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[ChampKind]

The final piece of the puzzle is in place. Finally I can stay I have a championship team after today's picks.

PG: Jason Terry, Ty Lawson
SG: Joe Johnson, Mike Dunleavy, Roger Mason
SF: Andrei Kirilenko, Vince Carter (or vice versa by matchup)
PF: LaMarcus Aldridge, Amir Johnson, Josh McRoberts
C: Andris Biedrins, Nikola Pekovic, Cole Aldrich

Lots of lean, athletic guys and outside shooting there. Defense isn't great, but it's at least cohesive (even if I tend to overrate Biedrins's capabilities...good lord I hope he has a bounceback year) but I think the offense will make up for it, and I think my depth is a nice feature as well.

Particularly Josh McRoberts, who will probably average a quadruple double this season if Jim O'Brien finally plays him. He also gives me the chance to throw a Dunleavy/Kirilenko/McRoberts/Biedrins/Aldrich whiteout lineup on the court, so I've got that going for me.

That said, while there's talent, there aren't a lot of likable guys on this roster. I doubt I took many people's "binkies" when drafting this squad, but I think they can push through and finally get me higher than an 8 seed in the playoffs.

Thoughts? Trade ideas? I also have Christian Eyenga, so a 2-for-1 swap on a smaller scale would be ok in my book.

[Donoghus]

Utah Jazz

Coach:  Gregg Popovich

PG: Jose Calderon / Willie Green / Chris Quinn
SG: Omri Cassipi / Danilo Gallinari
SF: Luc Richard Mbah A Moute / Wesley Johnson
PF: Pau Gasol / Craig Smith
C:  Yao Ming / Robin Lopez / Brian Zoubek

Still working on the best way to utilize my wings.  Gallinari may play more of the 3 when in and I'll slide Mbah a Moute to the 4 if Gasol is out or playing center for brief minutes.  A work in progress with rotations.

Well, like me, Dons you are going to have to fight the "injury" argument with your big man. Personally I think Yao will be back, my question is because of his size and the severity of the problem(some initial reports had his career over), how effective will he be coming back when he will now be on the wrong side of 30(though barely)? We saw how long KG took to get his game back and it still isn't there yet and I don't think KG's injury was as devastating as Yao's?

Also, I'm not a fan of your PGs. Calderon throws up numbers and not wins and is sitting behind Jarrett Jack on the depth chart in Toronto. The GM in Charlotte traded for him only to have Michael Jordan nix the trade, presumably because he's no fan of Calderon's. There's something wrong there. I don't see Calderon as being able to make others better or his team better and if your team learns this, the back ups up not good.

I do love everything about the 2, 3 and 4 positions on this team and think is Calderon is legit and Yao can be Yao like by January, this is a very, very strong team. Because of the general lack of good teams in the West, you have a definite second round playoff team, good possibility of a  WCF team, chance at a Finals team where, if you make it, I think the Jazz will get smoked by 3-4 different EC teams.

Fair enough.  Injuries and, to an extent, point guard play are a bit of a concern. I feel by having Lopez as his backup, Yao can be eased into things. There is no need to rush him back.  Still working out rotations here. 

I appreciate the critique, Nick.  Just curious, though, what 3-4 teams in the East would "smoke" Utah?

[nickagneta]

Utah Jazz

Coach:  Gregg Popovich

PG: Jose Calderon / Willie Green / Chris Quinn
SG: Omri Cassipi / Danilo Gallinari
SF: Luc Richard Mbah A Moute / Wesley Johnson
PF: Pau Gasol / Craig Smith
C:  Yao Ming / Robin Lopez / Brian Zoubek

Still working on the best way to utilize my wings.  Gallinari may play more of the 3 when in and I'll slide Mbah a Moute to the 4 if Gasol is out or playing center for brief minutes.  A work in progress with rotations.

Well, like me, Dons you are going to have to fight the "injury" argument with your big man. Personally I think Yao will be back, my question is because of his size and the severity of the problem(some initial reports had his career over), how effective will he be coming back when he will now be on the wrong side of 30(though barely)? We saw how long KG took to get his game back and it still isn't there yet and I don't think KG's injury was as devastating as Yao's?

Also, I'm not a fan of your PGs. Calderon throws up numbers and not wins and is sitting behind Jarrett Jack on the depth chart in Toronto. The GM in Charlotte traded for him only to have Michael Jordan nix the trade, presumably because he's no fan of Calderon's. There's something wrong there. I don't see Calderon as being able to make others better or his team better and if your team learns this, the back ups up not good.

