2009 Celticsblog Draft: Voting Analysis : Team of the Future

[Edgar]

10 crotors were picked
when Houston had like 5 players only

yes it will be tough to fight a fight
5 against 10

Grat Hill as 6th man is cool
we wanted as our 9th player

[indeedproceed]

I can understand why you wouldn't want too much quality veteran talent.

Having another valid expereinced starter on your team really didn't make much sense, no matter how unbelievably awesome he was.

[Edgar]

I can understand why you wouldn't want too much quality veteran talent.

Having another valid expereinced starter on your team really didn't make much sense, no matter how unbelievably awesome he was.

I am not saying we didnt want him
actually he picked him just a couple of turns before us

its just that the quality before a round before him was way better

[Edgar]

I can understand why you wouldn't want too much quality veteran talent.

Having another valid expereinced starter on your team really didn't make much sense, no matter how unbelievably awesome he was.

I am not saying we didnt want him
actually he picked him just a couple of turns before us

its just that the quality before a round before him was way better

p.s. Hill could play a Scal type of role in our crotornats
if u want me to put it that way

[The Walker Wiggle]

p.s. Hill could play a Scal type of role in our crotornats
if u want me to put it that way

Or he could fill in for Redd, Delonte, Manu, and Jermaine O'Neal when they're all DNP - Sore left ankle. Unfortunately I don't think he can cover for Shaq. 

[riah32]

Now I'm going to tell you why I picked the teams I did to move on the the ecf and wcf....

I think the fact that buffalo lost kelezia really hurts his squad. I think Seattle's depth is a little bit better and I also think there stars are a little bit younger with the exception of howard being younger then duncan. K-mart is a few years younger than jameson and Gordon is younger than ray ray. We all no what kinda of matchup that is for both teams.

Portland was my pick for the other semifinal because they have a ton of depth and dont have the problems at center like Houston does. Now if either of the Oneals get hurt then who knows what happens or even in ginobli gets hurt who knows. We have to assume they will be healthy and playing come playoff time.


Now on to the ecsemis:
I picked Philly over Orlando do to the fact that I think Okuour and Bynum can clog the lane enough to cause lebron to become enough of a jump shooter that philly could still 4 games in this series. Lebron could also try to hard to get to the basket like he has done a number of times which leaves his guys just stand around not moving. I also like phillys bench a little bit more than Orlando's. I also think Baron Davis could give Henrick fits if he becomes the old baron and not the one that played for the clippers and seem unmotavated, then again how do you stay motivated playing for the LA Clippers.

I choice Chicago over the Raptors because I feel chicagos starters are a little better then Torontos. Now this will probably come down to who gets more out of there becnch. I am also not sold on bellineli either, after all he did play in golden state where it seems every scores there evey night with the amount of scoring the do. I'm also not sure how Big Z will react to coming off the bench and how prodcutive he will be in cleveland this year playing behind Shaq...Not sure if we need to consider that but I did fwiw.

All in all I think there all pretty even matchups with the exception of the Houston vs Portland if Portland Oneals stay healthy and can play night in and night out.

[Rondo2287]

DONT VOTE FOR THE BIG NAMES AND HYPE VOTE FOR THE BETTER TEAM

Brief look at a possible Matchup with Chicago. 
I love my matchups on the frontline as well as my matchup of Artest and Bell, Bell cannot cover a bigger artest, its as simple as that.  And on the Defensive end I plan on matching up Garcia on Bell since Bell really is only a threat from the Perimeter and matching up Artest on Martin. 

Garnett vs Pau
Garnett leads 15-6
Ganett-24 ppg, 13.4 Rpg, 5.1 Ass, 1.3 ste, 1.8 blk
Gasol- 18 ppg, 8 rpb, 2.6 ass, .7 steals, 1.6 blk

Camby vs Horford
Camby leads 2-1
Camby 11 ppg, 13.3 rpg, 4.3 Ass, 1.7 st, 1.7 blk
Horford 11.3ppg, 8 rpg, 2.3 ass, 2.3 st, 1.0 blk

Artest Vs Bell
Artest leads 8-7
Artest 16 ppg, 6 rpg, 3 ass, 2.7 st, .7 blk
Bell 9.5 ppg, 3.3 rpg, 1.7 ass, .9 stl, .3 blk

Martin and Garcia never played eachother because they are on the same team. 

Paul vs Miller
Paul leads 3-5
Miller 19ppg, 4.6 rpg, 5.4 Ass, 1.1 stl, .3 blk
Paul   15 ppg, 5.4,    8.4 ass, 3.1 stl, .1 blk

So obviously chris Paul outclasses Miller with the Assists and Steals, but its not as much of a gap as people might think. 


But for An offensive powerhouse team, My team leads the PPG in the one on one matchups in 4 of the 5 starting spots.  A real testament to the Defense I have constructed here I believe. 

[Rondo2287]

To think that Toronto wont get more out of their bench is rediculous.  We have Big Z who will be coming off the bench in real life, Hakim Warrick, Michael finley, and Bellinelli.  All 4 of those guys averaged 10 ppg last year.  There isnt a single guy  on Chicagos bench better than any of those 4. 

Dont vote for the Big Names vote for DEFENSE AND THE BETTER TEAM

[Rondo2287]

Comparing Benches

Chicago- Ryan Anderson, Keith Bogans, Deshawn Stevenson, Hilton Armstrong

Toronto- Big Z, Hakim Warrick, Michael Finley, Marco Belinelli


Guys dont forget. We lost to Orlando because our big man rotation included Miki Moore.  Also Pietrus Carved up the Celtics off the bench.  Dont you see the same thing happening here?

