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Re: NBA Season 2026-27
« Reply #375 on: Yesterday at 07:32:08 AM »

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I haven't followed Zion (outside of basketball) much, but I kinda feel like he's cancer and lazy. If my perception is wrong, then more than welcome, but otherwise I'd avoid. Always has health issues too. He's barely played at all in his 6 years in the league... and that's as a younger dude. Not sure how his health is sustainable or just had a lot of freak bad luck.

Not even sure who'd we part with to make it happen for it to make sense.

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« Reply #376 on: Yesterday at 10:22:18 AM »

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I haven't followed Zion (outside of basketball) much, but I kinda feel like he's cancer and lazy. If my perception is wrong, then more than welcome, but otherwise I'd avoid. Always has health issues too. He's barely played at all in his 6 years in the league... and that's as a younger dude. Not sure how his health is sustainable or just had a lot of freak bad luck.

Not even sure who'd we part with to make it happen for it to make sense.

There have never been reports that Zion was a cancer in any locker room. He was lazy/out of shape  earlier in his career, but turned things around the last year or so. Lost almost 70lbs and played in 60+ games last season.
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Re: NBA Season 2026-27
« Reply #377 on: Yesterday at 10:24:21 AM »

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Big win for MIA with Giannis and Adebayo both scoring 37 pts (74 pts combined).  The conventional wisdom, including my own, has been that these two are a bad fit.  I have thought that they will figure it out to some extent and play better than it has looked to start.  I was curious so did some stat diving:

                                                 Last        Season
Giannis without Adebayo              -11           -66
Adebayo without Giannis             +10           -90
Giannis with Adebayo                  +13           +2

Last game, they did well with them both on the floor and on the season, I was surprised by how well they do together relative to how they do when it is only one one of them on the floor.  This data does not support the "they are not a good fit together" theory.  I am not sure how to explain it.  Portis seems like the main 3rd big:

                                                  Season
Portis + Adebayo                            +14
Portis + Giannis                              +3

Giannis wo Adebayo or Portis           -69
Adebayo wo Giannis or Portis          -102
Portis wo Giannis or Adebayo          +55

The second set of data shows that Adebayo and Giannis are fine with Portis, but not so much when it is just Giannis or just Adebayo.  They are also fine when Portis is playing without Giannis or Adebayo.

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« Reply #378 on: Yesterday at 12:24:06 PM »

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Big win for MIA with Giannis and Adebayo both scoring 37 pts (74 pts combined).  The conventional wisdom, including my own, has been that these two are a bad fit.  I have thought that they will figure it out to some extent and play better than it has looked to start.  I was curious so did some stat diving:

                                                 Last        Season
Giannis without Adebayo              -11           -66
Adebayo without Giannis             +10           -90
Giannis with Adebayo                  +13           +2

Last game, they did well with them both on the floor and on the season, I was surprised by how well they do together relative to how they do when it is only one one of them on the floor.  This data does not support the "they are not a good fit together" theory.  I am not sure how to explain it.  Portis seems like the main 3rd big:

                                                  Season
Portis + Adebayo                            +14
Portis + Giannis                              +3

Giannis wo Adebayo or Portis           -69
Adebayo wo Giannis or Portis          -102
Portis wo Giannis or Adebayo          +55

The second set of data shows that Adebayo and Giannis are fine with Portis, but not so much when it is just Giannis or just Adebayo.  They are also fine when Portis is playing without Giannis or Adebayo.

Meh just some meh Cavs team. Guess we can tip our hats to them for one good game

See I think Portis would have been a good addition off the bench had Brad pulled that trigger over the summer. Provides that extra spark. Just don't know what's special about Hugo and Baylor; they both been garbage.


