2009 Celticsblog Draft: Voting Analysis : Team of the Future

[Roy Hobbs]

What if Buffalo loses the #1 seed by one point, because they didn't vote for themselves? Reminds me of the movie "Election." Great movie btw.

I think he's got the #1 seed wrapped up, but honestly, I think most teams would prefer the #2 seed going into the playoffs, just due to matchups.  Not to look too far ahead, but the #1 seed has a harder road to the Finals, I think.

[indeedproceed]

Dude again I dont have anything against your team but to say, "I dont see a big there." when their best big had a statistically better year than yours, and then to say things like "What has Chris Bosh done in Toronto?"  You just need to be able to back up your statements and not throw out statements against other teams that really arent based on anything, because its not fair to the other GM's

Who is houstons starting pf or center....same gray area is mine they have non and there bac-up there are the same question marks.

They have "a same question mark", which we have all lambasted them for. Search "anthony randolph", "overrated" and "hype" by used wdleehi or indeedproceed.

see what you find.

better yet, search "anthony randolph" and "marcus banks" by indeedproceed, and see what you find.

And yes the have the same question mark but to compare Thompson to Bosh and then say that they need as good a backup as you do isnt fair.  Not that there is anything wrong with Thompson but he isnt at Bosh's level yet.  Bosh is an elite player in this league, therefor he doesnt need a great backup. But i agree his backups arent that great, and people have called him on it

Yea but craig smith and or thabeet are better than anthony randolf or anyone else he throws at the 4 or 5 to finish of his roation.

I'll give you nocioni is better than any of my backups now because my rookies havent proven anything but I'll im asking is to given them a chance before you shoot them down. Nevermind what you hear from wherever you hear things and vote with your heart not someone elses opinion

Golden State in real life wouldn't trade ANthony Randolph for Craig Smith and 1st rounder. He's got more potential than either player and he's probably more skilled then  them right now.

Not more skilled than thompson, but more skilled than Smith and Thabeet.

So your telling me next year if the clippers offered craig smith and there first round pick which will say is picks 1 2 or 3 for randolph you say golden state says no thanks??

meh....it will depend on what Randolph does in the coming year.

I do think that if the clippers offered smith adn next year's 1st, that GSW says no right now.

[Rondo2287]

Dude again I dont have anything against your team but to say, "I dont see a big there." when their best big had a statistically better year than yours, and then to say things like "What has Chris Bosh done in Toronto?"  You just need to be able to back up your statements and not throw out statements against other teams that really arent based on anything, because its not fair to the other GM's

Who is houstons starting pf or center....same gray area is mine they have non and there bac-up there are the same question marks.

They have "a same question mark", which we have all lambasted them for. Search "anthony randolph", "overrated" and "hype" by used wdleehi or indeedproceed.

see what you find.

better yet, search "anthony randolph" and "marcus banks" by indeedproceed, and see what you find.

And yes the have the same question mark but to compare Thompson to Bosh and then say that they need as good a backup as you do isnt fair.  Not that there is anything wrong with Thompson but he isnt at Bosh's level yet.  Bosh is an elite player in this league, therefor he doesnt need a great backup. But i agree his backups arent that great, and people have called him on it

Yea but craig smith and or thabeet are better than anthony randolf or anyone else he throws at the 4 or 5 to finish of his roation.

I'll give you nocioni is better than any of my backups now because my rookies havent proven anything but I'll im asking is to given them a chance before you shoot them down. Nevermind what you hear from wherever you hear things and vote with your heart not someone elses opinion

Listen man we havent seen any of them play in the NBA.  Im not trying to cut their legs out from under them but I cant in good conscience vote them over players that have proven themselves in the NBA just to give your rookies a chance.  That is what we have the midway point vote for.

And Im not trying to vote with my heart. I wasnt at those summer league games where Thabeet missed 4 dunks but those writers were, I have to take their word for it, and doing anything less would be doing a disservice to the rest of the players in this league.  

[riah32]

Dude again I dont have anything against your team but to say, "I dont see a big there." when their best big had a statistically better year than yours, and then to say things like "What has Chris Bosh done in Toronto?"  You just need to be able to back up your statements and not throw out statements against other teams that really arent based on anything, because its not fair to the other GM's

Who is houstons starting pf or center....same gray area is mine they have non and there bac-up there are the same question marks.

They have "a same question mark", which we have all lambasted them for. Search "anthony randolph", "overrated" and "hype" by used wdleehi or indeedproceed.

see what you find.

better yet, search "anthony randolph" and "marcus banks" by indeedproceed, and see what you find.