I do love everything about the 2, 3 and 4 positions on this team and think is Calderon is legit and Yao can be Yao like by January, this is a very, very strong team. Because of the general lack of good teams in the West, you have a definite second round playoff team, good possibility of a  WCF team, chance at a Finals team where, if you make it, I think the Jazz will get smoked by 3-4 different EC teams.

Fair enough.  Injuries and, to an extent, point guard play are a bit of a concern. I feel by having Lopez as his backup, Yao can be eased into things. There is no need to rush him back.  Still working out rotations here. 

I appreciate the critique, Nick.  Just curious, though, what 3-4 teams in the East would "smoke" Utah?

Well for one the Boxers 

No no. Not letting you off the hook that easy Dons. You will find out in time. We have a long way to go before discussing team vs team matchups in my opinion. Long way to go.

I'm going to avoid comparing teams in individual match ups like the plague until I have to. Stirs up too much and makes arguments old when you have to pull them out later on.

[wdleehi]

Utah Jazz

Coach:  Gregg Popovich

PG: Jose Calderon / Willie Green / Chris Quinn
SG: Omri Cassipi / Danilo Gallinari
SF: Luc Richard Mbah A Moute / Wesley Johnson
PF: Pau Gasol / Craig Smith
C:  Yao Ming / Robin Lopez / Brian Zoubek

Still working on the best way to utilize my wings.  Gallinari may play more of the 3 when in and I'll slide Mbah a Moute to the 4 if Gasol is out or playing center for brief minutes.  A work in progress with rotations.

Well, like me, Dons you are going to have to fight the "injury" argument with your big man. Personally I think Yao will be back, my question is because of his size and the severity of the problem(some initial reports had his career over), how effective will he be coming back when he will now be on the wrong side of 30(though barely)? We saw how long KG took to get his game back and it still isn't there yet and I don't think KG's injury was as devastating as Yao's?

Also, I'm not a fan of your PGs. Calderon throws up numbers and not wins and is sitting behind Jarrett Jack on the depth chart in Toronto. The GM in Charlotte traded for him only to have Michael Jordan nix the trade, presumably because he's no fan of Calderon's. There's something wrong there. I don't see Calderon as being able to make others better or his team better and if your team learns this, the back ups up not good.

I do love everything about the 2, 3 and 4 positions on this team and think is Calderon is legit and Yao can be Yao like by January, this is a very, very strong team. Because of the general lack of good teams in the West, you have a definite second round playoff team, good possibility of a  WCF team, chance at a Finals team where, if you make it, I think the Jazz will get smoked by 3-4 different EC teams.

Fair enough.  Injuries and, to an extent, point guard play are a bit of a concern. I feel by having Lopez as his backup, Yao can be eased into things. There is no need to rush him back.  Still working out rotations here. 

I appreciate the critique, Nick.  Just curious, though, what 3-4 teams in the East would "smoke" Utah?

I like your team better starting Gallinare.

[Lucky17]

Like nick, I'm at the point where I think I am done with making changes, as I feel I've exhausted trade options.

Head Coach: J. Van Gundy

PG: Tony Parker, Ramon Sessions
SG: O.J. Mayo, Aron Afflalo
SF: Danny Granger, Austin Daye
PF: Boris Diaw, J.J. Hickson, Jonas Jerebko
C:  Sam Dalembert, Zaza Pachulia, Dan Gadzuric

In Europe: Nick Calathes

If I could start Afflalo, I would. It kills me to have to bring him off the bench.

I think Hickson makes the leap this year, and perhaps should start ahead of Diaw, for improved rebounding. Diaw could facilitate the offense for the second unit.

Mayo is another playmaker in the backcourt, and could be the emergency third PG. Sessions will back up Tony.

Jerebko, Gadzuric, and Pachulia all bring hustle and energy off the bench. Daye is a diamond in the rough who needs to develop a bit, but could conceivably play three positions for me.

I've left one roster slot open, in case there was a need the committee felt I should address through waivers.

[Donoghus]

Utah Jazz

Coach:  Gregg Popovich

PG: Jose Calderon / Willie Green / Chris Quinn
SG: Omri Cassipi / Danilo Gallinari
SF: Luc Richard Mbah A Moute / Wesley Johnson
PF: Pau Gasol / Craig Smith
C:  Yao Ming / Robin Lopez / Brian Zoubek

Still working on the best way to utilize my wings.  Gallinari may play more of the 3 when in and I'll slide Mbah a Moute to the 4 if Gasol is out or playing center for brief minutes.  A work in progress with rotations.

