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[celticpride07]

LA Lakers:  Coach K

Starters:      Rotation Players:         Reserves:
PG Curry       PF/SF Beasley             C D. Andersen
SG Roy         SG/SF T. Williams         PG Dooling
SF Prince      SG/SF Q. Richardson       SG McGrady
PF Green       PF/C  Gooden              SF J. Hayes
C  Chandler    PG Augustin               PF D. Cunningham
 
Thoughts?

[Kwhit10]

I think his 9 man rotation is fantastic.

Why?

Okur is a poor rebounding center, coming off Achilles tendon surgery.
Brand has been a shell of his former self for the past several years.
Varejao is a great defender, but is limited offensively.
Gomes and Butler are glue guys, not scorers.

I think this team will be outrebounded and outpaced by more athletic teams.

Okur may not be the best rebounder, but remember I also get 7-8 rpg from my SF position.  Which small forward got more than Durant in rebounds?  Gerald Wallace?

Varejao is there to be the main front court defensive guy and he will hustle.  Okur can hit a shot out to the 3pt line, while Brand and score for himself down low.  I can see Brand giving at least 15-8.

[Fafnir]

I like that he sat out the French national team to rest it though.

I agree. And given that he's a personal favorite and a friend-of-friend I have my fingers crossed he'll be 100% or near enough to play through the discomfort. But either way, he's a hard running 32 mpg center and the fall-off to Amundson or Fesenko is possibly the steepest in the league.

Amundson played 14.8 MPG at the 4/5 for the Conference Finals Suns team last season. If Noah plays 32, Amundson plays 10, and Fesenko plays 6 minutes per game at the 4, how do you feel about that?

Fesenko is the big guy on the Jazz right?

He can't play the 4 at all. You're better off sliding LeBron to the 4.

[indeedproceed]

I like that he sat out the French national team to rest it though.

I agree. And given that he's a personal favorite and a friend-of-friend I have my fingers crossed he'll be 100% or near enough to play through the discomfort. But either way, he's a hard running 32 mpg center and the fall-off to Amundson or Fesenko is possibly the steepest in the league.

Amundson played 14.8 MPG at the 4/5 for the Conference Finals Suns team last season. If Noah plays 32, Amundson plays 10, and Fesenko plays 6 minutes per game at the 4, how do you feel about that?

Fesenko is the big guy on the Jazz right?

He can't play the 4 at all. You're better off sliding LeBron to the 4.

I meant the 5, not the 4. My mistake.

[wdleehi]

LA Lakers:  Coach K

Starters:      Rotation Players:         Reserves:
PG Curry       PF/SF Beasley             C D. Andersen
SG Roy         SG/SF T. Williams         PG Dooling
SF Prince      SG/SF Q. Richardson       SG McGrady
PF Green       PF/C  Gooden              SF J. Hayes
C  Chandler    PG Augustin               PF D. Cunningham
 
Thoughts?

Use some of that depth and trade with a team short of players.  2 for 1 type of deals to get to 13 players so you are not just waiving players others will snatch up.

[celticpride07]

LA Lakers:  Coach K

Starters:      Rotation Players:         Reserves:
PG Curry       PF/SF Beasley             C D. Andersen
SG Roy         SG/SF T. Williams         PG Dooling
SF Prince      SG/SF Q. Richardson       SG McGrady
PF Green       PF/C  Gooden              SF J. Hayes
C  Chandler    PG Augustin               PF D. Cunningham
 
Thoughts?

Use some of that depth and trade with a team short of players.  2 for 1 type of deals to get to 13 players so you are not just waiving players others will snatch up.

Anybody that wants to do a 2 for 1 or 3 for 1 trade please PM me offers.

[Kwhit10]

Ok here is the finalized Atlanta Hawks
Coach: Jim O'Brien

PG: Hinrich
SG: JJ Redick
SF: Keving Durant
PF: Anderson Varejao
C: Mehmet Okur

Bench:
C/PF: Elton Brand
PG: Luke Ridnour
SF/PF: Ryan Gomes
SG/SF: Rasual Butler
PG: Shaun Livingston
C/PF: Josh Boone

Reserves:
SG/SF: Stephen Graham
PF/C: Hassan Whiteside

Injury Reserve:
PF: Epke Udoh

Full court press lineup:  
Livingston, Hinrich, Butler, Gomes, Varejao

I'm not sure how high I am on this starting lineup.  You've got Durant who can create his own shot and the rest of your team I picture standing around a lot.  A problem is I don't know what kind of a passer Durant is, I've never seen him wow me with his passing before and he only averaged 2.7 assists per game last season and 2.3 in the playoffs.  I think this would be a great lineup to surround Lebron with, but I don't know if it works equally well with Durant.  Hinrich is a good passer/scorer so maybe he can set up Redick for some shots and score some on his own.  If we were looking at '09-'10 assist totals, I'd guess this team would probably be in the bottom 5 in our league for starting lineups (aside from rookie teams).  That being true for a team with only really 1 starter who can create his own shot does not spell offensive efficiency for me.  And this team is not that great defensively.

