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[Roy H.]

I think there are a lots of "teams of the future" that haven't weighed in yet.

Jsaad's team is looking pretty strong.  Who's team (Splitter, Randolph, CP3) could be good for years to come. 

[nickagneta]

I think there are a lots of "teams of the future" that haven't weighed in yet.

Jsaad's team is looking pretty strong.  Who's team (Splitter, Randolph, CP3) could be good for years to come. 

Absolutely agree with this

The Lakers with Brandon Roy(26 years old), Stephen Curry, Josh Smith(24 years old) and Tyrus Thomas(24 years old) as well as the Buccaneers with Al Horford(24 years old), Gerald Wallace(28 years old), DeMarcus Cousins and Eric Gordon should also be considered.

[wdleehi]

I was wondering when Rebus was going to pull out the 20-5-5 stat. That's a haymaker punch in this debate that landed solidly.

Advantage RR.

 

And yet, created only a 9 game improvement.


How much improvement did those other guys create when the enter the league?


Even Jennings created a 12 game improvement.

[nickagneta]

I was wondering when Rebus was going to pull out the 20-5-5 stat. That's a haymaker punch in this debate that landed solidly.

Advantage RR.

 

And yet, created only a 9 game improvement.


How much improvement did those other guys create when the enter the league?


Even Jennings created a 12 game improvement.

I've never been one to pin team improvements on one player. The Kings and the Bucks had more changes to their teams between years than just the addition of Evans and Jennings.

I mean it's not like James Posey or Eddie House or Ray Allen or KG were solely responsible for the greatest single game improvement in NBA history. Everyone had a hand in that including the improved play of players already with the team like Perkins, Rondo and Pierce.

Milwaukee also added Kurt Thomas, John Salmons, Jodie Meeks, Ersan Ilyasova, and Carlos Delfino and saw improvements in the games of Bogut, Mbah a Moute and Ridnour. That could also help to explain that 12 game improvement.

[WeMadeIt17]

Nothing to say about the spurs?!

[Gomesfan]

my team could be considered a team of the future that can win now as well!

with that said I am open to discussing trades. No one is untouchable and I would love to move Caron or anyone that makes since.

[The Walker Wiggle]

Nothing to say about the spurs?!

I'll give it go.

Great, young backcourt pairing of Harris and Harden. Both are high effort, two-way players adept at getting into the lane and creating contact. While Harden's ball handling and heads-up play should free up Harris as the Spurs' second option on offense.

Bosh once again takes up the role of franchise cornerstone. As such, he's a known commodity. He'll play with energy, score early and often, primarily through a finesse post game - he was the most efficient low post scorer in the NBA last season - and a 45% face up jumper, and grab 10+ rebounds a game. And in San Antonio he's helped by the fact that he'll only have to carry his own weight defensively. (He's really not able to do more.)

But I may hate Artest as the Spurs' veteran starter, strongest personality and only NBA champion. He's a headache on offense, notorious for breaking plays and overreaching. He'll have to earn his keep on the other side of the ball, where he's still among the best man to man - though not help - defenders. His physical style and sheer strength do make him a nice fit next to #4.

Also compliments on hiring our guy, and former point guard, Doc Rivers to mentor Harris through his make-or-break comeback year.

Concerns: A stark lack of three point shooting is going to allow opposing defenses to crowd the Spurs, hurting the team's great mid-range play.

San Antonio is going to turn the ball over a lot.

Currently, the team's postseason hopes rely on both 20mpg players Harden and Ibaka taking on greatly expanded roles.

Am I close?

[nickagneta]

Nothing to say about the spurs?!

Let's see.

I think Devin Harris is a solid, consistent PG who played like a maniac for half a season to get an All-Star nod but who should never be mistaken as an All-Star caliber player. He's rock steady and that's what you want from a PG when the cornerstone of the franchise is somewhere else.

Bosh is that cornerstone. He is KG lite without the defensive intensity and ability. Not saying he's a bad defender, just not in KG's league.

I like Harden. Loved him in college and he impressed me last year on a young OKC team being their sixth man and played very good wing defense while showing he will someday be a very good scorer and is already a good outside shooter.

Ibaka, likewise, showed a lot of tenacity in the low post last year for Thunder. I think he could develop into their Perkins like low post defender/rebounder that is mediocre at best on offense.

Here's the problem with the Spurs. Artest will ruin your offense being unchecked by a leading man that can control him and Harden and Ibaka are still bench players at this point in their careers.

Your mistake in this draft was drafting Harris about 2 rounds too early instead of pairing Bosh up with someone that could have been more of an impact for your team. Stephen Jackson chosen two players later would have been the way I would have gone allowing you the ability to choose to play him at either wing meaning not having to draft Artest and adding someone like Dalambert in the third to put alongside Bosh. Bosh/Jackson/Dalambert/Harden/Ibaka would have impressed me much more.

