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[KCattheStripe]

Kevin Love is already one of the most prolific rebounders in the NBA today, and he's a better passer now than Griffin will be for quite some time, if he ever gets there.

I think the Griffin-Love debate is pretty heavily in Kevin Love's corner right now, especially if you consider that he's yet to play on a team that will hand him the keys in the post.

True, but you're talking right now. This debate is about the future and upside is key. I think Love's defensive lapses will leave him about as productive a player as he is now while Griffin's upside is tremendous. While that may seem a ccopout because of his injury, he was still a number one pick wothout the injury history of a Greg Oden. If I'm building a team for the future, with the understanding that I need at least one All NBA player up front, I roll the dice on Griffin and not Love.

[indeedproceed]

Kevin Love is already one of the most prolific rebounders in the NBA today, and he's a better passer now than Griffin will be for quite some time, if he ever gets there.

I think the Griffin-Love debate is pretty heavily in Kevin Love's corner right now, especially if you consider that he's yet to play on a team that will hand him the keys in the post.

True, but you're talking right now. This debate is about the future and upside is key. I think Love's defensive lapses will leave him about as productive a player as he is now while Griffin's upside is tremendous. While that may seem a ccopout because of his injury, he was still a number one pick wothout the injury history of a Greg Oden. If I'm building a team for the future, with the understanding that I need at least one All NBA player up front, I roll the dice on Griffin and not Love.

I think you have a case, but to pay the devils advocate here, Love is the same height, the same age, and he's got 2 years of productive NBA experience. On top of that clearly he has room to grow as a player, and for those of us with two thumbs who watched 10 or so T-Wolves games this year (this guy!), it looked often like Love just wasn't being used right.

Blake Griffin might be an All-NBA player some day, but I'd bet a lot more money on Kevin Love getting at least one All-Star game before he hangs them up before I bet on Blake Griffin getting on an All-NBA team.

[WeMadeIt17]

Not to sure if my co GM put our roster in but it it is

Pg- devin harris
Sg- james harden
Sf- ron artest
Pf- chris bosh
C- serge ibaka

[wdleehi]

Seattle discuss why you are the clear team of the future over Memphis?

PG: Tyreke Evans       Brandon Jennings
SG: Anthony Morrow     Courtney Lee
SF: Corey Brewer       Shane Battier
PF: Kevin Love         Blake Griffin
C: Andray Blatche      Joakim Noah
Bench                  Dejuan Blair


I honestly believe we win every position battle aside from PG. I thinK Courtney Lee's proven ability to be a starter on a championship contender is huge and puts him over the top of Morrow. Shane Battier is easily a better player than Brewer and will provide the veteran leadership a young team needs and that your team lacks. I believe, although this is one I admit is open to debate, that Griffin will be a tremendous player, similar to Amar'e after the knee surgery but without the motor issues, and that will make him better than Love. Noah is already a better player than Blatche and will continue to be. Blair is a fantastic back up big and was so last season for a playoff team. While my team is young they have extensive playoff experience, which yours lacks, and leadership, also lacking by yours at this moment.

I also believe that it is importnat to have a dominant 4 or 5 to win an NBA title and I believe my front line has the potential to have 2 all nba players and yours doesn't.

Why argue?


Detroit has the best future out of all these teams.  

Wall will be the better PG.

Jefferson is the better PF.  (thus he started ahead of Love)

Not to mention the talk in DC about how Blatche is to soft to play C.  (he is strictly a PF)

How can you be the team of the future when three of your starters are reserves on lotto teams?


The Noah, Jenning, Griffen grouping is very interesting thought.  Really depends on if Griffen can beat the Clipper curse.

[RebusRankin]

No indication Wall will be better than Evans. Minnesota had both and kept Love, Team USA has Love, are you sure Jefferson will end up being better?

Evans, Brewer and Blatche were all starters and Love and Morrow also started 1/3 to half their games.

Team of the future because we're young with good upside.

As for Detroit, Blatche is better than Hibbert as well.

[KCattheStripe]

I'd argue that Blatche showed all-star potential as a starter last year and while I'd concede Noah is a better rebounder and defender, Blatche is miles ahead offensively.

Lee only started half the games that season for Orlando and Morrow is a better shooter and scorer.

Offense can be worked on, defensive gifts and a desire to rebound and compete are innate traits. Noah can become a better scorer, I don't think Blatche can ever be a great rebounder or defender.

Lee started the important half, including the playoffs. Morrow is a better Shooter and scorer who doesn't play D and only scored 13 pts a game in an offense where all you are asked to do is shoot and score.

