Official:-Spears Confirms Marquis coming to Boston (merged)

[Hoyo de Monterrey]

I know this is a deal worth making, and I'm glad they are doing it. On paper it makes a lot of sense, especially given Walker's injury history. Pruitt and Allen don't worry me at all leaving.

I just can't help but think Bill Walker didn't get enough of a shot to see what he could do here. I would have liked to see more, but if this deal is a possibility, fond farewell to Walker, forgettable goodbye to Pruitt, and get the hell out of here to Tony.

[LarBrd33]

Daniels is kinda mediocre at best, right?  I'm not terribly excited about it.

[Fafnir]

Daniels is kinda mediocre at best, right?  I'm not terribly excited about it.

Well most backups are pretty mediocre, we didn't even have a backup last year....

[crownsy]

Daniels is kinda mediocre at best, right?  I'm not terribly excited about it.

thats why he's going to be our backup, and not our 6th man.

all star backups are few and far between, ya know?

[Birdbrain]

I'm glad everyone is so sure that Walker has no future.  That makes me feel better about the trade if true.

I've always like Daniels as a bench player but, his injury history would make Tony Allen seem durable.

[Evantime34]

I'm glad everyone is so sure that Walker has no future.  That makes me feel better about the trade if true.

I've always like Daniels as a bench player but, his injury history would make Tony Allen seem durable.

As someone said earlier it makes me very nervous that this will be a repeat of the Rodney Rodgers trade when we traded Johnson and kept Kedrick (Walker is Johnson and Giddens is Kedrick in this scenario). Then again if we can sign some good players to the vet min to fill out our bench I'm ok with that.

[help D]

Walker/Giddens v. JJohnson/KBrown is not a fair comparison given their positions in the draft. Even if KB was WAAAY overinflated where we picked him, both Giddens and Walker were drafted late enough to be relatively risk-free to deal. Plus, Daniels is not here on a 1 yr. contract (or less in Rodger's case) and will be able to contribute for at least two years.

Let's get this done, Danny! Anxious to see the next step, but this one looks like gold to me.

[JHTruth]

Well no word yet. I have no problem giving up Pruitt and Allen. Both are scrubs who will be out of the league within two years.

Walker vs. Giddens could be dicey however. I'd rather send Walker I suppose..

Daniels will be a very solid bench player for us..

[crownsy]

I'm glad everyone is so sure that Walker has no future.  That makes me feel better about the trade if true.

I've always like Daniels as a bench player but, his injury history would make Tony Allen seem durable.

I dont think its so much that people think walker will be a failure, but the recognize that we don't need projects right now.

Hindsight is always 20/20, if walker turns out to be a very good player, then obviously some will hate the celtics for this trade. but right now we need guys who can play, not guys who are still stumbling in the NBA summer league.

[meesho33]

According to Chad Ford, the Celtics are trading Walker, Pruitt, and Allen.  Ouch.  Hope we are getting another young player in return besides Daniels.

Ouch for the Pacers?

that was my thought as well, We're trading 2 serviceable at best rotation players and a kid who's only accomplishments so far include "i can dunk real good"

for a proven backup at two positions we desperately need. Anything else for that deal would be pure gravy from the celtics standpoint.

this is so funny! since when is daniels anything more than a serviceable rotation guy?? he's a poor outside shooter and an average, at best, defender. what we need is a big wing who can shoot and play above average perimeter d. he does neither of those well.

not saying TA is great at either of those things, but he is AT LEAST as good as daniels by himself...and they're both injury risks. then we have to throw in two good young players to boot?? doesn't make sense.

you can downplay it all you want, but if you dont think walker showed real promise in the VERY limited minutes he got as a rook, you need to reevaluate your player evaluation

i think people are overvaluing  daniels because of the one good season he had during a year which dallas was on tv every other night. go look at his career stats vs. TA...pretty much the same guy, except no one has ever questioned TA's effort on the court.

in the end, i am all for a daniels signing or a sign and trade with TA and pruitt, but throwing in walker or giddens is too much.

[rrc589]

I don't understand how a lot of people here are so quick to package Walker in a deal and keep Giddens. We haven't even seen Giddens play any real NBA minutes. Oops, sorry, he's played a total of 8 minutes in 6 total NBA games. How is this guy ahead of Walker again?

I know the front office (Danny?) has stated Giddens is now at the same level as Walker, but is he really? Even if this is the case, what makes you so sure Giddens is the guy we want to keep? From what I've seen of both player, I personally don't think Giddens has that fearless killer instinct attitude that Walker has. If you're a young player on this team -- you have to have that type of attitude. I'm not sure Giddens has it yet, and I don't see how he could all of a sudden get it over the summer.