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« Reply #379 on: Yesterday at 01:08:08 PM »

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Big win for MIA with Giannis and Adebayo both scoring 37 pts (74 pts combined).  The conventional wisdom, including my own, has been that these two are a bad fit.  I have thought that they will figure it out to some extent and play better than it has looked to start.  I was curious so did some stat diving:

                                                 Last        Season
Giannis without Adebayo              -11           -66
Adebayo without Giannis             +10           -90
Giannis with Adebayo                  +13           +2

Last game, they did well with them both on the floor and on the season, I was surprised by how well they do together relative to how they do when it is only one one of them on the floor.  This data does not support the "they are not a good fit together" theory.  I am not sure how to explain it.  Portis seems like the main 3rd big:

                                                  Season
Portis + Adebayo                            +14
Portis + Giannis                              +3

Giannis wo Adebayo or Portis           -69
Adebayo wo Giannis or Portis          -102
Portis wo Giannis or Adebayo          +55

The second set of data shows that Adebayo and Giannis are fine with Portis, but not so much when it is just Giannis or just Adebayo.  They are also fine when Portis is playing without Giannis or Adebayo.

Meh just some meh Cavs team. Guess we can tip our hats to them for one good game

See I think Portis would have been a good addition off the bench had Brad pulled that trigger over the summer. Provides that extra spark. Just don't know what's special about Hugo and Baylor; they both been garbage.

Maybe you are getting a little carried away...
Ok, granted Hugo has not lived up to the hype we heard over the summer, although he is still only 20 years old.

However, I think Baylor is having a pretty decent year and getting better, especially with his extra minutes and finishing games...20min, 6.1pts,4.0reb,1.4asts,.8stls and shooting 47.2% from 3 and 100% FT%, not all-star but not garbage.  Also, his shooting efficiency is better than PG,DWhite,PP, and JT...not too shabby.
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Re: NBA Season 2026-27
« Reply #380 on: Yesterday at 01:40:05 PM »

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Big win for MIA with Giannis and Adebayo both scoring 37 pts (74 pts combined).  The conventional wisdom, including my own, has been that these two are a bad fit.  I have thought that they will figure it out to some extent and play better than it has looked to start.  I was curious so did some stat diving:

                                                 Last        Season
Giannis without Adebayo              -11           -66
Adebayo without Giannis             +10           -90
Giannis with Adebayo                  +13           +2

Last game, they did well with them both on the floor and on the season, I was surprised by how well they do together relative to how they do when it is only one one of them on the floor.  This data does not support the "they are not a good fit together" theory.  I am not sure how to explain it.  Portis seems like the main 3rd big:

                                                  Season
Portis + Adebayo                            +14
Portis + Giannis                              +3

Giannis wo Adebayo or Portis           -69
Adebayo wo Giannis or Portis          -102
Portis wo Giannis or Adebayo          +55

The second set of data shows that Adebayo and Giannis are fine with Portis, but not so much when it is just Giannis or just Adebayo.  They are also fine when Portis is playing without Giannis or Adebayo.

Meh just some meh Cavs team. Guess we can tip our hats to them for one good game

See I think Portis would have been a good addition off the bench had Brad pulled that trigger over the summer. Provides that extra spark. Just don't know what's special about Hugo and Baylor; they both been garbage.

Maybe you are getting a little carried away...
Ok, granted Hugo has not lived up to the hype we heard over the summer, although he is still only 20 years old.

However, I think Baylor is having a pretty decent year and getting better, especially with his extra minutes and finishing games...20min, 6.1pts,4.0reb,1.4asts,.8stls and shooting 47.2% from 3 and 100% FT%, not all-star but not garbage.  Also, his shooting efficiency is better than PG,DWhite,PP, and JT...not too shabby.

Definitely not average, but also pretty replaceable.

If BS and/or Scheierman were the difference between a Giannis trade being done, then it should have been done.  But, that's not really what the report was; Milwaukee also wanted additional draft assets. Is that a 1st? A pick swap? In what year? Or was it just a 2nd?  And, if Brad said yes, was that a done deal, or could Miami counteroffer?

