder (11), 13th rounder (19), 14th rounder (11), and 15th rounder (19)

Toronto sends: 1st rounder (16), 6th rounder (28), and 10th rounder (28)
San Antonio sends: 1st rounder (25) and 3rd rounder (25)

Philadelphia sends: 8th rounder (26)
Toronto sends: 10th rounder (17), 11th rounder (3), 12th rounder (28), 13th rounder (3), 14th rounder (28), and 15th rounder (3)

Miami sends: 8th rounder (10) and 14th rounder (10)
Chicago sends: 9th rounder (19) and 11th rounder (19)

Toronto sends: 1st rounder (26) and 9th rounder (3)
Utah sends: 2nd rounder (49) and 3rd rounder (12)

July 14th

Las Vegas sends: 2nd rounder (1) and 6th rounder (1)
Houston sends: 3rd rounder (11), 4th rounder (20), and 7th rounder (11)

Denver sends: 5th rounder (27), 10th rounder (4) 11th rounder (27), 13th rounder (27), 14th rounder (4), and 15th rounder (27)
Washington sends: 6th rounder (3), 8th rounder (3), and 10th rounder (3)

Toronto sends: 2nd rounder (19) and 8th rounder (27)
Washington sends: 3rd rounder (28), 5th rounder (27), and 5th rounder (28)

Orlando sends: 14th rounder (12) and 15th rounder (19)
Philadelphia sends: 14th rounder (27) and 14th rounder (28)

Sacramento sends: 1st rounder (10), 2nd rounder (21), and 4th rounder (21)
Seattle sends: 1st rounder (15), 2nd rounder (16), and 4th rounder (16)

Bulls sends: 4th rounder (12), 6th rounder (12) and 14th rounder (10)

Heat sends: 3rd rounder (21), 7th rounder (21), 11th rounder (21), & 12th rounder (10)

July 15th

Dallas sends: 8th rounder (38)
Philly sends: 9th rounder (4), 10th rounder (17), 12th rounder (27)

CHI sends: 3rd rounder (21), 5th rounder (19),  and 12th rounder (10)
ORL sends:  3rd rounder (1), 7th rounder (1), 11th rounder (1), 12th rounder (12), and 15th rounder (1) and 10 TPs

DAL sends: 10th rounder (, and 11th rounder (23)
SEA sends: 9th rounder(15), and 14th rounder (15)

BUF sends: 14th rounder (29)
ORL sends: 14th rounder (30) and 10 TPs.

Sacramento sends: 2nd rounder (16), 4th rounder (16), 5th rounder(10), 6th rounder(21)
Suns send: 1st rounder (17), 7th rounder(17)

ORL sends 2nd rounder (30), 3rd rounder (21), 5th rounder (1), 6th rounder (30), 10th rounder (30), 12th rounder (10)
MIA sends 2nd rounder (10), 4th rounder (10,) 4th rounder (12), 10th rounder (10), 13th rounder (21)

July 16th

Raptors send: 3rd rounder (12), 8th rounder (28), 9th rounder (3)
Spurs send: 4th rounder (6), 6th rounder (28), 10th rounder (6)

ORL sends: 2nd rounder (10), 4th rounder (30), 5th rounder (19), 10th rounder (10), 10th rounder (12)
ORL gets: 2nd rounder (19), 4th rounder(3), 6th rounder (14), 8th rounder (27), 10th rounder (4), 12th roundre (4)

WAS sends: 2nd rounder (19), 4th rounder (3), 7th rounder(28), 8th rounder (27), 10th rounder (4), 12th rounder (4)
WAS gets: 2nd rounder (10), 4th rounder (30), 6th rounder (21), 10th rounder (10), 12th rounder (14)

PHO sends: 6th rounder (14), 6th rounder (21), 12th rounder (14)
PHO gets: 5th rounder (19), 7th rounder (28), and 10th rounder (12)

July 17th

TOR sends: 3rd rounder (12)
POR sends: 5th rounder (3), 5th rounder (16)

Suns send: 7th rounder (28), 8th rounder (14), 10th rounder(12)
Bulls send: 7th rounder(1)

Toronto sends: 2nd rounder (4), 3rd rounder (25), 5th  (28)
Indiana sends: 1st rounder (18), 4th rounder (12), 6th rounder  (12)

Portland sends 12.15
Washington sends 13.27 and 13.28

Bulls trade: 1st rounder (19), 2nd rounder (12), 11th rounder (1), 11th rounder (21) and 12th rounder (12)
Memphis trades: 1st rounder (9), 3rd rounder (9), 7th rounder (9) and 13th rounder (9)