[Edgar]

According to Chad Ford, the Celtics are trading Walker, Pruitt, and Allen.  Ouch.  Hope we are getting another young player in return besides Daniels.

Ouch for the Pacers?

that was my thought as well, We're trading 2 serviceable at best rotation players and a kid who's only accomplishments so far include "i can dunk real good"

for a proven backup at two positions we desperately need. Anything else for that deal would be pure gravy from the celtics standpoint.

this is so funny! since when is daniels anything more than a serviceable rotation guy?? he's a poor outside shooter and an average, at best, defender. what we need is a big wing who can shoot and play above average perimeter d. he does neither of those well.

not saying TA is great at either of those things, but he is AT LEAST as good as daniels by himself...and they're both injury risks. then we have to throw in two good young players to boot?? doesn't make sense.

you can downplay it all you want, but if you dont think walker showed real promise in the VERY limited minutes he got as a rook, you need to reevaluate your player evaluation

i think people are overvaluing  daniels because of the one good season he had during a year which dallas was on tv every other night. go look at his career stats vs. TA...pretty much the same guy, except no one has ever questioned TA's effort on the court.

in the end, i am all for a daniels signing or a sign and trade with TA and pruitt, but throwing in walker or giddens is too much.

we need to open space on the roster and youngings are not going to play anyway
and daniels can give you more without using 3 chairs and towels

[crownsy]

I don't understand how a lot of people here are so quick to package Walker in a deal and keep Giddens. We haven't even seen Giddens play real NBA minutes.

I know the front office (Danny?) has stated Giddens is now at the same level as Walker, but is he really? Even if this is the case, what makes you so sure Giddens is the guy we want to keep? From what I've seen of both player, I personally don't think Giddens has that fearless killer instinct attitude that Walker has. If you're a young player on this team -- you have to have that type of attitude. I'm not sure Giddens has it yet, and I don't see how he could all of a sudden get it over the summer.

what level exactly was walker at last year?

I mean, i like the kid, i hope he does extremely well, but all we saw in limited minutes last year was that.

1. he can dunk
2. he sure misses alot of defensive assignments
3. he can dunk

He didn't even get enough minutes to show any other aspects of his game....If JR has picked up on the defensive rotations, he's ahead of bill.

[crownsy]

According to Chad Ford, the Celtics are trading Walker, Pruitt, and Allen.  Ouch.  Hope we are getting another young player in return besides Daniels.

Ouch for the Pacers?

that was my thought as well, We're trading 2 serviceable at best rotation players and a kid who's only accomplishments so far include "i can dunk real good"

for a proven backup at two positions we desperately need. Anything else for that deal would be pure gravy from the celtics standpoint.

this is so funny! since when is daniels anything more than a serviceable rotation guy?? he's a poor outside shooter and an average, at best, defender. what we need is a big wing who can shoot and play above average perimeter d. he does neither of those well.

not saying TA is great at either of those things, but he is AT LEAST as good as daniels by himself...and they're both injury risks. then we have to throw in two good young players to boot?? doesn't make sense.

you can downplay it all you want, but if you dont think walker showed real promise in the VERY limited minutes he got as a rook, you need to reevaluate your player evaluation

i think people are overvaluing  daniels because of the one good season he had during a year which dallas was on tv every other night. go look at his career stats vs. TA...pretty much the same guy, except no one has ever questioned TA's effort on the court.

in the end, i am all for a daniels signing or a sign and trade with TA and pruitt, but throwing in walker or giddens is too much.

you seriously overrate tony allen if you believe this is true.

and what did walker show? that he can do flashy dunks. weeeeee.

 so did gerald green and tony allen when they first started, and i had to be subjected to how they are the second coming despite their obvious flaws. How's that working out for the two of them?

I saw walker, he looks like a good slasher, he can dunk really, really well.

but what i also saw in his limited minutes was that he had no clue what to do once the defense went to rotate. when he was one on one with his man, he was decent. the minute his man went in motion and switches were involved, he was in trouble.

He also had limited handle, and shot poorly, when he bothered to take a jumper.

[Fafnir]

I'm glad everyone is so sure that Walker has no future.  That makes me feel better about the trade if true.

I've always like Daniels as a bench player but, his injury history would make Tony Allen seem durable.

I dont think its so much that people think walker will be a failure, but the recognize that we don't need projects right now.

Hindsight is always 20/20, if walker turns out to be a very good player, then obviously some will hate the celtics for this trade. but right now we need guys who can play, not guys who are still stumbling in the NBA summer league.

Joe Johnson and Kendrick were both drafted much higher than Walker/Giddens. Both probably had more talent/potential, but it was the right move to make at the time for the C's.

Sometimes playing for this year costs you down the road.