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Re: NBA Season 2026-27
« Reply #381 on: Yesterday at 02:02:02 PM »

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Big win for MIA with Giannis and Adebayo both scoring 37 pts (74 pts combined).  The conventional wisdom, including my own, has been that these two are a bad fit.  I have thought that they will figure it out to some extent and play better than it has looked to start.  I was curious so did some stat diving:

                                                 Last        Season
Giannis without Adebayo              -11           -66
Adebayo without Giannis             +10           -90
Giannis with Adebayo                  +13           +2

Last game, they did well with them both on the floor and on the season, I was surprised by how well they do together relative to how they do when it is only one one of them on the floor.  This data does not support the "they are not a good fit together" theory.  I am not sure how to explain it.  Portis seems like the main 3rd big:

                                                  Season
Portis + Adebayo                            +14
Portis + Giannis                              +3

Giannis wo Adebayo or Portis           -69
Adebayo wo Giannis or Portis          -102
Portis wo Giannis or Adebayo          +55

The second set of data shows that Adebayo and Giannis are fine with Portis, but not so much when it is just Giannis or just Adebayo.  They are also fine when Portis is playing without Giannis or Adebayo.

Meh just some meh Cavs team. Guess we can tip our hats to them for one good game

See I think Portis would have been a good addition off the bench had Brad pulled that trigger over the summer. Provides that extra spark. Just don't know what's special about Hugo and Baylor; they both been garbage.

Maybe you are getting a little carried away...
Ok, granted Hugo has not lived up to the hype we heard over the summer, although he is still only 20 years old.

However, I think Baylor is having a pretty decent year and getting better, especially with his extra minutes and finishing games...20min, 6.1pts,4.0reb,1.4asts,.8stls and shooting 47.2% from 3 and 100% FT%, not all-star but not garbage.  Also, his shooting efficiency is better than PG,DWhite,PP, and JT...not too shabby.

I agree, Baylors been good. I?m very comfortable when he?s on the floor. Hugo hasn?t made progress I hoped for but hes got a long way to go.  Sparz yearns for what we don?t have, says the Lakers are on their way to the Finals, and somehow views the 10-2 first place Celtics as a team that blew it in the off-season. Cs are  looking pretty good at the moment and if healthy they are an East contender. 

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« Reply #382 on: Yesterday at 05:06:09 PM »

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Big win for MIA with Giannis and Adebayo both scoring 37 pts (74 pts combined).  The conventional wisdom, including my own, has been that these two are a bad fit.  I have thought that they will figure it out to some extent and play better than it has looked to start.  I was curious so did some stat diving:

                                                 Last        Season
Giannis without Adebayo              -11           -66
Adebayo without Giannis             +10           -90
Giannis with Adebayo                  +13           +2

Last game, they did well with them both on the floor and on the season, I was surprised by how well they do together relative to how they do when it is only one one of them on the floor.  This data does not support the "they are not a good fit together" theory.  I am not sure how to explain it.  Portis seems like the main 3rd big:

                                                  Season
Portis + Adebayo                            +14
Portis + Giannis                              +3

Giannis wo Adebayo or Portis           -69
Adebayo wo Giannis or Portis          -102
Portis wo Giannis or Adebayo          +55

The second set of data shows that Adebayo and Giannis are fine with Portis, but not so much when it is just Giannis or just Adebayo.  They are also fine when Portis is playing without Giannis or Adebayo.

Meh just some meh Cavs team. Guess we can tip our hats to them for one good game

See I think Portis would have been a good addition off the bench had Brad pulled that trigger over the summer. Provides that extra spark. Just don't know what's special about Hugo and Baylor; they both been garbage.

Maybe you are getting a little carried away...
Ok, granted Hugo has not lived up to the hype we heard over the summer, although he is still only 20 years old.

However, I think Baylor is having a pretty decent year and getting better, especially with his extra minutes and finishing games...20min, 6.1pts,4.0reb,1.4asts,.8stls and shooting 47.2% from 3 and 100% FT%, not all-star but not garbage.  Also, his shooting efficiency is better than PG,DWhite,PP, and JT...not too shabby.