And yes the have the same question mark but to compare Thompson to Bosh and then say that they need as good a backup as you do isnt fair.  Not that there is anything wrong with Thompson but he isnt at Bosh's level yet.  Bosh is an elite player in this league, therefor he doesnt need a great backup. But i agree his backups arent that great, and people have called him on it

Yea but craig smith and or thabeet are better than anthony randolf or anyone else he throws at the 4 or 5 to finish of his roation.

I'll give you nocioni is better than any of my backups now because my rookies havent proven anything but I'll im asking is to given them a chance before you shoot them down. Nevermind what you hear from wherever you hear things and vote with your heart not someone elses opinion

Golden State in real life wouldn't trade ANthony Randolph for Craig Smith and 1st rounder. He's got more potential than either player and he's probably more skilled then  them right now.

Not more skilled than thompson, but more skilled than Smith and Thabeet.

So your telling me next year if the clippers offered craig smith and there first round pick which will say is picks 1 2 or 3 for randolph you say golden state says no thanks??

meh....it will depend on what Randolph does in the coming year.

I do think that if the clippers offered smith adn next year's 1st, that GSW says no right now.

Yea you might be right there if it was offered now but if come draft time and LA ends up with 1,2,or 3 and randolph has a terrible year then what?

[Evantime34]

I just wanted to make some points.
1 My Team,
a. The people who didn't vote me in the playoffs say Nash and Boozer are defensive liabilities, well do people remember how the Warriors play? We score a lot. I think Nash might be but Boozer is not a liability anyway.
b. You have to look at my bench. For what I am doing, again scoring a lot they are perfect. I have 40%+ three point shooters at every position, I have young guys who can get up and down the floor at almost every position.

IF anyone hasn't voted yet and is not sure what to think about my team please send me a PM so that I can offer them my thoughts and I can allay their doubts about my team.

[indeedproceed]

Dude again I dont have anything against your team but to say, "I dont see a big there." when their best big had a statistically better year than yours, and then to say things like "What has Chris Bosh done in Toronto?"  You just need to be able to back up your statements and not throw out statements against other teams that really arent based on anything, because its not fair to the other GM's

Who is houstons starting pf or center....same gray area is mine they have non and there bac-up there are the same question marks.

They have "a same question mark", which we have all lambasted them for. Search "anthony randolph", "overrated" and "hype" by used wdleehi or indeedproceed.

see what you find.

better yet, search "anthony randolph" and "marcus banks" by indeedproceed, and see what you find.

And yes the have the same question mark but to compare Thompson to Bosh and then say that they need as good a backup as you do isnt fair.  Not that there is anything wrong with Thompson but he isnt at Bosh's level yet.  Bosh is an elite player in this league, therefor he doesnt need a great backup. But i agree his backups arent that great, and people have called him on it

Yea but craig smith and or thabeet are better than anthony randolf or anyone else he throws at the 4 or 5 to finish of his roation.

I'll give you nocioni is better than any of my backups now because my rookies havent proven anything but I'll im asking is to given them a chance before you shoot them down. Nevermind what you hear from wherever you hear things and vote with your heart not someone elses opinion

Golden State in real life wouldn't trade ANthony Randolph for Craig Smith and 1st rounder. He's got more potential than either player and he's probably more skilled then  them right now.

Not more skilled than thompson, but more skilled than Smith and Thabeet.

So your telling me next year if the clippers offered craig smith and there first round pick which will say is picks 1 2 or 3 for randolph you say golden state says no thanks??

meh....it will depend on what Randolph does in the coming year.

I do think that if the clippers offered smith adn next year's 1st, that GSW says no right now.

Yea you might be right there if it was offered now but if come draft time and LA ends up with 1,2,or 3 and randolph has a terrible year then what?

well obviously they take it, but they're not taking it because Craig Smith is good, they're taking it because they're no longer as high on anthony Randolph.

[riah32]

Dude again I dont have anything against your team but to say, "I dont see a big there." when their best big had a statistically better year than yours, and then to say things like "What has Chris Bosh done in Toronto?"  You just need to be able to back up your statements and not throw out statements against other teams that really arent based on anything, because its not fair to the other GM's

Who is houstons starting pf or center....same gray area is mine they have non and there bac-up there are the same question marks.

They have "a same question mark", which we have all lambasted them for. Search "anthony randolph", "overrated" and "hype" by used wdleehi or indeedproceed.

see what you find.

better yet, search "anthony randolph" and "marcus banks" by indeedproceed, and see what you find.

And yes the have the same question mark but to compare Thompson to Bosh and then say that they need as good a backup as you do isnt fair.  Not that there is anything wrong with Thompson but he isnt at Bosh's level yet.  Bosh is an elite player in this league, therefor he doesnt need a great backup. But i agree his backups arent that great, and people have called him on it

Yea but craig smith and or thabeet are better than anthony randolf or anyone else he throws at the 4 or 5 to finish of his roation.