Bulls trade: 3rd rounder (9), 3rd rounder (19), and 7th rounder (9)
Mavs trade: 1st rounder (23) and 9th rounder (4)

Toronto Sends: 1st rounder ( 25), 5th rounder (16)
Indiana Sends: 2nd rounder (13), 3rd rounder (18), 5th rounder (28)

Bulls trade 1st (23rd overall)
Charlotte trades 2nd (11), 3rd (20) & 5th(20)

July 19th

Boston trades:  2nd rounder (25) and 9th rounder (6)
Chicago trades: 3rd rounder  (1), 7the rounder (28)

Detroit sends: 1st rounder (7), 3rd rounder  (7), 5th rounder (7), 6th rounder (24), 8th rounder (24)
Toronto sends: 1st rounder (18), 2nd rounder (13), 4th rounder (12)

Boxers send: 4th rounder (30) 14th rounder (3) and 14th rounder (4)
Grizzlies send: 5th rounder (9), 11th rounder (1), 11th rounder (9), 11th rounder (21)

Boxers send: 5th rounder (9), 15th rounder (27) and 15th rounder(28)
Bobcats send: 6th rounder (11), 7th rounder (20), and 11th rounder (20)

Heat trade: 1st rounder 21, 5th rounder (1), 6th rounder (30)
Bulls trade: 2nd rounder (11), 3rd rounder (20), 5th rounder (20) and 8th rounder (12)

Philly trades: 6th rounder (27), 12th rounder (28) and 14th rounder (12)
Chicago trades: 7th rounder (21), 8th rounder (14), 13th rounder (9), 15th rounder (1)

CHA trades: 4th rounder (11), 5th rounder  (9) and 8th rounder (11)
POR trades: 3rd rounder  (12) and 9th rounder (16)

Philadelphia sends: 11t h rounder (3), 11th rounder (4)
Washington Sends: 10th rounder (10), 12th rounder (14), 12th rounder (15)

Philadelphia sends: 1st rounder (4), 4th rounder (27), 7th rounder (4), 8th rounder (, 15th rounder (3)
Chicago sends: 1st rounder (9), 2nd rounder (25), 12th rounder (28)

July 20th

Bulls trade:1st rounder (21), 4th rounder (27), 5th rounder (1)
Heat trade: 2nd rounder (11), 2nd rounder (30), 3rd rounder (20), 5th rounder (20), 6th rounder (12)

Bulls trade: 2nd rounder (11) and 3rd rounder (20 )
Kings trade: 1st rounder (17)

Spurs send: 2nd rounder (6), 4th rounder (6)
Warriors send: 1st rounder (24)

Bulls trade: 2nd rounder (30), 5th rounder (20), 6th rounder (12), 6nd rounder (27), 6th rounder (30) and 7th rounder (19)
Spurs trade: 1st rounder (24)

Detroit: 2th rounder (13), 9th rounder (7)
Toronto: 3rd rounder (7), 5th rounder (3), 6th rounder (13), 8th rounder (24)

Boxers send: 6th rounder (11),  6th rounder (21)
Nets send: 5th rounder (22), 7th rounder (22)

July 21st

Boxers send 2(10) 5(22)
Suns send 2(16) 5(19) 11(17)

Boxers send 2(16) and 5(19)
Braves send 2(29) and 4(29)

Spurs send: 2(30) 6(27)
Rockets send: 2(20)

Spurs send:  2nd rounder(20), 5th rounder(25), 6th rounder(12)
Blazers send: 2nd rounder(15), 6th rounder(15), 7th rounder(16)

Timberwolves send: 3rd rounder (14), 5th rounder (14) and 7th rounder (14)
Nuggets send: 2nd rounder (28)

Philly trades:  2nd rounder (27), 12th rounder (28), 15th rounder (1)
Sacromento trades: 3rd rounder (10), 7th rounder (10), 7th rounder (17)

Suns Send: Al Horford, 3(17), 5(22)
Bulls Send: Al Jefferson, 8(10), 9(1)

July 22nd

Denver sends:  8th rounder (3), 8th rounder (4),  10th rounder (4) and a 12th rounder (4)
Bucks sends: 5th rounder (5)

Chicago sends: 3rd rounder (17) and 5th rounder (22)
Detroit sends: 4th rounder (13) ,4th rounder (29), and 6th rounder (13)

