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Re: Bill Simmons-Rondo for Paul trade idea
« Reply #90 on: July 22, 2010, 04:06:06 PM »

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plus Rondo led the league in steals. Sorry, I love Paul's game but I would stick with rondo if it were up to me. Rondo just needs one more offseason with Mark Price to work on his free throws then we'll be all set.

Paul led the league in steals in 2008 and 2009, with higher averages than Rondo had this year.

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Re: Bill Simmons-Rondo for Paul trade idea
« Reply #91 on: July 22, 2010, 04:06:48 PM »

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Birdbrain, wanted to note that I respect your choice to stand for your opinion even though I disagree with it.

I like Chris Paul, you like Rajon Rondo, we both like Mikki Moore.  No hard feelings, chief.

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Re: Bill Simmons-Rondo for Paul trade idea
« Reply #92 on: July 22, 2010, 04:07:47 PM »

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plus Rondo led the league in steals. Sorry, I love Paul's game but I would stick with rondo if it were up to me. Rondo just needs one more offseason with Mark Price to work on his free throws then we'll be all set.

Paul led the league in steals in 2008 and 2009, with higher averages than Rondo had this year.

Who do you think is the more talented defender?
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Re: Bill Simmons-Rondo for Paul trade idea
« Reply #93 on: July 22, 2010, 04:12:33 PM »

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Chris Paul played 78 and 80 games the 2 seasons prior to this past one.

I don't think teams are that concerned with injury.  I could be wrong.

My personal opinion is that Rondo is the better defender but only very slightly and Paul's offensive prowess more than makes up for that gap.

Re: Bill Simmons-Rondo for Paul trade idea
« Reply #94 on: July 22, 2010, 04:13:44 PM »

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plus Rondo led the league in steals. Sorry, I love Paul's game but I would stick with rondo if it were up to me. Rondo just needs one more offseason with Mark Price to work on his free throws then we'll be all set.

Yep. Basically the entire league got Rondo'd, lol.



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Re: Bill Simmons-Rondo for Paul trade idea
« Reply #95 on: July 22, 2010, 04:40:03 PM »

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I think Danny will make overtones that he is considering trading Rondo, or that Rondo still has "growing" to do in his game.  Why?  Because this sort of thing fires up Rajon Rondo, and Danny knows that Rondo will come back a better player next year as a result.  Ultimately I'd be very surprised if Danny Ainge traded Rondo. 

Re: Bill Simmons-Rondo for Paul trade idea
« Reply #96 on: July 22, 2010, 04:44:26 PM »

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I think Danny will make overtones that he is considering trading Rondo, or that Rondo still has "growing" to do in his game.  Why?  Because this sort of thing fires up Rajon Rondo, and Danny knows that Rondo will come back a better player next year as a result.  Ultimately I'd be very surprised if Danny Ainge traded Rondo. 

  Rondo's come back a better player every season whether Danny's said anything about him or not.

Re: Bill Simmons-Rondo for Paul trade idea
« Reply #97 on: July 22, 2010, 04:50:35 PM »

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plus Rondo led the league in steals. Sorry, I love Paul's game but I would stick with rondo if it were up to me. Rondo just needs one more offseason with Mark Price to work on his free throws then we'll be all set.

Paul led the league in steals in 2008 and 2009, with higher averages than Rondo had this year.

Who do you think is the more talented defender?

I think they're about even.  However, if somebody is going to give credit to Rondo for steals, then they sort of have to for Paul as well, don't they?  Otherwise, it seems like cherry-picking.

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Re: Bill Simmons-Rondo for Paul trade idea
« Reply #98 on: July 22, 2010, 04:54:57 PM »

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I think Danny will make overtones that he is considering trading Rondo, or that Rondo still has "growing" to do in his game.  Why?  Because this sort of thing fires up Rajon Rondo, and Danny knows that Rondo will come back a better player next year as a result.  Ultimately I'd be very surprised if Danny Ainge traded Rondo. 