[wdleehi]

No indication Wall will be better than Evans. Minnesota had both and kept Love, Team USA has Love, are you sure Jefferson will end up being better?

Evans, Brewer and Blatche were all starters and Love and Morrow also started 1/3 to half their games.

Team of the future because we're young with good upside.

As for Detroit, Blatche is better than Hibbert as well.

Going off the Minnesota front office's decisions not always the smartest route.  


All I know is one of them has proven to be a 20 and 10 guy that in real life, Utah jumped at the chance to grab.  (You know, an organizations that makes pretty good moves)


Blatche is a PF that is immature and refuses to go back into the game because his coach wanted him to play defense.  A stat hanger that couldn't even break into the lineup until the Wiz traded away the two starters.    

Hibbert is an improving 7'2, 278 lb C who is already averaging close to 11 and 6 while only playing 25 minutes a game.  

Which one do you think teams want as the C?


Your team has the same problem Minnesota did.  Your best two big men are both PFs.  


Leave with this

http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=15726

"I took him out of the game because I wanted to talk to him about not getting back on defense," Saunders told reporters. "He didn't want to hear it.

"I told him 'if you don't want to talk, don't want to be coached, you're not going to play.' We had coaches go up to him three different times. He just said he didn't want to play."

"In 15 years (of coaching), I've never seen anything like it. Never."

"He can be p---ed at me but you never leave your teammates hanging out to dry like that," Saunders added.

"No matter what. Especially when you've lost 11 games in a row and have a chance to win one. It's uncalled for."

"I am really disappointed in him," Saunders said. "Since he's been starting, 60 percent of the offense is run through him. He thinks I yell at him because he takes bad shots. He's taken twice as many shots as anybody.

"Coaches aren't wrong. When a coach wants to teach you something, you can't think you're above that."

[KCattheStripe]

Seattle discuss why you are the clear team of the future over Memphis?

PG: Tyreke Evans       Brandon Jennings
SG: Anthony Morrow     Courtney Lee
SF: Corey Brewer       Shane Battier
PF: Kevin Love         Blake Griffin
C: Andray Blatche      Joakim Noah
Bench                  Dejuan Blair


I honestly believe we win every position battle aside from PG. I thinK Courtney Lee's proven ability to be a starter on a championship contender is huge and puts him over the top of Morrow. Shane Battier is easily a better player than Brewer and will provide the veteran leadership a young team needs and that your team lacks. I believe, although this is one I admit is open to debate, that Griffin will be a tremendous player, similar to Amar'e after the knee surgery but without the motor issues, and that will make him better than Love. Noah is already a better player than Blatche and will continue to be. Blair is a fantastic back up big and was so last season for a playoff team. While my team is young they have extensive playoff experience, which yours lacks, and leadership, also lacking by yours at this moment.

I also believe that it is importnat to have a dominant 4 or 5 to win an NBA title and I believe my front line has the potential to have 2 all nba players and yours doesn't.

Why argue?


Detroit has the best future out of all these teams.  

Wall will be the better PG.

Jefferson is the better PF.  (thus he started ahead of Love)

Not to mention the talk in DC about how Blatche is to soft to play C.  (he is strictly a PF)

How can you be the team of the future when three of your starters are reserves on lotto teams?


The Noah, Jenning, Griffen grouping is very interesting thought.  Really depends on if Griffen can beat the Clipper curse.

I think between us it's a matter if the game is up tempo, then we run you out of the gym, or if it's a half court game, then you pick and roll us to death with Wall/Gordon and All Jeff.

[wdleehi]

Seattle discuss why you are the clear team of the future over Memphis?

PG: Tyreke Evans       Brandon Jennings
SG: Anthony Morrow     Courtney Lee
SF: Corey Brewer       Shane Battier
PF: Kevin Love         Blake Griffin
C: Andray Blatche      Joakim Noah
Bench                  Dejuan Blair


I honestly believe we win every position battle aside from PG. I thinK Courtney Lee's proven ability to be a starter on a championship contender is huge and puts him over the top of Morrow. Shane Battier is easily a better player than Brewer and will provide the veteran leadership a young team needs and that your team lacks. I believe, although this is one I admit is open to debate, that Griffin will be a tremendous player, similar to Amar'e after the knee surgery but without the motor issues, and that will make him better than Love. Noah is already a better player than Blatche and will continue to be. Blair is a fantastic back up big and was so last season for a playoff team. While my team is young they have extensive playoff experience, which yours lacks, and leadership, also lacking by yours at this moment.

I also believe that it is importnat to have a dominant 4 or 5 to win an NBA title and I believe my front line has the potential to have 2 all nba players and yours doesn't.

Why argue?


Detroit has the best future out of all these teams.  