I like Baylor on the offensive end, but he?s a bit of a turnstile defensively. Just doesn?t have the lateral quickness needed. Hugo is a better athlete and stronger, but he is poor offensively. If only there was a machine where we could fuse those two into one good player.  :laugh:
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« Reply #383 on: Yesterday at 06:05:18 PM »

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Big win for MIA with Giannis and Adebayo both scoring 37 pts (74 pts combined).  The conventional wisdom, including my own, has been that these two are a bad fit.  I have thought that they will figure it out to some extent and play better than it has looked to start.  I was curious so did some stat diving:

                                                 Last        Season
Giannis without Adebayo              -11           -66
Adebayo without Giannis             +10           -90
Giannis with Adebayo                  +13           +2

Last game, they did well with them both on the floor and on the season, I was surprised by how well they do together relative to how they do when it is only one one of them on the floor.  This data does not support the "they are not a good fit together" theory.  I am not sure how to explain it.  Portis seems like the main 3rd big:

                                                  Season
Portis + Adebayo                            +14
Portis + Giannis                              +3

Giannis wo Adebayo or Portis           -69
Adebayo wo Giannis or Portis          -102
Portis wo Giannis or Adebayo          +55

The second set of data shows that Adebayo and Giannis are fine with Portis, but not so much when it is just Giannis or just Adebayo.  They are also fine when Portis is playing without Giannis or Adebayo.

Meh just some meh Cavs team. Guess we can tip our hats to them for one good game

See I think Portis would have been a good addition off the bench had Brad pulled that trigger over the summer. Provides that extra spark. Just don't know what's special about Hugo and Baylor; they both been garbage.

Maybe you are getting a little carried away...
Ok, granted Hugo has not lived up to the hype we heard over the summer, although he is still only 20 years old.

However, I think Baylor is having a pretty decent year and getting better, especially with his extra minutes and finishing games...20min, 6.1pts,4.0reb,1.4asts,.8stls and shooting 47.2% from 3 and 100% FT%, not all-star but not garbage.  Also, his shooting efficiency is better than PG,DWhite,PP, and JT...not too shabby.

I like Baylor on the offensive end, but he?s a bit of a turnstile defensively. Just doesn?t have the lateral quickness needed. Hugo is a better athlete and stronger, but he is poor offensively. If only there was a machine where we could fuse those two into one good player.  :laugh:

The combination would be great but I have to say I disagree about Scheiermans defense. Plays smart and works hard on the defensive end. Not quick enough to be a great defender but he?s active and he makes plays. Gets beat sometimes but IMO makes up for it adequately.  I like seeing him get regular minutes. Decent solid player off the bench.

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« Reply #384 on: Yesterday at 07:14:53 PM »

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Big win for MIA with Giannis and Adebayo both scoring 37 pts (74 pts combined).  The conventional wisdom, including my own, has been that these two are a bad fit.  I have thought that they will figure it out to some extent and play better than it has looked to start.  I was curious so did some stat diving:

                                                 Last        Season
Giannis without Adebayo              -11           -66
Adebayo without Giannis             +10           -90
Giannis with Adebayo                  +13           +2

Last game, they did well with them both on the floor and on the season, I was surprised by how well they do together relative to how they do when it is only one one of them on the floor.  This data does not support the "they are not a good fit together" theory.  I am not sure how to explain it.  Portis seems like the main 3rd big:

                                                  Season
Portis + Adebayo                            +14
Portis + Giannis                              +3

Giannis wo Adebayo or Portis           -69
Adebayo wo Giannis or Portis          -102
Portis wo Giannis or Adebayo          +55

The second set of data shows that Adebayo and Giannis are fine with Portis, but not so much when it is just Giannis or just Adebayo.  They are also fine when Portis is playing without Giannis or Adebayo.

Meh just some meh Cavs team. Guess we can tip our hats to them for one good game

See I think Portis would have been a good addition off the bench had Brad pulled that trigger over the summer. Provides that extra spark. Just don't know what's special about Hugo and Baylor; they both been garbage.

Maybe you are getting a little carried away...
Ok, granted Hugo has not lived up to the hype we heard over the summer, although he is still only 20 years old.

