Official Discuss your CB Draft team

[Who]

A little glimpse of my vision:

(the x% is the percent out of a 100% for minutes per game at that postion. So, if I have Mike Miller 46% at the SG, and 20% at the SF, he's playing 22 mins at the SG and 10 mins at the SF, 32 mins total)

PG: Brandon Jennings (75%), Eric Maynor (25%)
SG(pre All-Star Break): Mike Miller (46%), Von Wafer(34%), Landry Fields (10%), Tony Allen (10%)
SF: LeBron James (60%), Tony Allen (25%), Mike Miller (15%)
PF: Ersan Ilyasova (60%), LeBron James (20%), Louis Amundson(10%), Gani Lawal(10%)
C: Joakim Noah (65%), Louis Amundson (20%), Kyrylo Fesenko (15%)

Waitin til February: Michael Redd

I'm probably more concerned about the minutes that an unproven Maynor, a enigmatic Wafer, and an undersized Allen (at SF) will be asked to play.

Not to mention the rookie Fields and the still-raw Fesenko.

Yeah, the bench has a lot of question marks on it.

I don't think Fesenko contributes anything at all. I think your squad will frequently have problems while Joakim Noah is on the bench. I don't see Mike D'Antoni taking to Tony Allen's irksome offensive game. I don't expect Michael Redd to be a rotation worthy player next season.

And the question marks that surround Von Wafer and whether he is fit and healthy + capable of repeating his former performance level. Von Wafer will be a very useful backup wing if he can, likely your main backup wing, but it is a serious question mark.

Eric Maynor is a weak backup point guard but I actually like this fit for him. I think he'll do better than he did in Utah or in OKC. The uptempo offense should help his game. I also like Landry Fields as a fifth wing. Gani Lawal is a nice choice as a third string power forward and I think he'll move ahead of Fesenko in the depth chart right away (fourth big in rotation).

I also don't like the lack of a defensive wing (I don't see TA playing much) to free LeBron up to defend the lesser offensive threat. LeBron is going to have to take on a much larger defensive load now with Mike Miller alongside him. I think that will have an adverse effect on his game.

Still, a trio of LeBron + Noah + Jennings is very effective and Ilyasova will be fantastic on this team. Miller is a very good role player too. Those five guys will engineer a lot of wins for this club.

So even with this weak bench, I think this team is a legitimate contender in the East.

[Donoghus]

Not true. We did a "Pick 2 Draft" last season where money was a factor, and I went young and was still able to assemble a young solid team.

People pick wins over imaginary money every time.

But this isn't the Pick 2 Draft, this is a different game.

I was under the impression that salaries are not a factor in this draft.  If that were the case, then KG was easily the worst pick of this whole draft haha.  I also would not have drafted Kobe 3rd, but would have settled for the $10M less Dwyane Wade.

Salaries arent a factor and shouldn't be considered.  If people want to hold themselves to it when they're drafting, however, all the power to them.

I disagree, economic factors surrounding a  "team of the future" are crucial for being in position to get that over the top player and to take that next step.

The Blazers are in great position from that standpoint.

If you feel that way, fine.

However, like I said before, we never officially mentioned anything about salaries being a consideration when drafting and people shouldn't expect their team to be seriously analyzed from that standpoint.  I can't recall a draft in the four years we've been doing this where its been a factor.  If that were the case, people would've certainly approached things in a different manner.

[Who]

Utah Jazz

Coach:  Gregg Popovich

PG: Jose Calderon / Willie Green / Chris Quinn
SG: Omri Cassipi / Danilo Gallinari
SF: Luc Richard Mbah A Moute / Wesley Johnson
PF: Pau Gasol / Craig Smith
C:  Yao Ming / Robin Lopez / Brian Zoubek

Still working on the best way to utilize my wings.  Gallinari may play more of the 3 when in and I'll slide Mbah a Moute to the 4 if Gasol is out or playing center for brief minutes.  A work in progress with rotations.

Starters - Calderon + Casspi + Wesley + Pau + Yao
Rotation - Green + Gallo + Mbah a Moute + Robin
Reserves - Craig Smith + Quinn + Brian Zoubek

I would start Wesley Johnson over Mbah a Moute because of his superior shooting skills. I was a fan of Mbah a Moute starting before Wesley Johnson was drafted. Now I'd shift him into a utility role as the backup PF and primary wing defender off the bench.

I would also waive Chris Quinn and sign another point guard in free agency. Possibly make that player my team's primary backup PG and shift Green into third string duty.