Well, like me, Dons you are going to have to fight the "injury" argument with your big man. Personally I think Yao will be back, my question is because of his size and the severity of the problem(some initial reports had his career over), how effective will he be coming back when he will now be on the wrong side of 30(though barely)? We saw how long KG took to get his game back and it still isn't there yet and I don't think KG's injury was as devastating as Yao's?

Also, I'm not a fan of your PGs. Calderon throws up numbers and not wins and is sitting behind Jarrett Jack on the depth chart in Toronto. The GM in Charlotte traded for him only to have Michael Jordan nix the trade, presumably because he's no fan of Calderon's. There's something wrong there. I don't see Calderon as being able to make others better or his team better and if your team learns this, the back ups up not good.

I do love everything about the 2, 3 and 4 positions on this team and think is Calderon is legit and Yao can be Yao like by January, this is a very, very strong team. Because of the general lack of good teams in the West, you have a definite second round playoff team, good possibility of a  WCF team, chance at a Finals team where, if you make it, I think the Jazz will get smoked by 3-4 different EC teams.

Fair enough.  Injuries and, to an extent, point guard play are a bit of a concern. I feel by having Lopez as his backup, Yao can be eased into things. There is no need to rush him back.  Still working out rotations here. 

I appreciate the critique, Nick.  Just curious, though, what 3-4 teams in the East would "smoke" Utah?

I like your team better starting Gallinare.

There's some indecision on my part about who I'll start at the SF right now.  Not sure. 

Some say Gallinari, some say Mbah a Moute, and some mention Johnson.

Got some time before the presser to figure things out.

[Gainesville Celtic]

if you rescramble the letters in DENVER NUGGETS, it spells....


WESTERN CONF CHAMPS!!!!!

[nickagneta]

Like nick, I'm at the point where I think I am done with making changes, as I feel I've exhausted trade options.

Head Coach: J. Van Gundy

PG: Tony Parker, Ramon Sessions
SG: O.J. Mayo, Aron Afflalo
SF: Danny Granger, Austin Daye
PF: Boris Diaw, J.J. Hickson, Jonas Jerebko
C:  Sam Dalembert, Zaza Pachulia, Dan Gadzuric

In Europe: Nick Calathes

If I could start Afflalo, I would. It kills me to have to bring him off the bench.

I think Hickson makes the leap this year, and perhaps should start ahead of Diaw, for improved rebounding. Diaw could facilitate the offense for the second unit.

Mayo is another playmaker in the backcourt, and could be the emergency third PG. Sessions will back up Tony.

Jerebko, Gadzuric, and Pachulia all bring hustle and energy off the bench. Daye is a diamond in the rough who needs to develop a bit, but could conceivably play three positions for me.

I've left one roster slot open, in case there was a need the committee felt I should address through waivers.

I think it a shame that you have Jerebko buried third on the depth chart behind Diaw and Hickson. While I think Hickson has to have a prove me year to be truly good PF, I think if you could package Diaw and Dalambert for a better center you could live quite well with the Hickson/Jerebko PF by committee. I like both young PFs and think between the two of them you will get good production, especially if you could land a top 10 center using Dalle and Diaw as bait.

[nickagneta]

Utah Jazz

Coach:  Gregg Popovich

PG: Jose Calderon / Willie Green / Chris Quinn
SG: Omri Cassipi / Danilo Gallinari
SF: Luc Richard Mbah A Moute / Wesley Johnson
PF: Pau Gasol / Craig Smith
C:  Yao Ming / Robin Lopez / Brian Zoubek

Still working on the best way to utilize my wings.  Gallinari may play more of the 3 when in and I'll slide Mbah a Moute to the 4 if Gasol is out or playing center for brief minutes.  A work in progress with rotations.

Well, like me, Dons you are going to have to fight the "injury" argument with your big man. Personally I think Yao will be back, my question is because of his size and the severity of the problem(some initial reports had his career over), how effective will he be coming back when he will now be on the wrong side of 30(though barely)? We saw how long KG took to get his game back and it still isn't there yet and I don't think KG's injury was as devastating as Yao's?

Also, I'm not a fan of your PGs. Calderon throws up numbers and not wins and is sitting behind Jarrett Jack on the depth chart in Toronto. The GM in Charlotte traded for him only to have Michael Jordan nix the trade, presumably because he's no fan of Calderon's. There's something wrong there. I don't see Calderon as being able to make others better or his team better and if your team learns this, the back ups up not good.