The good news!  Is that you've got a great bench.  What I'd do is start Brand over Varejao.  That gives you a low post threat on offense who can create his own shot and been known to dish out 2-3 apg in his prime.  He and Okur will complement each other very nicely.  Now, you have one of the premier energy guys in the league coming off the bench in a role he's best suited for.  He can still play 24-28 mpg off the bench.  I'm high on Livingston being able to produce for you too.  Maybe even become a starter midseason making Hinrich or Redick expendable as trade chips (although we won't know that til after the voting, its a possibility that I'll consider in when voting).

Big Question:
Being in the east, who guards Kobe and Wade?  I hope not Redick!  And if Durant, he is going to wear out (he did it in the 4th quarter against, LA, but for a whole game?) and then you'll have no offense at all.

Projection:  44-48 wins

Both Butler and Hinrich are above average defenders. 

This team's offense will be very open with stretch shooters in Reddick and Okur.  This will open things up for Durant to drive and if he's doubled he'll have plenty of open people on the perimeter.  This team is very level headed and contains a lot of smart players offensively and defensively.

[The Walker Wiggle]

I like that he sat out the French national team to rest it though.

I agree. And given that he's a personal favorite and a friend-of-friend I have my fingers crossed he'll be 100% or near enough to play through the discomfort. But either way, he's a hard running 32 mpg center and the fall-off to Amundson or Fesenko is possibly the steepest in the league.

Amundson played 14.8 MPG at the 4/5 for the Conference Finals Suns team last season. If Noah plays 32, Amundson plays 10, and Fesenko plays 6 minutes per game at the 4, how do you feel about that?

If you want to lose in the Conference Finals I feel fine about it.

Comparing Amundson's production at the 4 vs the 5. He out rebounds opposing 4s, gets out rebounded by opposing centers; sees his .565 FG% plummet to .433; and is forced into fouling far more often as a first resort (over 10 fouls per 48 playing at the 5).

[Fafnir]

I like that he sat out the French national team to rest it though.

I agree. And given that he's a personal favorite and a friend-of-friend I have my fingers crossed he'll be 100% or near enough to play through the discomfort. But either way, he's a hard running 32 mpg center and the fall-off to Amundson or Fesenko is possibly the steepest in the league.

Amundson played 14.8 MPG at the 4/5 for the Conference Finals Suns team last season. If Noah plays 32, Amundson plays 10, and Fesenko plays 6 minutes per game at the 4, how do you feel about that?

Fesenko is the big guy on the Jazz right?

He can't play the 4 at all. You're better off sliding LeBron to the 4.

I meant the 5, not the 4. My mistake.

I think D'Antoni would use Ilyasova and LeBron at the 4/5 for stretches of the game. I don't think Fersenko would see the floor. Brad Miller would likely play ahead of him as well.

[Fafnir]

I like that he sat out the French national team to rest it though.

I agree. And given that he's a personal favorite and a friend-of-friend I have my fingers crossed he'll be 100% or near enough to play through the discomfort. But either way, he's a hard running 32 mpg center and the fall-off to Amundson or Fesenko is possibly the steepest in the league.

Amundson played 14.8 MPG at the 4/5 for the Conference Finals Suns team last season. If Noah plays 32, Amundson plays 10, and Fesenko plays 6 minutes per game at the 4, how do you feel about that?

If you want to lose in the Conference Finals I feel fine about it.

Comparing Amundson's production at the 4 vs the 5. He out rebounds opposing 4s, gets out rebounded by opposing centers; sees his .565 FG% plummet to .433; and is forced into fouling far more often as a first resort (over 10 fouls per 48 playing at the 5).

Such talk is heavily dependent on match ups. I'd have to see whom he was playing in the playoffs before I'd say a few minutes of Amundson at C would cost his team the series!

[indeedproceed]

I like that he sat out the French national team to rest it though.

I agree. And given that he's a personal favorite and a friend-of-friend I have my fingers crossed he'll be 100% or near enough to play through the discomfort. But either way, he's a hard running 32 mpg center and the fall-off to Amundson or Fesenko is possibly the steepest in the league.

Amundson played 14.8 MPG at the 4/5 for the Conference Finals Suns team last season. If Noah plays 32, Amundson plays 10, and Fesenko plays 6 minutes per game at the 4, how do you feel about that?

If you want to lose in the Conference Finals I feel fine about it.

Comparing Amundson's production at the 4 vs the 5. He out rebounds opposing 4s, gets out rebounded by opposing centers; sees his .565 FG% plummet to .433; and is forced into fouling far more often as a first resort (over 10 fouls per 48 playing at the 5).

So let him foul those centers.

I'm not convinced anymore that you need a solid 100% backup at the 5, or anywhere for that matter anymore.

Having some substantial depth is important, but we put too much focus on those 2 minutes here, 3 minutes there.

Who are the centers I need to worry about? What 7 footers with substantial offensive games don't start here?

I think we try ever so hard to make teams that are symmetrical top to bottom and 2nd units that "fit". In today's NBA, lineups are fluid, its not a line change anymore like in hockey.