[Lucky17]

Destroying their confidence right out of the gate? Hmm… What are you implying here?  That the mental makeup of each player I drafted is so fragile that a bad season will ruin their ability to play in the NBA? If so, where’s the evidence of this? The last team I can remember that started two top 6 lottery picks was the 96-97 Boston Celtics. That team was the youngest team in the league at the time with a roster mainly comprised of rookies and 2nd year players. They went 28-38 until Pitino traded Billups for Anderson at the February deadline. Three of the 1st or 2nd year players on that team went on to win a combined 5 NBA championships….

I'm thinking specifically of Al Jefferson, who played on horrific teams for his first five/six years in the league, most recently for a team that's become a bit of a laughingstock. And I don't believe his recent DWI incident was unrelated.

Losing not only generates low esteem, but also bad habits and bad behavior, on and off the court.

[JSD]

Not true. We did a "Pick 2 Draft" last season where money was a factor, and I went young and was still able to assemble a young solid team.

People pick wins over imaginary money every time.

But this isn't the Pick 2 Draft, this is a different game.

I was under the impression that salaries are not a factor in this draft.  If that were the case, then KG was easily the worst pick of this whole draft haha.  I also would not have drafted Kobe 3rd, but would have settled for the $10M less Dwyane Wade.

Salaries arent a factor and shouldn't be considered.  If people want to hold themselves to it when they're drafting, however, all the power to them.

I disagree, economic factors surrounding a  "team of the future" are crucial for being in position to get that over the top player and to take that next step.

The Blazers are in great position from that standpoint.

If you feel that way, fine.

However, like I said before, we never officially mentioned anything about salaries being a consideration when drafting and people shouldn't expect their team to be seriously analyzed from that standpoint.  I can't recall a draft in the four years we've been doing this where its been a factor.  If that were the case, people would've certainly approached things in a different manner.

I hear you. I based my team around using the cap flexibility as a selling point for a team on the rise.

[nickagneta]

Washington DC Boxers - Final Roster

Coach: Rudy Tomjonovic

Starters:

C: Andrew Bynum
PF: Luis Scola
SF: Wilson Chandler
SG: Manu Ginobili
PG: Raymond Felton

Bench:

C: Jamal Magliore, Iam Mahinmi
PF: Udonis Haslem, (Donte Green)
SF: Chase Budinger, Donte Green
SG: Leandro Barbosa, Jodie Meeks
PG: Jerryd Bayless, (Leandron Barbosa), (Jodie Meeks)

Well, unless someone knocks my socks off with a "Godfather" of a trade offer, I think that's what the Boxers are going to war with. Given that the best asset I had when I started out was the 26th pick in the 1st round, I am ecstatic about how this team has come out.

Not bad, nick.  I think you're a deep playoff team, *if* Bynum stays healthy. 

My challenge to you:  find some players (big men in particular) who started their careers with injury issues similar to Bynum's that came back to have productive, relatively healthy careers.  If you can show anecdotal evidence that this isn't going to be a chronic thing with Bynum, I'll be a lot more likely to buy into your team.

I think I learned my lesson with Michael Redd.  Some guys just can't be relied upon, as good as they are.  I'd love for you to show me something to counter that with, though.

You mean like Amare Stoudemire, Zydrunas Ilgauskas, Carlos Boozer(who twice missed extended time with leg injuries only to come back dominant), Antonio McDyess and Marcus Camby.

And that's without doing any research.

[Lucky17]

Utah Jazz

Coach:  Gregg Popovich

PG: Jose Calderon / Willie Green / Chris Quinn
SG: Omri Cassipi / Danilo Gallinari
SF: Luc Richard Mbah A Moute / Wesley Johnson
PF: Pau Gasol / Craig Smith
C:  Yao Ming / Robin Lopez / Brian Zoubek

Still working on the best way to utilize my wings.  Gallinari may play more of the 3 when in and I'll slide Mbah a Moute to the 4 if Gasol is out or playing center for brief minutes.  A work in progress with rotations.

I don't like the backup PGs.

I'd either start a shooter alongside Casspi, or start one alongside LucRichard. I don't consider either of them consistent shooters/scorers. I'm thinking Gallo alongside Luc. Casspi can better use his energy off the bench in controlled bursts. Johnson can be firepower off the bench against second stringers.

Solid rotation of bigs. You are stacked there.

[The Walker Wiggle]

I'm personally not factoring in coaches at all, and I don't think others should either. Not when the choices can but guys like Danny Ainge, Coach K, or Rudy T, none of who will ever under any scenario set foot on an NBA sideline.

Can't argue with that, but am curious if this is the popular sentiment?

I didn't get a response the first time i posed the question, so trying again. Anything approaching a consensus on coaches?

[Donoghus]

I'm personally not factoring in coaches at all, and I don't think others should either. Not when the choices can but guys like Danny Ainge, Coach K, or Rudy T, none of who will ever under any scenario set foot on an NBA sideline.