[Rondo2287]

3/4 of those guys for Toronto will be starting In the NBA this year and one will play a major role off the bench for a Championship team. Hilton Armstrong may start on the Portland Red Claws, but thats it

[Kwhit10]

Philadelphia verse Orlando

While Orlando is the number one seed, this is just a fact of having LeBron James with decent surrounding players in the weakest division in the league (no other playoff teams).

Of course the main matchup in this series is the Melo vs. Bron.  Both these guys can score, and they'll get theirs. However, on defense Bron will also see a barage of Balkman and Brewer who have the size to both Bron all night.
For those who are interested ( http://www.82games.com/nichols1.htm ) Balkman is 3rd overall in Defensive Composite Score with a score of 99. (also for the record Okafor is 7th on the list at 98).

Outside of LeBron I don't see much on the Magics roster that would give our team any trouble.  We have the defensive wings to also bother Richardson all night as well.  I think Gasol verse Bynum is at worst a wash, with Bynums (14ppg, 8rpg) numbers being a little better than Gasols (12ppg 7rpg).
While Villanueva can hang around the perimeter, that's pretty much all he does.  I don't have any doubt that the weakside defense of Okafor will be enough to bother who may be driving the lane.  Driving will not be an easy feat, Bynum and Okafor are great shot blockers and have the bodies to play post up D.

 I think we hold the advantage at the PG position.  Davis has 25lbs on Hinrich and I can see him muscling him around and posting him up.  While Hinrich is decent defender Davis is no slouch either. Hinrich can do some small things but I don't think he's much of a starter. In 30 minutes against the Clips last season Hinrich had 2 points on 25% shooting.

With Villanueva in the game I can see our team attacking the post and driving the lane when the oppurtunity is there. 

Although Orlando has a good frontcourt bench help, I don't see anything else that can come in and score the points needed to help LeBron.  This is a team game and I don't think LeBron will be able to do it by himself.

Again I think we have a very balanced team.  We can have a nice halfcourt offense with our good front court and we can also bring in Tim Thomas to spread the floor at the PF spot and let Melo do his thing.  While Brewer can drive, which he is excellent at.  So please consider VOTING PHILADELPHIA.  Don't be fooled by Orlandos #1 seed... That is just a manifestation of being in the weakest division in the CBNBA.

[Fafnir]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTmRMg84PPk

(Sort of embarrassing for Bosh.)

That video shows why Portland would win the series. Shaq will be able to do that forcing hard doubles or fronts. Totally messing up the team's defensive strategy. There isn't an advantage that they have to overcome the massive whole at Center.

You can't just do it with talent in the NBA, you need size and strength.

[Roy Hobbs]

Here's how I see things right now:

Buffalo vs. Seattle

Buffalo Braves (Rebus Rankin)- Dwight Howard, Ray Allen, Antawn Jamison, Al Thornton, Chris Duhon, Zaza Pachulia, Quentin Richardson, Sergio Rodriguez, Brian Skinner, James Jones

Seattle Supersonics (Hoyo de Monterray)- Tim Duncan, Ben Gordon, Thaddeus Young, Kenyon Martin, TJ Ford, Brandon Bass, Jerryd Bayless, Corey Brewer, Dahntay Jones, Theo Ratliff, Antonio Daniels, Brent Barry, Patrick O'Bryant, Malik Rose

These are two excellent teams, both of whom are top-three in the West (despite Seattle's #4 seeding).

The strength of both teams is in their starting lineups, as both teams suffer from a pretty weak bench.  Brandon Bass is probably the best bench player on either team, but really, it could go either way here.

Here's how I see the starting matchups going:

Kenyon Martin vs. Dwight Howard:  Howard definitely wins this matchup, but in "real life", Denver's defense has definitely slowed him down offensively.  Rebounding, it's been another story.  Advantage:  Buffalo

Tim Duncan vs. Antwan Jamison:  Much like the matchup above, Duncan wins this one, but not by a huge margin.  Advantage: Seattle

Al Thornton vs. Thad Young:  I think this is about a push, although I think Young can continue to develop.  Head to Head, though, Thornton has had the advantage thus far.  Still, I call it, Advantage:  Push

Ben Gordon vs. Ray Allen:  This one's the great debate, right?  They're both excellent scorers, they both hit clutch shots, and they both give each other fits.  In the playoffs, Gordon was the more consistent player.  Still, I say Advantage:  Push

T.J. Ford vs. Chris Duhon:  Before looking at the numbers, I figured this would be a big advantage for Ford.  It's not.  Ford has gotten slightly more points and assists, Duhon has shot a higher percentage.  Advantage:  Seattle, slightly.

I think these starting lineups are remarkably even, as well.  I'm predicting this game goes 7 games, with probably an overtime or two sprinkled in there somewhere.

Who wins?  I think Seattle's offense is slightly more versatile, and I don't think Buffalo will be able to exploit the weakness of T.J. Ford's defense as well as some other teams could.

In a very, very close one, I'm leaning toward Seattle, in seven.

 

[Rondo2287]

Wow after you voted Chicago to lose to Detroit Yesterday Huh?? At least you are consistant

[Roy Hobbs]

I don't have time to do Orlando vs. Philly right now, but that one is very, very close, as well.  Preliminarily, I'm thinking Philly in 7.  Tell me why I'm wrong, G.C. / Lucky.