Improve the Kings TP Contest Poll (VOTE!)

[Redz]

We need mo votes! Rock the vote kids!


2 more people vote and I'm calling it.

Can't believe people aren't more fired up about improving the Kings 

[Who]

Fun contest. Very interesting to cycle through all the trade ideas for another team.

[indeedproceed]

Fun contest. Very interesting to cycle through all the trade ideas for another team.

What do you think about my Rubio trade?

[Eja117]

Fun contest. Very interesting to cycle through all the trade ideas for another team.

What do you think about my Rubio trade?

If I'm Sacramento I don't do it without 100% assurance Rubio shows up and I don't think he will. Not to Sac town anyway

[Who]

Fun contest. Very interesting to cycle through all the trade ideas for another team.

What do you think about my Rubio trade?

Am I supposed to care about what Kings GM thinks or not in this contest?

Geoff Petrie keeps saying that he views Tyreke Evans as a point guard. That limited my interest in this deal.

I think the Minnesota Timberwolves would be very interested in a Kevin Martin for Rubio based trade. Martin would be fantastic in the Triangle offense too. Good trade for Minnesota.

[indeedproceed]

Fun contest. Very interesting to cycle through all the trade ideas for another team.

What do you think about my Rubio trade?

Am I supposed to care about what Kings GM thinks or not in this contest?

Geoff Petrie keeps saying that he views Tyreke Evans as a point guard. That limited my interest in this deal.

I think the Minnesota Timberwolves would be very interested in a Kevin Martin for Rubio based trade. Martin would be fantastic in the Triangle offense too. Good trade for Minnesota.

I thought it worked out well for both...Beno has been playing better and Tyreke has excelled at the 2...I wonder how effective he'll be at the 1 with Martin

[Who]

I really liked parts of Wiley's trade idea with the Oklahoma Thunder.

I think a perimeter orientated power forward, Jeff Green in this case, is very valuable for Sacramento. That type of player opens up the paint for Tyreke Evans, particularly for his post game but also for his dribble penetration. Helps their transition game too. It also frees up the Kings options when they go looking for their defensive minded center in the future (doesn't need to be able to shoot without taking away from Evans' game). Long term, I very much like having that type of power forward in the picture for Sacramento.

James Harden was also a nice pickup for the Kings. Still, Martin + 2010 first rounder seems a little steep. But I really liked that line of thinking for the Kings.

[Who]

Fun contest. Very interesting to cycle through all the trade ideas for another team.

What do you think about my Rubio trade?

Am I supposed to care about what Kings GM thinks or not in this contest?

Geoff Petrie keeps saying that he views Tyreke Evans as a point guard. That limited my interest in this deal.

I think the Minnesota Timberwolves would be very interested in a Kevin Martin for Rubio based trade. Martin would be fantastic in the Triangle offense too. Good trade for Minnesota.

I thought it worked out well for both...Beno has been playing better and Tyreke has excelled at the 2...I wonder how effective he'll be at the 1 with Martin

My thinking on it is that it's too early to pin down Tyreke's position. He's been up and down at the point when I've seen him there but he's shown great potential for the position so I feel pretty good about him there. But he's also been consistently spectacular at the two spot so he can definitely be an elite player at that spot.

I'd be reluctant to bring in a top point guard for the time being. I'd rather let it play some more and see if Evans can continue to improve at the point. The idea of a 6-6 point guard who can switch 1 through 4 defensively (especially if you pickup an athletic defensive PF + quick wings who can do likewise) and rebound the ball very well from the point is highly intriguing to say the least.

[BASS_THUMPER]

webber come out of  retirement and get bibby

[indeedproceed]

YES! We got an odd number of votes!

1st Place, and 40 Tommy Points:

wdleehi!

Kings trade Martin, Thomas, and Nocioni
    Receives Bosh, Butler and Blatche

Wiz trade Butler and Blatche
    Recieves Thomas (last year) and Banks (at least he is not Blatche)

Raptors trade Bosh and Banks
    Receives Martin and Nocioni

2nd Place (3-way tie), 20 TP's each

Tw1X990

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine
Sacramento Trades
Andres Nocioni
Kenny Thomas

To the Knicksfor
Eddy Curry
Danillo Gallinari

Why it goes down
Obvious for New York. They get 8 million more dollars of cap space this off season because of Kenny Thomas expiring contract. Sacramento gets rid of Nocioni who is absolutely not in there long term plans. Recieves another nice young piece in Gallinari, and Pays Eddy Curry to sit his ass on the bench until they can trade his expiring contract the year after. Cap Space will mean more to the Kings then.. they might just be in the playoff hunt next season.