Wall will be the better PG.

Jefferson is the better PF.  (thus he started ahead of Love)

Not to mention the talk in DC about how Blatche is to soft to play C.  (he is strictly a PF)

How can you be the team of the future when three of your starters are reserves on lotto teams?


The Noah, Jenning, Griffen grouping is very interesting thought.  Really depends on if Griffen can beat the Clipper curse.

I think between us it's a matter if the game is up tempo, then we run you out of the gym, or if it's a half court game, then you pick and roll us to death with Wall/Gordon and All Jeff.

Difference is, right now, I have two proven 20 point scorers to take pressure off my PG. 

Comes down to who controls the boards. 

[KCattheStripe]

Seattle discuss why you are the clear team of the future over Memphis?

PG: Tyreke Evans       Brandon Jennings
SG: Anthony Morrow     Courtney Lee
SF: Corey Brewer       Shane Battier
PF: Kevin Love         Blake Griffin
C: Andray Blatche      Joakim Noah
Bench                  Dejuan Blair


I honestly believe we win every position battle aside from PG. I thinK Courtney Lee's proven ability to be a starter on a championship contender is huge and puts him over the top of Morrow. Shane Battier is easily a better player than Brewer and will provide the veteran leadership a young team needs and that your team lacks. I believe, although this is one I admit is open to debate, that Griffin will be a tremendous player, similar to Amar'e after the knee surgery but without the motor issues, and that will make him better than Love. Noah is already a better player than Blatche and will continue to be. Blair is a fantastic back up big and was so last season for a playoff team. While my team is young they have extensive playoff experience, which yours lacks, and leadership, also lacking by yours at this moment.

I also believe that it is importnat to have a dominant 4 or 5 to win an NBA title and I believe my front line has the potential to have 2 all nba players and yours doesn't.

Why argue?


Detroit has the best future out of all these teams.  

Wall will be the better PG.

Jefferson is the better PF.  (thus he started ahead of Love)

Not to mention the talk in DC about how Blatche is to soft to play C.  (he is strictly a PF)

How can you be the team of the future when three of your starters are reserves on lotto teams?


The Noah, Jenning, Griffen grouping is very interesting thought.  Really depends on if Griffen can beat the Clipper curse.

I think between us it's a matter if the game is up tempo, then we run you out of the gym, or if it's a half court game, then you pick and roll us to death with Wall/Gordon and All Jeff.

Difference is, right now, I have two proven 20 point scorers to take pressure off my PG. 

Comes down to who controls the boards. 

I think that's a related issue to what i said before, if we control the boards we're running. If you do, it's P nR all day long.

[nickagneta]

Great "Team of the Future" debate.

Just about two weeks early.

But have fun fine tuning these arguments. They are quite entertaining.

 

[RebusRankin]

Hibbert is slow and a poor defender, Al has never been a good defender, has only put up numbers with bad teams and can be a black hole on offense. Wall may have potential but has done nothing in the NBA yet. Meanwhile my PG put up 20-5-5 as a rookie joining Oscar, MJ and Lebron in that club. No question in my mind who's the best player out of Walls and Evans.

[wdleehi]

Hibbert is slow and a poor defender, Al has never been a good defender, has only put up numbers with bad teams and can be a black hole on offense. Wall may have potential but has done nothing in the NBA yet. Meanwhile my PG put up 20-5-5 as a rookie joining Oscar, MJ and Lebron in that club. No question in my mind who's the best player out of Walls and Evans.

On a terrible team where he had issues with other players. 

And now, he has a teammate who quits on his team. 


Jefferson is a 20 and 10 PF. 

A 20 and 10 PF. 


And since we haven't seen Wall on the NBA court yet, we don't know who will be the better player.  It is very questionable. 


But my team has two 20 point scorers.  A true C. 

And lets be honest about the speed, the Lakers big men were not breaking any sprinting records out there.  What they did do, overwhelm those running teams on the boards.  My team has the size to do that. 


You still have two PFs that can't be successful C.  One of them will quit on you if you do not give him enough time.  The other one, is the better player.

[RebusRankin]

Its very questionable who's the better player? Right now Evans has proven himself, Walls has not. I'll give you that come April you may be right but right now you can't prove it.

Hibbert's slowness was a knock at Georgetown too.

Blatche's immaturity is a concern, I'll concede that. Right now I'll take the potential upside. Hey Pippen quit on his team too (not saying he's Pippen) just saying.

I concede the 2 20ppg scorers.

[nickagneta]

I was wondering when Rebus was going to pull out the 20-5-5 stat. That's a haymaker punch in this debate that landed solidly.

Advantage RR.