However, I think Baylor is having a pretty decent year and getting better, especially with his extra minutes and finishing games...20min, 6.1pts,4.0reb,1.4asts,.8stls and shooting 47.2% from 3 and 100% FT%, not all-star but not garbage.  Also, his shooting efficiency is better than PG,DWhite,PP, and JT...not too shabby.

I like Baylor on the offensive end, but he?s a bit of a turnstile defensively. Just doesn?t have the lateral quickness needed. Hugo is a better athlete and stronger, but he is poor offensively. If only there was a machine where we could fuse those two into one good player.  :laugh:

The combination would be great but I have to say I disagree about Scheiermans defense. Plays smart and works hard on the defensive end. Not quick enough to be a great defender but he?s active and he makes plays. Gets beat sometimes but IMO makes up for it adequately.  I like seeing him get regular minutes. Decent solid player off the bench.
I agree about Baylor. I am glad to see him having a good year so far because he is older and there will be decision to make on him sooner than Hugo.

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« Reply #386 on: Yesterday at 10:40:00 PM »

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Not a single Cavs starter played for them tonight against DAL and they won the game by 10.

No D Mitchell.
No Harden.
No E Mobley.
Not even J Allen or P Watson.

Tyrese Proctor with 24pts 10ast 11reb. Hezonja with 22pts on 9-12 FGA. Meleek Thomas with 20pts. Even Thomas Bryant had 19pts and 11reb. Jaylon Tyson with 18pts. That was the Cavs starting five. Looks like DAL had everyone or almost everyone. Kyrie with 34pts. C Flagg with a bad shooting night with 18pts on 6-19 FGA. Bad loss.

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Not a single Cavs starter played for them tonight against DAL and they won the game by 10.

No D Mitchell.
No Harden.
No E Mobley.
Not even J Allen or P Watson.

Tyrese Proctor with 24pts 10ast 11reb. Hezonja with 22pts on 9-12 FGA. Meleek Thomas with 20pts. Even Thomas Bryant had 19pts and 11reb. Jaylon Tyson with 18pts. That was the Cavs starting five. Looks like DAL had everyone or almost everyone. Kyrie with 34pts. C Flagg with a bad shooting night with 18pts on 6-19 FGA. Bad loss.

I wanted the Celtics to draft Proctor in the second round. Instead Brad went with Amari Williams..  :blank:
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« Reply #389 on: Today at 10:25:43 AM »

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The Grizzlies are now 9-4 with a top 3 offensive rating and 5th overall net rating. They're schedule has been pretty soft, but they are destroying the bad teams.

Ty Jerome got a lot of the headlines with his scoring but they are a remarkably deep team. Almost everyone on the roster can shoot and hit free throws and they play so hard and unselfishly that they are very difficult for bad teams to keep up with. They also are pretty robust defensively with Edey and Stewart in the paint and so many athletic forwards defending  on the wing (Boozer is pretty mediocre defensively, but Wells is great and Coward is very solid).

They still have plenty of upside too. Boozer is an excellent rebounder, passer and ballhandler already but is very raw as a scorer. Coward has a lot of promise as a Michael Finley type offensive player but he's already a quality shooter and maybe the best rebounding wing in the league. Edey has had a slow start offensively but has excellent shooting touch and a great motor for a guy so huge. Cam Spencer is quietly turning into one of the best backup guards in the league - lights out shooter and good set up guard who crashes the glass and plays pretty good team D.

I expect them to come down to earth a little with tougher opponents and colder shooting, but they look like a 45-50 win team. And they have to chance to add a couple more lottery picks in the next draft (they have the most favorable of Utah/Cleveland plus their own). Reminiscent of the C's before drafting Tatum.
2025 Draft: Chicago Bulls

PG: Chauncey Billups/Deron Williams
SG: Kobe Bryant/Eric Gordon
SF: Jimmy Butler/Danny Granger/Danilo Gallinari
PF: Al Horford/Zion Williamson
C: Yao Ming/Pau Gasol/Tyson Chandler