I do love everything about the 2, 3 and 4 positions on this team and think is Calderon is legit and Yao can be Yao like by January, this is a very, very strong team. Because of the general lack of good teams in the West, you have a definite second round playoff team, good possibility of a  WCF team, chance at a Finals team where, if you make it, I think the Jazz will get smoked by 3-4 different EC teams.

Fair enough.  Injuries and, to an extent, point guard play are a bit of a concern. I feel by having Lopez as his backup, Yao can be eased into things. There is no need to rush him back.  Still working out rotations here. 

I appreciate the critique, Nick.  Just curious, though, what 3-4 teams in the East would "smoke" Utah?

I like your team better starting Gallinare.

There's some indecision on my part about who I'll start at the SF right now.  Not sure. 

Some say Gallinari, some say Mbah a Moute, and some mention Johnson.

Got some time before the presser to figure things out.

What I love about that area of your team Dons, is depending on the match up, you could go with any of those guys. Play against a small SG, play Gallo at SG. Playing against a big, powerful SF, start the Prince there. Playing against a team that doesn't score a lot of points, bring the Prince off the bench. The situation uses depending on matchup with Gallinari, Casspi and Mbah a Moute are excellent.

[Lucky17]

Like nick, I'm at the point where I think I am done with making changes, as I feel I've exhausted trade options.

Head Coach: J. Van Gundy

PG: Tony Parker, Ramon Sessions
SG: O.J. Mayo, Aron Afflalo
SF: Danny Granger, Austin Daye
PF: Boris Diaw, J.J. Hickson, Jonas Jerebko
C:  Sam Dalembert, Zaza Pachulia, Dan Gadzuric

In Europe: Nick Calathes

If I could start Afflalo, I would. It kills me to have to bring him off the bench.

I think Hickson makes the leap this year, and perhaps should start ahead of Diaw, for improved rebounding. Diaw could facilitate the offense for the second unit.

Mayo is another playmaker in the backcourt, and could be the emergency third PG. Sessions will back up Tony.

Jerebko, Gadzuric, and Pachulia all bring hustle and energy off the bench. Daye is a diamond in the rough who needs to develop a bit, but could conceivably play three positions for me.

I've left one roster slot open, in case there was a need the committee felt I should address through waivers.

I think it a shame that you have Jerebko buried third on the depth chart behind Diaw and Hickson. While I think Hickson has to have a prove me year to be truly good PF, I think if you could package Diaw and Dalambert for a better center you could live quite well with the Hickson/Jerebko PF by committee. I like both young PFs and think between the two of them you will get good production, especially if you could land a top 10 center using Dalle and Diaw as bait.

I was really impressed by Jerebko last season. I agree, finding him minutes would be a challenge, behind both Diaw and Hickson. But he'll also get minutes at the 3, where he spent a good chunk of his time (40%?) last season.

I'll consider that suggestion, though. I consider Dallie a legit starting center, despite his often self-ignored offensive deficiencies. At this point, though, I think I'd be hard pressed to find someone willing to trade a "top 10 center" for depth.

[Roy H.]

if you rescramble the letters in DENVER NUGGETS, it spells....


WESTERN CONF CHAMPS!!!!!

I thought it spelled "verge dung nest".

I think there's some hidden meaning there about your team's chemistry.

[Roy H.]

I think there's pretty wide agreement that there are no perfect teams out there.  Every single contender has noticeable flaws. 

This year, it's really going to come down to playoff matchups in the voting, at least as far as I'm concerned.

[riah32]

Thoughts on this team since I'm not finding anything I really like for outlaw and Smith:

Pg: Rondo/Bynum/Jordan Crawford
SG: Rush/Smith/Crawford/Murray
SF: Outlaw/Ebanks/Kapono
Pf: Landry/Humphries or Howard/
C:  Bogut/Mohammad/Howard

[nickagneta]

I think there's pretty wide agreement that there are no perfect teams out there.  Every single contender has noticeable flaws. 

This year, it's really going to come down to playoff matchups in the voting, at least as far as I'm concerned.

I agree, which is why I'll be avoiding doing the "How do you match up against....?" questions as much as possible. I'll save the good arguments for when it counts.

[celticpride07]

unless anymore trades happen which i am still open to.
the LA Lakers will end up looking like this:

PG Curry/Augustin/Dooling
SG Roy/Richardson
SF Prince/Green/McGrady
PF Beasley/Harrington/Gooden
C  Chandler/Andersen