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Re: 2008 CelticsBlog draft board.
« Reply #2325 on: August 15, 2008, 09:37:12 PM »

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Well he was one of the best shot blockers in the league at the SF position.  And dont talk about him being overhyped.  When i picked him a response was, "Who?"  So either its a really bad hype machine or somebody(IP) is misinformed.
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Re: 2008 CelticsBlog draft board.
« Reply #2326 on: August 15, 2008, 09:38:39 PM »

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Yes because alonzo in this one was in his prime
 And how do u dare to love this guy after this basket...blasphemy

How dare you speak about basketball blasphemy when you've got this guy on your team?



That's worth an extra 10 to 15 losses right there.

at least he was part of our team

Dont make me start Pierce is my friend  >:(


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGAPpfrf4fk&feature=related  ;D

seems your not a "real" celtics fan, you pick only Cs slayers....
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Re: 2008 CelticsBlog draft board.
« Reply #2327 on: August 15, 2008, 09:41:46 PM »

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at least he was part of our team

Dont make me start Pierce is my friend  >:(


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGAPpfrf4fk&feature=related  ;D

seems your not a "real" celtics fan, you pick only Cs slayers....
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As we see, even my first-year players have more composure than the centerpiece of the lead Eastern contender.  Looks like I'm in pretty good shape. ;)
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not really
Al Horford is not very intelligent


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he just make the captain angry
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Re: 2008 CelticsBlog draft board.
« Reply #2328 on: August 15, 2008, 09:44:33 PM »

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gnq1T5A5R3k&feature=related


I must admit, that *was* a sweet jump shot, wasn't it?

Thanks for the video. ;)

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Re: 2008 CelticsBlog draft board.
« Reply #2329 on: August 15, 2008, 09:50:29 PM »

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Hater.... ::)

 ;D

ok have to take out my wife and youtube isnt help me
I will continue thuis tomorrow

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Re: 2008 CelticsBlog draft board.
« Reply #2330 on: August 15, 2008, 10:00:46 PM »

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Well he was one of the best shot blockers in the league at the SF position.  And dont talk about him being overhyped.  When i picked him a response was, "Who?"  So either its a really bad hype machine or somebody(IP) is misinformed.


Maybe he works out, maybe he doesn't, but the unknown from a starting position vs. the lineups the Knicks and Nets puts your team in a solid third. 


Same with the bench.  Unknowns are going to lower what other posters think about your team.  (and Curry)



I still can't believe you are down playing KG, Posey and House after watching them this year. 

Re: 2008 CelticsBlog draft board.
« Reply #2331 on: August 15, 2008, 10:06:24 PM »

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Don't put words in my mouth.  I never downplayed Posey or KG.  look at my posts...........
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Re: 2008 CelticsBlog draft board.
« Reply #2332 on: August 15, 2008, 10:11:06 PM »

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Don't put words in my mouth.  I never downplayed Posey or KG.  look at my posts...........

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PF Jamison vs KG- edge Knicks, but not as big as people think



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And with Jamison pulling KG outside, I dont see how the knicks can possibly keep up inside.


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In games where He was the teams primary offensive target because Arenas was out.....
And how many games did the Wizards beat the celtics in this year?

Re: 2008 CelticsBlog draft board.
« Reply #2333 on: August 15, 2008, 10:26:38 PM »

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Don't put words in my mouth.  I never downplayed Posey or KG.  look at my posts...........

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PF Jamison vs KG- edge Knicks, but not as big as people think



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And with Jamison pulling KG outside, I dont see how the knicks can possibly keep up inside.


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In games where He was the teams primary offensive target because Arenas was out.....
And how many games did the Wizards beat the celtics in this year?

I made evaluations based on my opinions thats not downplaying, i think they are accurate i think you are being a homer.  and again thanks for proving my point about posey..
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Re: 2008 CelticsBlog draft board.
« Reply #2334 on: August 15, 2008, 10:37:14 PM »

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that he is a solid role player???

Re: 2008 CelticsBlog draft board.
« Reply #2335 on: August 15, 2008, 10:55:35 PM »

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Re: 2008 CelticsBlog draft board.
« Reply #2336 on: August 15, 2008, 10:57:50 PM »

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Attn: Roy Hobbs.

"The Natural" is on Bravo right now.... just thought I'd let you know.

That's got to be a sign. 

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Re: 2008 CelticsBlog draft board.
« Reply #2337 on: August 15, 2008, 11:11:13 PM »

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The question is, could the Eastern Conference All-stars beat the Trailblazers?

;) ;D ;)

pass my deep balanced veteran team first  >:(

 ;D

Alonzo Mourning will be my difference maker.   :D ;D :)

I'm developing some Western Conference pride, though.  Whoever comes out of the West will destroy the pansy East coasters!

(Unless it's the Nets).