But, I'm a guy that believes that PG is the least important position to building a winning team so take what I say with a grain of salt as it seems many of the GMs in this game put a lot of importance on that PG position.

[Edgar]

I dont know

I am seriously thinking that toronto team is sick.
Not necesarily old
and better on D that most people think.

[nickagneta]

I dont know

I am seriously thinking that toronto team is sick.
Not necesarily old
and better on D that most people think.

I think you're solo on an island with that thought this year, mi amigo.

[indeedproceed]

Nothing to say about the spurs?!

Let's see.

I think Devin Harris is a solid, consistent PG who played like a maniac for half a season to get an All-Star nod but who should never be mistaken as an All-Star caliber player. He's rock steady and that's what you want from a PG when the cornerstone of the franchise is somewhere else.

Bosh is that cornerstone. He is KG lite without the defensive intensity and ability. Not saying he's a bad defender, just not in KG's league.

I like Harden. Loved him in college and he impressed me last year on a young OKC team being their sixth man and played very good wing defense while showing he will someday be a very good scorer and is already a good outside shooter.

Ibaka, likewise, showed a lot of tenacity in the low post last year for Thunder. I think he could develop into their Perkins like low post defender/rebounder that is mediocre at best on offense.

Here's the problem with the Spurs. Artest will ruin your offense being unchecked by a leading man that can control him and Harden and Ibaka are still bench players at this point in their careers.

Your mistake in this draft was drafting Harris about 2 rounds too early instead of pairing Bosh up with someone that could have been more of an impact for your team. Stephen Jackson chosen two players later would have been the way I would have gone allowing you the ability to choose to play him at either wing meaning not having to draft Artest and adding someone like Dalambert in the third to put alongside Bosh. Bosh/Jackson/Dalambert/Harden/Ibaka would have impressed me much more.

But, I'm a guy that believes that PG is the least important position to building a winning team so take what I say with a grain of salt as it seems many of the GMs in this game put a lot of importance on that PG position.

I'd like to shorten Nick's synopsis as follows:

Because Bosh is your cornerstone and the rest of your guys have either proven (thus-far) incapable leaders (Harris) or haven't had an opportunity to lead (Harden, Ibaka), the team is kind of without a masthead.

Since they don't have anyone for Artest to defer to, he's going to run roughshod over that team on nights, and at this point in his career, that's a bad thing.

Or put more simply: I like your team, but Artest doesn't really belong there.

[Roy H.]

I dont know

I am seriously thinking that toronto team is sick.
Not necesarily old
and better on D that most people think.

I think you're solo on an island with that thought this year, mi amigo.

Not solo; he's got Redz as a Co-GM.

I do think that that Toronto team is a good one, although I'm not the Jameer Nelson fan that Edgar is.  (I would have taken Kidd, I think.)

[nickagneta]

I dont know

I am seriously thinking that toronto team is sick.
Not necesarily old
and better on D that most people think.

I think you're solo on an island with that thought this year, mi amigo.

Not solo; he's got Redz as a Co-GM.

I do think that that Toronto team is a good one, although I'm not the Jameer Nelson fan that Edgar is.  (I would have taken Kidd, I think.)

Nelson is solid though with that group a pass first guy like Kidd or Rondo has proven a better match. I think Toronto's big mistake though is wasting their 4th rounder on Perkins. Due to his injury my guess is he would still have been available on Monday. Dalambert, while not as good, was chosen right after Perk and would have been a better pick, IMHO, and better for the team come voting time. People just aren't going to think Perk is going to give Toronto much of anything this year and Toronto still could have pick up Perk in the 6th or 7th.

[Edgar]

He will be there ready when needed
If Yao asw pointed by my co gm was picked obn round 3 or so
why not perk there
p.s. I am more worried of making this look Bench good
and With one pick that could be made
U will love our bench
I guarantee

[Roy H.]

I dont know

I am seriously thinking that toronto team is sick.
Not necesarily old
and better on D that most people think.

I think you're solo on an island with that thought this year, mi amigo.

Not solo; he's got Redz as a Co-GM.

I do think that that Toronto team is a good one, although I'm not the Jameer Nelson fan that Edgar is.  (I would have taken Kidd, I think.)

Nelson is solid though with that group a pass first guy like Kidd or Rondo has proven a better match. I think Toronto's big mistake though is wasting their 4th rounder on Perkins. Due to his injury my guess is he would still have been available on Monday. Dalambert, while not as good, was chosen right after Perk and would have been a better pick, IMHO, and better for the team come voting time. People just aren't going to think Perk is going to give Toronto much of anything this year and Toronto still could have pick up Perk in the 6th or 7th.

The Perk pick may have been a bit high, but it's hard to judge how long he would have slid.  I mean, Oden and Yao were both picked highly, coming off injuries.  Why not Perk, right?  I do think that I like Perk on that team, assuming he's healthy (which is a big assumption).