Bulls trade: 4.13, 6.13 and 8.8
Kings trade: 3.20 and 9.10

CHI trades: the rights to Marc Gasol, 4th rounder (29), and 14th rounder (12)
ORL trades 4th rounder (3), 4th rounder (10), and 10th rounder (4)

Spurs send: 5th rounder(20), 6th rounder(27), 6th rounder(28), 7th rounder(25)
Cavaliers send: 3rd rounder(29)

ORL sends 4.29, 6.14, 8.27, 8.30, 5 TPs
MIA sends 4.27, 5.1, 9.19

Suns Send:  Ron Artest
Toronto Sends: Josh Howard, 5th rounder(7), 6th rounder (24)

July 23rd

Toronto Sends: 5th rounder (26)
Phildelphia sends: 7th rounder (14), 7th rounder (21)

Spurs send: 6th rounder(15) and 8th rounder(6)
Sixers send: 5th rounder(24) and 10th rounder(27)

Bulls trade: 4th rounder (10), 9th rounder (10) 
Heat trade: 4th rounder (29), 5th rounder (21), 14th rounder (10)

Bulls trade: 7th rounder (4), 10th rounder (4), 10th rounder (12) and 15th rounder (3)
Wolves trade: 6th rounder (17) and 12th rounder (14)

ORL trades:  4th rounder (27) and 12th rounder (30)
SAS trades: 6th rounder (6), 7th rounder (15), and 7th rounder (19)

Suns Send: 4th rounder (16), 6th rounder (24), 10th rounder (14), 10TP's
Las Vegas Sends: 4th rounder (20), 5th rounder (30), 8th rounder (1)

GS sends: 10th rounder (6)
DAL sends: 12th rounder (, 12th rounder (27), 14th rounder (

Suns Trade: 5th rounder (7), 5th rounder (10)
Bulls Trade: 4th rounder(29), 6th rounder(17)

ORL sends: Emeka Okafor, 7th rounder (19), 9th rounder (19)
PHI sends: Jason Richardson, 7th rounder (10), 8th rounder (14)

July 25th

Boston sends: 6.26, 7.28, 10.26 and 10 Tp's
Golden St sends: 5.24

ORL sends:  8th rounder(14)
DAL sends:  9th rounder(23), 10th rounder(6), 10th rounder (15)

July 26th

Toronto Sends: Gilbert Arenas, 7th rounder (17)
Charlotte sends: Andre Miller, 9th rounder (16)

Portland trades: 13th rounder (16), 13th rounder  (27), 13th rounder (28), 15th rounder (16)
Miami trades:  11th rounder (19)

July 27th

ORL sends: 13th rounder (19), 14th rounder (12), 3 TPs
NJN sends: 13th rounder (22), 14th rounder (9)

Bulls trade: 9th rounder (4) and 9th rounder (6)
Kings trade: 8th rounder (21), 10th rounder (21), and 11th rounder (10)

Spurs send: Luis Scola, 12th rounder (6)
Bulls send: Tayshaun Prince, 11th rounder (14)

Twolves send: 7th rounder (4) and 10th rounder (12)
Rockets send: 6th rounder (27)

DAL sends : 7th rounder (23), 8th rounder(14)
GS sends: 6th rounder (25)

POR trades:  Spencer Hawes, 8th rounder (11), 11th rounder (16)
MIA trades:  Shaquille O’Neal, 8(30), 12th rounder (10).

Orlando trades 7.16
Miami trades 8.11, 10.30 and 13.16

Denver trades: 7(14)  {Darko}
Phoenix trades: 8 (10) and 9 (17)

Seattle sends: 10th rounder (16), 11th rounder (15), and 11th rounder (23)
Toronto sends: 9th rounder (16)

Boxers send :9th rounder (28), 11th rounder (20), 11th rounder (21)
Boxers: receive 8th rounder (1)
Las Vegas send: 7th rounder (30)
Las Vegas receives: 9th rounder (28), 11th rounder (20), 11th rounder (21), 14th rounder (14)
Suns send: 8th rounder (1),  14th rounder (14)
Suns receives:  7th rounder (30)

Braves send: Andrei Kirilienko and 12th rounder(29)
Spurs send: Al Thornton.