That's my interpretation of the situation as well and I believe the correct way to handle Rondo.  If he develops offensively a tad more and FT% increases his ceiling is higher than Paul's IMO.
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Re: Bill Simmons-Rondo for Paul trade idea
« Reply #99 on: July 22, 2010, 04:56:59 PM »

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Defensively Rondo is more disruptive.  Rondo is a better athlete too.  Paul has a better skillset and jumpshot.  Ideally, I would like to keep Rajon and trade Ray for him.

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« Reply #100 on: July 22, 2010, 05:02:42 PM »

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plus Rondo led the league in steals. Sorry, I love Paul's game but I would stick with rondo if it were up to me. Rondo just needs one more offseason with Mark Price to work on his free throws then we'll be all set.

Paul led the league in steals in 2008 and 2009, with higher averages than Rondo had this year.

Who do you think is the more talented defender?

I think they're about even.  However, if somebody is going to give credit to Rondo for steals, then they sort of have to for Paul as well, don't they?  Otherwise, it seems like cherry-picking.

I understand your point and I'm not with that steals=defense concept.  I think Rondo has more athletic ability, longer arms, and is much quicker.  BIGGER HANDS lol. Those things sans stats lead me to believe he's Paul superior with regards to defense.
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Re: Bill Simmons-Rondo for Paul trade idea
« Reply #101 on: July 22, 2010, 05:20:44 PM »

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I think Danny will make overtones that he is considering trading Rondo, or that Rondo still has "growing" to do in his game.  Why?  Because this sort of thing fires up Rajon Rondo, and Danny knows that Rondo will come back a better player next year as a result.  Ultimately I'd be very surprised if Danny Ainge traded Rondo. 

  Rondo's come back a better player every season whether Danny's said anything about him or not.

and i have a strong feeling that is not going to change. By the end of the regular season rondo will have a jumpshot.
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Re: Bill Simmons-Rondo for Paul trade idea
« Reply #102 on: July 22, 2010, 05:36:09 PM »

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Defensively Rondo is more disruptive.  Rondo is a better athlete too.  Paul has a better skillset and jumpshot.  Ideally, I would like to keep Rajon and trade Ray for him.
Pretty pointless. Rondo and Paul cannot play together.
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Re: Bill Simmons-Rondo for Paul trade idea
« Reply #103 on: July 22, 2010, 05:50:40 PM »

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plus Rondo led the league in steals. Sorry, I love Paul's game but I would stick with rondo if it were up to me. Rondo just needs one more offseason with Mark Price to work on his free throws then we'll be all set.

Paul led the league in steals in 2008 and 2009, with higher averages than Rondo had this year.

Who do you think is the more talented defender?

I think they're about even.  However, if somebody is going to give credit to Rondo for steals, then they sort of have to for Paul as well, don't they?  Otherwise, it seems like cherry-picking.

Who cares?

Iverson led the league in steals two straight seasons. Steals are a very overrated stat when it comes to actual defensive ability (kind of like fielding% in baseball).

Rondo is the best defensive PG in the league. Paul is not far behind.

But, Rondo can bother more shots and has years of this team's D under his belt.
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Re: Bill Simmons-Rondo for Paul trade idea
« Reply #104 on: July 22, 2010, 05:53:51 PM »

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I think Danny will make overtones that he is considering trading Rondo, or that Rondo still has "growing" to do in his game.  Why?  Because this sort of thing fires up Rajon Rondo, and Danny knows that Rondo will come back a better player next year as a result.  Ultimately I'd be very surprised if Danny Ainge traded Rondo. 

  Rondo's come back a better player every season whether Danny's said anything about him or not.

and i have a strong feeling that is not going to change. By the end of the regular season rondo will have a jumpshot.
His shooting hasn't improved for three years now. I wish I had faith that he'd be able to make a sudden leap forward this offseason.