In 20 minutes I'm going to bolster my frontcourt depth, and then we're going to see where the cards shake out, but I don't think Amundson's 10 minutes per game at the center position means I'm going to lose in the conference finals.

[The Walker Wiggle]

I like that he sat out the French national team to rest it though.

I agree. And given that he's a personal favorite and a friend-of-friend I have my fingers crossed he'll be 100% or near enough to play through the discomfort. But either way, he's a hard running 32 mpg center and the fall-off to Amundson or Fesenko is possibly the steepest in the league.

Amundson played 14.8 MPG at the 4/5 for the Conference Finals Suns team last season. If Noah plays 32, Amundson plays 10, and Fesenko plays 6 minutes per game at the 4, how do you feel about that?

If you want to lose in the Conference Finals I feel fine about it.

Comparing Amundson's production at the 4 vs the 5. He out rebounds opposing 4s, gets out rebounded by opposing centers; sees his .565 FG% plummet to .433; and is forced into fouling far more often as a first resort (over 10 fouls per 48 playing at the 5).

Such talk is heavily dependent on match ups. I'd have to see whom he was playing in the playoffs before I'd say a few minutes of Amundson at C would cost his team the series!

Maybe it's me. But why matchups? I can't see a team winning four best-of-seven playoffs series playing an undersized backup center who shoots 43%, gets out-rebounded, and outscored. Ten minutes can seem an eternity in a high pressure playoff game. Shelden Williams anyone?

[Fafnir]

I like that he sat out the French national team to rest it though.

I agree. And given that he's a personal favorite and a friend-of-friend I have my fingers crossed he'll be 100% or near enough to play through the discomfort. But either way, he's a hard running 32 mpg center and the fall-off to Amundson or Fesenko is possibly the steepest in the league.

Amundson played 14.8 MPG at the 4/5 for the Conference Finals Suns team last season. If Noah plays 32, Amundson plays 10, and Fesenko plays 6 minutes per game at the 4, how do you feel about that?

If you want to lose in the Conference Finals I feel fine about it.

Comparing Amundson's production at the 4 vs the 5. He out rebounds opposing 4s, gets out rebounded by opposing centers; sees his .565 FG% plummet to .433; and is forced into fouling far more often as a first resort (over 10 fouls per 48 playing at the 5).

Such talk is heavily dependent on match ups. I'd have to see whom he was playing in the playoffs before I'd say a few minutes of Amundson at C would cost his team the series!

Maybe it's me. But why matchups? I can't see a team winning four best-of-seven playoffs series playing an undersized backup center who shoots 43%, gets out-rebounded, and outscored. Ten minutes can seem an eternity in a high pressure playoff game. Shelden Williams anyone?

Teams get by with only 3 quality big men all the time. The Celtics did in 2007-2008, the Lakers have the past two years, and plenty of other teams have as well.

You're making a mountain out of a molehill. I'm not sure what center poses such an awful match up problem for IPs centers that would automatically lose him the series. (maybe Dwight but I don't think any other C is dominant enough)

[nickagneta]

Washington DC Boxers - Final Roster

Coach: Rudy Tomjonovic

Starters:

C: Andrew Bynum
PF: Luis Scola
SF: Wilson Chandler
SG: Manu Ginobili
PG: Raymond Felton

Bench:

C: Jamal Magliore, Iam Mahinmi
PF: Udonis Haslem, (Donte Green)
SF: Chase Budinger, Donte Green
SG: Leandro Barbosa, Jodie Meeks
PG: Jerryd Bayless, (Leandron Barbosa), (Jodie Meeks)

Well, unless someone knocks my socks off with a "Godfather" of a trade offer, I think that's what the Boxers are going to war with. Given that the best asset I had when I started out was the 26th pick in the 1st round, I am ecstatic about how this team has come out.

[Roy H.]

Washington DC Boxers - Final Roster

Coach: Rudy Tomjonovic

Starters:

C: Andrew Bynum
PF: Luis Scola
SF: Wilson Chandler
SG: Manu Ginobili
PG: Raymond Felton

Bench:

C: Jamal Magliore, Iam Mahinmi
PF: Udonis Haslem, (Donte Green)
SF: Chase Budinger, Donte Green
SG: Leandro Barbosa, Jodie Meeks
PG: Jerryd Bayless, (Leandron Barbosa), (Jodie Meeks)

Well, unless someone knocks my socks off with a "Godfather" of a trade offer, I think that's what the Boxers are going to war with. Given that the best asset I had when I started out was the 26th pick in the 1st round, I am ecstatic about how this team has come out.

Not bad, nick.  I think you're a deep playoff team, *if* Bynum stays healthy. 

My challenge to you:  find some players (big men in particular) who started their careers with injury issues similar to Bynum's that came back to have productive, relatively healthy careers.  If you can show anecdotal evidence that this isn't going to be a chronic thing with Bynum, I'll be a lot more likely to buy into your team.

I think I learned my lesson with Michael Redd.  Some guys just can't be relied upon, as good as they are.  I'd love for you to show me something to counter that with, though.