This doesnt really fix the log jam the kings have of swingmen because Gallo is basically another 3, but its another talented youngin added to the roster. The trade also works with Jordan Hill.

IndeedProceed (that handsome devil)

Here is another trade that I really liked, but not nec for this year:

Sacramento Trades: Kevin Martin
Minnesota Trades: Brian Cardinal (expiring), Sasha Pavlovic (expiring), 2010 Utah FRP (attained from Phila, Protected 1-17 2010, 1-16 2011, 1-13 2012), Rights to Ricky Rubio

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yg3rwqd

Drucci

Here is my try : http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yawbsco 

The Kings send Kevin Martin, Francesco Garcia and Jason Thompson to the Wolves.
The Kings receive Al Jefferson, Ramon Sessions and Nathan Jawai.

Sacramento gets rid of two guards with a lot of talent but who are not necessary on the current squad (since the Kings are winning without both of them), and get the inside presence they have desperately been looking for.

Additionnally, they use Sessions as a PG and move Evans to the SG position.

They now have a starting lineup of Sessions/Evans/Casspi/Hawes/Jefferson and a bench of Udrih, Greene, Jawai and Brockman.

Not a really good bench but their starting lineup is pretty good.

And we can assume that Minnesota would agree to the trade because desperately need scorers at the guard and wing position. And because Kahn is stupid anyway.

And third place, for 10 Tommy Points each:

Edgar

Sacramento Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: +5.9 ppg, +2.1 rpg, and +2.0 apg.
Incoming Players
  Eddie House
6-1 PG from Arizona State
7.4 ppg, 1.3 rpg, 0.9 apg in 16.8 minutes 
  Tony Allen
6-4 SG from Oklahoma State
7.6 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 2.0 apg in 19.8 minutes 
  J.R. Giddens
6-5 SG from New Mexico
1.0 ppg, 0.7 rpg, 0.3 apg in 4.5 minutes 
Outgoing Players
  Andres Nocioni
6-7 SF from Argentina (Foreign)
10.1 ppg, 3.4 rpg, 1.2 apg in 22.8 minutes
 Boston Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: -5.9 ppg, -2.1 rpg, and -2.0 apg.
Incoming Players
  Andres Nocioni
6-7 SF from Argentina (Foreign)
10.1 ppg, 3.4 rpg, 1.2 apg in 22.8 minutes 
Outgoing Players
  Eddie House
6-1 PG from Arizona State
7.4 ppg, 1.3 rpg, 0.9 apg in 16.8 minutes
  Tony Allen
6-4 SG from Oklahoma State
7.6 ppg, 3.5 rpg, 2.0 apg in 19.8 minutes
  J.R. Giddens
6-5 SG from New Mexico
1.0 ppg, 0.7 rpg, 0.3 apg in 4.5 minutes
 

why for them
they get championchip experiences release contract
and get some defennse in tony allen and young legs in giddens
who now shows he can start in an NBA championship caliber team

why for Boston

Edgar likes Nocioni

ssspence

Trade a 2016 second round pick and cash for Hilton Armstrong --- NOT!!

Sorry, simple deal:

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yh3b8ew

Josh Howard and Jason Terry for Kevin Martin and Nocioni.

SAC needs a 1 who can shoot to play across from the ball handling 2 in Evans. Done. They get a legit 3 in Howard to join them (one who likes the northern California kind). Done. Udrih starts and Terry plays heavy minutes off the bench. Garcia backs up the 2/3 off the bench.

Dallas gets a great young two in Martin, and agrees to take on a solid vet in Noce to get him. He backs up Marion and Dirk.

[Tw1x990]

yayyy. Thanks for playing everyone. I'll take second place =]

[Drucci]

Tied for the second place, I didn't expect that much! Thanks for the contest.

[wdleehi]

Thanks to every one that voted for me and to IP for the brainchild of the contest. 

[Lucky17]

Thanks for the fun exercise, IP.

But where's my ham sandwich? Where I come from, DFL always gets a ham sandwich.