I'll admit, the Nets could possibly have the better team than me this year. But in 3 years? Keep in mind he's older at EVERY position. Plus Jason Kidd will be useless very shortly.

Let's see how I stack up against the "Champions"

Yao vs Amare: Push (just look up their head to head #'s)
Okafor vs Horford: Edge: Pistons (Okafor kills him head to head)
Turkoglu vs Gay: Push (They averaged basically the same ppg while Turk was the 2nd/3rd option. Gay is more athletic)
Gordon vs Iguodala: Edge: Blazers  (ok, you got me here)
Watson vs Ford: Edge: Blazers (not by that much, especially b/c Ford won't be healthy when they play)

So you have me with starters, but not really by a lot. Let's move on to the bench (put the Blazers first this time) :

Haslem/Wright/Battie/Mourning vs Landry/Hibbert: Edge Blazers  Haslem is better than Landry, Hibbert is as good as the other three.

Webster/Mobley/Ross vs Terry/Stackhouse Edge: Pistons  Terry is too good to overlook

Blake vs Lowry: Edge Pistons: Lowry is better and younger.


Roy, I think you have the better starters, and I have the better bench. You will most likely win the title, but I feel like if I get past the Knicks/Nets I can challenge you for the next 3-5 years.
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Re: 2008 CelticsBlog draft board.
« Reply #2338 on: August 16, 2008, 12:28:48 AM »

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Don't put words in my mouth.  I never downplayed Posey or KG.  look at my posts...........

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PF Jamison vs KG- edge Knicks, but not as big as people think



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And with Jamison pulling KG outside, I dont see how the knicks can possibly keep up inside.


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In games where He was the teams primary offensive target because Arenas was out.....
And how many games did the Wizards beat the celtics in this year?

I made evaluations based on my opinions thats not downplaying, i think they are accurate i think you are being a homer.  and again thanks for proving my point about posey..



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And Jamison against KG, shot 35% from the field. 

KG against Jamison,    21.5  12.3  4.5  on 52% shooting.


Again, head to head, they are not close.  KG kills him. 





Don't take this so personal.  I (like a few others) ranked your team 3rd in the Atlantic. 

Re: 2008 CelticsBlog draft board.
« Reply #2339 on: August 16, 2008, 01:30:48 AM »

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The question is, could the Eastern Conference All-stars beat the Trailblazers?

;) ;D ;)

pass my deep balanced veteran team first  >:(

 ;D

Alonzo Mourning will be my difference maker.   :D ;D :)

I'm developing some Western Conference pride, though.  Whoever comes out of the West will destroy the pansy East coasters!

(Unless it's the Nets).

I'll admit, the Nets could possibly have the better team than me this year. But in 3 years? Keep in mind he's older at EVERY position. Plus Jason Kidd will be useless very shortly.

Let's see how I stack up against the "Champions"

Yao vs Amare: Push (just look up their head to head #'s)
Okafor vs Horford: Edge: Pistons (Okafor kills him head to head)
Turkoglu vs Gay: Push (They averaged basically the same ppg while Turk was the 2nd/3rd option. Gay is more athletic)
Gordon vs Iguodala: Edge: Blazers  (ok, you got me here)
Watson vs Ford: Edge: Blazers (not by that much, especially b/c Ford won't be healthy when they play)

So you have me with starters, but not really by a lot. Let's move on to the bench (put the Blazers first this time) :

Haslem/Wright/Battie/Mourning vs Landry/Hibbert: Edge Blazers  Haslem is better than Landry, Hibbert is as good as the other three.

Webster/Mobley/Ross vs Terry/Stackhouse Edge: Pistons  Terry is too good to overlook

Blake vs Lowry: Edge Pistons: Lowry is better and younger.


Roy, I think you have the better starters, and I have the better bench. You will most likely win the title, but I feel like if I get past the Knicks/Nets I can challenge you for the next 3-5 years.

those bench comparisons are tough. Haslem is good but to say Hibbert, a rookie is gonna walk in better than Mourning and Battie is saying quite a bit considering their resume. Though it is made somewhat closer because those 2 considering their injury history and age are pretty much as unknown as Hibbert is coming into this year. I'd call that comparison a Push.

I agree on Stack and Terry. Their playoff experience gives them the nod there.

But on Blake vs Lowry, I'm takin' Blake. He's not flashy but he's smart, he's consistent and he gets the job done.

While Roy and I have somewhat butted heads a bit about his roster I gotta give him credit for putting together a bench that so completely complements his starters by bring the element I felt he was lacking with the starters(arguably or not) which is perimeter shooting not to mention steadying hands like mobley and blake. Blake, Mobley, and Webster can spread the floor for all those slashers when they come in.

As much as I like Detroit, an element that I know you acknowledged that is missing is defense on the perimeter and neither JT nor Stack solve that problem for you. We're not done so I'm sure you will before we are but that should be addressed not to mention such a smallish backcourt.
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