Seattle sends: 8th rounder (16)
Milwaukee sends:  8th rounder (25) and 9th rounder(5)

July 28th

POR trades: the rights to Marco Bellinelli
TOR trades: 8(28), 11(15)

Suns Send: Ramon Sessions, James Harden, Marresse Speights, 13th rounder (17)
Heat send: Rajon Rondo, 9th rounder (21)

POR trades: 8(30), 15(6)
MIN trades: 9(14), 10(4)

Philly sends: 15.4
Portland sends: 10 TPs

Spurs send: O.J Mayo, 10th rounder (27), 10th rounder (28)
Pistons send: Richard Hamilton, Matt Barnes, Jarrett Jack

ORL trades 9.23, 10.30, and 5 TPs
SAC trades 9.6 and 12.21

Detroit: Gerald Wallace
Chicago: Rudy Fernandez, Wilson Chandler, 10th rounder (21)

POR trades: 10(4), 11(19)
PHO trades: 9(21)

Bulls trade 14th rounder (10) and 5 TP's
Kings trade 13th rounder (10)

Bulls trade 14th rounder (10) and 5 TP's
Kings trade 13th rounder (10)

Suns Trade: 10th rounder (4), 11th rounder (19)
Flamingos Trade: 9th rounder (30), 11th rounder (30) 10 TP's

July 29th

Buffalo trades 11.2
Washington trades: 11.4 and 10 tps

Phoenix Gets: Kosta Koufos, 12.7,12.8,12.27,13.24,14.7,15.24
Golden State Gets: Chuck Hayes and 11.30

Seattle sends Hasheem Thabeet, 13th rounder (16th) and 10 TPs
Sacramento sends Kenyon Martin and 10 TPS

Kings send: Tyson Chandler, Hakim Warrick, Keith Bogans
Pistons send: Samuel Dalembert, Al Harrington, Sasha Vujacic

Boxers send: 11.17 and 10TPs
Heat send: Hilton Armstrong

Boxers send 11.27, 11.28
\CrotoNats send Aaron Gray and 15.4

Bulls trade: 12.6 and 13.10
Kings trade: Chase Budinger and 15.1

Flamingos trade: Josh McRoberts
Phoenix trades: 12( 8 ) and 14(7)

July 30th

Detroit: Mo Williams, Wilson Chandler, Rudy Fernandez, DJ White
Memphis: Rudy Gay, Mo Evans, JJ Barea

Spurs Trade:Jerry Stackhouse, 13(25), 15(25)
Celtics Trade:Matt Harpring

Celtics Send: Lamar Odom
Spurs Send: Tayshaun Prince, Jared Jeffries

Mavericks Send: Peja Stojakovic, EricK Dampier
T-Wolves Send: David Lee

Suns Trade:Joel Pryzbilla, Travis Outlaw, Darko Milicic, Tyronn Lue
Boxers Trade:Andres Biedrins, CJ Watson, Darrell Arthur

Bucks send 14(25) to Denver for cash considerations.
 

July 31st

Las Vegas sends: 14(7)
Phoenix Sends: 15(17)

Portland gets: 15(29)
Cleveland gets: 10 TPs (paid)

Philly send: 15.19
Denver sends 10TPs

Bucks send 14(25) to Denver for cash considerations

Boxers send: Kevin Martin, Austin Daye, Hilton Armstrong, Ryan Anderson and 15.4
Bulls send: Gerald Wallace, Luis Scola and George Hill

ORL sends Chris Wilcox, Etan Thomas, DeAndre Jordan
SAS sends Jeff Foster, Melvin Ely

Bulls trade 15.4
Suns trade 15.24 and 10 TP's

Toronto sends: Aaron Brooks
Las Vegas sends: Earl Watson, Anderson Varejao

Kings agree to trade Jason Willams
Bulls agree to trade Lester Hudson

SAC sends: Harrington, Dalembert, Jennings, Vujacic
DAL sends: Murphy, Blake

Aug 1st

NONE

Aug 2nd


Boxers send Anthony Carter and James Singleton
Mavericks send Julian Wright and Speedy Claxton

Boxers send Travis Outlaw and Raymond Felton
Heat send Ramon Sessions and Anthony Morrow

Aug 3rd

ORL sends Melvin Ely
VEGAS sends Sebastian Telfair

ORL sends Francisco Garcia
TOR sends Anderson Varejao, Aaron Afflalo, 10 TPs

Aug. 4th

Boxers send: Wally Szczerbiak, Johan Petro, and Aaron Gray 10TP's
Hawks send: Juwan Howard and Dan Gadzuric

That Denver team made some nice moves last year. 

What happened with that GM this year?

[KCattheStripe]

A guy can't even crack wise about his own addiction to trading.