I'll give you nocioni is better than any of my backups now because my rookies havent proven anything but I'll im asking is to given them a chance before you shoot them down. Nevermind what you hear from wherever you hear things and vote with your heart not someone elses opinion

Listen man we havent seen any of them play in the NBA.  Im not trying to cut their legs out from under them but I cant in good conscience vote them over players that have proven themselves in the NBA just to give your rookies a chance.  That is what we have the midway point vote for.

And Im not trying to vote with my heart. I wasnt at those summer league games where Thabeet missed 4 dunks but those writers were, I have to take their word for it, and doing anything less would be doing a disservice to the rest of the players in this league.  

I guess desmond mason hasnt proven much....I guess craig smith hasnt proven much....and I guess as bad as his even though he start some games from new orleans Sean Marks hasnt porven much either?? I also think Brian Cook isnt get enough respect either>

[indeedproceed]

come on tradetime lets hear it!

[Roy Hobbs]

come on tradetime lets hear it!

Bring it!  BRING IT!!!

[KCattheStripe]

15.Memphis

I cannot fathom how I'm last. Same goes for Maestro.

I didn't even see that.

THat is ridiculous.

Is it so? More than one time has Memphis last.

Memphis, and I have said this in this thread and others, will get out rebounded on a nightly basis because they have one decent rebounder on the whole team. For that reason, they will not be a good team.

Thats ridiculous to qualify it by that metric alone. The 2006 Dallas Mavericks were not a good rebounding team, they made the finals. neither were any of the Phoenix teams.

[Rondo2287]

Dude again I dont have anything against your team but to say, "I dont see a big there." when their best big had a statistically better year than yours, and then to say things like "What has Chris Bosh done in Toronto?"  You just need to be able to back up your statements and not throw out statements against other teams that really arent based on anything, because its not fair to the other GM's

Who is houstons starting pf or center....same gray area is mine they have non and there bac-up there are the same question marks.

They have "a same question mark", which we have all lambasted them for. Search "anthony randolph", "overrated" and "hype" by used wdleehi or indeedproceed.

see what you find.

better yet, search "anthony randolph" and "marcus banks" by indeedproceed, and see what you find.

And yes the have the same question mark but to compare Thompson to Bosh and then say that they need as good a backup as you do isnt fair.  Not that there is anything wrong with Thompson but he isnt at Bosh's level yet.  Bosh is an elite player in this league, therefor he doesnt need a great backup. But i agree his backups arent that great, and people have called him on it

Yea but craig smith and or thabeet are better than anthony randolf or anyone else he throws at the 4 or 5 to finish of his roation.

I'll give you nocioni is better than any of my backups now because my rookies havent proven anything but I'll im asking is to given them a chance before you shoot them down. Nevermind what you hear from wherever you hear things and vote with your heart not someone elses opinion

Listen man we havent seen any of them play in the NBA.  Im not trying to cut their legs out from under them but I cant in good conscience vote them over players that have proven themselves in the NBA just to give your rookies a chance.  That is what we have the midway point vote for.

And Im not trying to vote with my heart. I wasnt at those summer league games where Thabeet missed 4 dunks but those writers were, I have to take their word for it, and doing anything less would be doing a disservice to the rest of the players in this league.  

I guess desmond mason hasnt proven much....I guess craig smith hasnt proven much....and I guess as bad as his even though he start some games from new orleans Sean Marks hasnt porven much either?? I also think Brian Cook isnt get enough respect either>

Those guys have proven stuff, Marks has proven he can average 3points and 3 rebounds in an NBA game.  Listen Im not taking anything away from smith, nobody is a bigger BC fan and Smith fan than I am, but Mason is coming off a year in which he had a serious injury, and Brian Cook again averaged 3 points and 1.3 rebounds last year.  

[riah32]

K I guess your right smith is a prett lousy to have off the bench:

[Rondo2287]

I said im not taking anything away from smith, Nobody is a bigger BC fan and Smith fan than I am and as a clippers fan as well I was thrilled that they got him.  But that being said since he is undersized and you have a good PF he wont be that great a fit for your team. You needed a 7 footer with his stats

[KCattheStripe]

As God as my witness I cannot see a scenario in which San Antonio is a 3rd seed and I'm the 13th best team.

[indeedproceed]

K I guess your right smith is a prett lousy to have off the bench:

my biggest problem with smith is that he's too slow to defend faster players (almost all PF's), and too short to defend much taller players (all C's). On top of that he only rebound at a rate of 9.3 boards per 48 mins, which to put it in context, which to put in context is .1 better than Darius Miles and .2 worse than Mark Blount.