Can't argue with that, but am curious if this is the popular sentiment?

I didn't get a response the first time i posed the question, so trying again. Consensus on coaches?

I'm factoring in the coaches but probably only to the extent of 5-10% maximum.  Essentially, its gonna come down to the team you have with coaching as an aside with the potential to slightly help/hurt you.

One man's two cents.

[StartOrien]

I can't decide what my depth chart should look like. What do you you guys think?

Here's how I have it now

C: Dwight Howard / Greg Monroe
PF: Antawn Jamison / Ed Davis
SF: John Salmons / Hedo Turkoglu / Deshawn Stevenson
SG: Wesley Matthews / Rudy Fernandez / Dominique Jones 
PG: Baron Davis / Terrence Williams

My main decisions are debating between who to start,

SG: Matthews vs. Fernandez AND

PF: Jamison vs. Davis Vs. Monroe

TP for any advice

[Lucky17]

I'm personally not factoring in coaches at all, and I don't think others should either. Not when the choices can but guys like Danny Ainge, Coach K, or Rudy T, none of who will ever under any scenario set foot on an NBA sideline.

Can't argue with that, but am curious if this is the popular sentiment?

I didn't get a response the first time i posed the question, so trying again. Anything approaching a consensus on coaches?

I'm considering coaches in my voting process, absolutely.

[Lucky17]

I can't decide what my depth chart should look like. What do you you guys think?

Here's how I have it now

C: Dwight Howard / Greg Monroe
PF: Antawn Jamison / Ed Davis
SF: John Salmons / Hedo Turkoglu / Deshawn Stevenson
SG: Wesley Matthews / Rudy Fernandez / Dominique Jones  
PG: Baron Davis / Terrence Williams

My main decisions are debating between who to start,

SG: Matthews vs. Fernandez AND

PF: Jamison vs. Davis Vs. Monroe

Rudy's status this year is so up in the air. Regardless, why start either at SG? Shouldn't your starting wings be Salmons (natural SG, at 6-6 and 200 lbs) and Hedo? That would give you 4 accomplished shooters around Howard.

I really have no opinion/constructive comments at all on either Davis or Monroe, I'm afraid. Or Jones, for that matter.

I know Who suggested Williams as a PG, but I would prefer him to be the third option. A true PG would be better here, I think. Although, having Hedo might help alleviate the pressures for that more prototypical backup.

Lots of versatility in the lineup at the 2-4. Perhaps just a little more depth at the 1 and 5.

[nickagneta]

Utah Jazz

Coach:  Gregg Popovich

PG: Jose Calderon / Willie Green / Chris Quinn
SG: Omri Cassipi / Danilo Gallinari
SF: Luc Richard Mbah A Moute / Wesley Johnson
PF: Pau Gasol / Craig Smith
C:  Yao Ming / Robin Lopez / Brian Zoubek

Still working on the best way to utilize my wings.  Gallinari may play more of the 3 when in and I'll slide Mbah a Moute to the 4 if Gasol is out or playing center for brief minutes.  A work in progress with rotations.

Well, like me, Dons you are going to have to fight the "injury" argument with your big man. Personally I think Yao will be back, my question is because of his size and the severity of the problem(some initial reports had his career over), how effective will he be coming back when he will now be on the wrong side of 30(though barely)? We saw how long KG took to get his game back and it still isn't there yet and I don't think KG's injury was as devastating as Yao's?

Also, I'm not a fan of your PGs. Calderon throws up numbers and not wins and is sitting behind Jarrett Jack on the depth chart in Toronto. The GM in Charlotte traded for him only to have Michael Jordan nix the trade, presumably because he's no fan of Calderon's. There's something wrong there. I don't see Calderon as being able to make others better or his team better and if your team learns this, the back ups up not good.

I do love everything about the 2, 3 and 4 positions on this team and think is Calderon is legit and Yao can be Yao like by January, this is a very, very strong team. Because of the general lack of good teams in the West, you have a definite second round playoff team, good possibility of a  WCF team, chance at a Finals team where, if you make it, I think the Jazz will get smoked by 3-4 different EC teams.

[celticpride07]

Lakers are still entertaining all trade offers if teams need an extra player i can do 2 for 1 deals

[StartOrien]

Regardless, why start either at SG? Shouldn't your starting wings be Salmons (natural SG, at 6-6 and 200 lbs) and Hedo

Those are three guys who kinda need the ball in their hands to make something happen. Rudy likes to be a playmaker but also is a pretty good slasher so I think he works better, and Matthews doesn't need the ball and fills a need defensively.

Plus, as you pointed out, keeping Hedo on the bench makes him the Point Forward with some help from Rudy and/or T-Will.  I was looking for a backup PG for a while, but the dropoff in talent wasn't worth it to me.