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Does Antoine deserve consideration for a roster spot?

Yes - rotation player (6-9 spot)
Yes - glue player (10-15 spot)
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Re: Dare I say it...Antoine?
« Reply #15 on: June 18, 2008, 01:23:16 PM »

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The problem with actually re-acquiring Twoine for a 3rd time is that we would no longer be able to discuss bringing back Twoine.  It's way much more fun to just fantasize about it.
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Re: Dare I say it...Antoine?
« Reply #16 on: June 18, 2008, 01:29:06 PM »

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Some things never change  ;D

We have no chance of getting Antonie. McHale can use his expiring to grab someone who can help his team so we're safe.

Re: Dare I say it...Antoine?
« Reply #17 on: June 18, 2008, 01:30:46 PM »

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What I thought was absolutely hilarious last night...

Paul Pierce, at one point said (I'm paraphrashing, but I'm [dang] close to his actual words) "Hell, I got within two games of the Finals playing with Antoine Walker, I had no doubt I could win it all with Ray and KG!"

I know he didn't mean for it to be a diss on 'Toine...  but that's how it came across, as the most backhanded compliment ever.

Re: Dare I say it...Antoine?
« Reply #18 on: June 18, 2008, 01:54:46 PM »

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I was a huge Toine fan when he was here, and part of me would still like him back.  Still, I don't see how it works.  If anything, with P.J. potentially leaving, the C's need more bangers down low.  They already have undersized big men in Baby and Powe.  The other option, of course, would be to play Toine at the 3 where he could be an interesting scoring option off the bench.  But I don't like that option either, because as last night proves, defense wins championships, and Toine at the 3 is not a good idea defensively. 

So while it's a sentimental thought, it has no real world applicability. 

Scoring option? the man managed 8 points a game on the worst team in the league by shooting .363 from the field. He makes cassell look like a combo of good eddie and good rondo. He's done. out. has nothing contribute to a contender in any way. the defending champs can have a zillion better options as a 3 off the bench.

Re: Dare I say it...Antoine?
« Reply #19 on: June 18, 2008, 02:11:51 PM »

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I was a huge Toine fan when he was here, and part of me would still like him back.  Still, I don't see how it works.  If anything, with P.J. potentially leaving, the C's need more bangers down low.  They already have undersized big men in Baby and Powe.  The other option, of course, would be to play Toine at the 3 where he could be an interesting scoring option off the bench.  But I don't like that option either, because as last night proves, defense wins championships, and Toine at the 3 is not a good idea defensively. 

So while it's a sentimental thought, it has no real world applicability. 

Scoring option? the man managed 8 points a game on the worst team in the league by shooting .363 from the field. He makes cassell look like a combo of good eddie and good rondo. He's done. out. has nothing contribute to a contender in any way. the defending champs can have a zillion better options as a 3 off the bench.

Done?  How would YOU know that?  That T-Wolves team is a rebuilding team.  Toine would be better served on a playoff-bound(or an on-the-fringe playoff team) team.  They stopped giving him minutes 'cause they were going youth the entire way.   

Toine won't be back in Celtic Green anytime soon but I have a feeling we'll be seeing Toine playing in the postseason once more in the near future.   He's not "Done", yet.

Re: Dare I say it...Antoine?
« Reply #20 on: June 18, 2008, 02:16:17 PM »

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I was a huge Toine fan when he was here, and part of me would still like him back.  Still, I don't see how it works.  If anything, with P.J. potentially leaving, the C's need more bangers down low.  They already have undersized big men in Baby and Powe.  The other option, of course, would be to play Toine at the 3 where he could be an interesting scoring option off the bench.  But I don't like that option either, because as last night proves, defense wins championships, and Toine at the 3 is not a good idea defensively. 

So while it's a sentimental thought, it has no real world applicability. 



Scoring option? the man managed 8 points a game on the worst team in the league by shooting .363 from the field. He makes cassell look like a combo of good eddie and good rondo. He's done. out. has nothing contribute to a contender in any way. the defending champs can have a zillion better options as a 3 off the bench.

Done?  How would YOU know that?  That T-Wolves team is a rebuilding team.  Toine would be better served on a playoff-bound(or an on-the-fringe playoff team) team.  They stopped giving him minutes 'cause they were going youth the entire way.   

Toine won't be back in Celtic Green anytime soon but I have a feeling we'll be seeing Toine playing in the postseason once more in the near future.   He's not "Done", yet.

the point was if you can't average points on a team where your allowed tot ake as many shots as you want, limited PT is probley going to be unproductive.

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Re: Dare I say it...Antoine?
« Reply #21 on: June 18, 2008, 02:18:20 PM »

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Antoine's career is winding down. His days as a rotation player on a playoff team are over. He can still be a rotation player on a lottery team, a glue guy, the veteran that holds the kids together and offers some early guidance to them.

He won't and shouldn't play another game in a Celtics uniform. Scalabrine offers more to the C's than Toine could.

Re: Dare I say it...Antoine?
« Reply #22 on: June 18, 2008, 02:30:38 PM »

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Wow there's a surprise, PSquared posting in a "Bring back Toine" thread!!

That's almost as big a surprise as wdleehi posting in "Doc Detractor(for those that don't care for the other word)" thread or MikeDfromNP posting in an "I love Rondo" thread.

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Re: Dare I say it...Antoine?
« Reply #23 on: June 18, 2008, 02:47:14 PM »

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Hey why not. I miss seeing a guy on the floor that shoots from half court the entire game. Just think o=about how many long rebounds we could get
Back to wanting Joe fired.

Re: Dare I say it...Antoine?
« Reply #24 on: June 18, 2008, 03:15:15 PM »

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I would actually like to take him back for 10 mins a game off the bench....However, why do we need another undersized PF with baby and leon (and maybe scal) here...it is not a need...actually its something we already have to much of


We need a

backup center
2nd or 3rd PG to replace sam if gabe isnt the man
an athletic scorer off the bench to spell ray/paul - (a tony allen type with a better IQ)


Toine isnt one of these

Re: Dare I say it...Antoine?
« Reply #25 on: June 18, 2008, 03:22:38 PM »

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No. 

A lot of guys here almost had a stroke when Sam took those ill-advised shots in LA.  You'd endanger the lives of many guys here if you bring Antoine back.  Watching Toine's shot selection are enough to give even casual fans a cardiac arrest.

Re: Dare I say it...Antoine?
« Reply #26 on: June 18, 2008, 03:27:41 PM »

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For the love of god, no!!! 

Re: Dare I say it...Antoine?
« Reply #27 on: June 18, 2008, 03:31:22 PM »

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To the people who are saying "No" because Antoine "can't produce" on Minnesota - it's Minnesota.  There is no cohesiveness to that team.  I'm sure Antoine isn't too motivated there.

To the guys that say Toine takes too many bad shots - how easy people forget just how important he was to Miami's Finals run just 2 years ago....  Shots aren't ill-advised if they are limited and more importantly, if they go in.

To the people who are saying "No" because "we already have a bunch of undersized PFs" - that would presupposes that 2 of those 3 guys might be moved elsewhere (Scal, BBD, Powe).  I for one truly believes Toine is more versatile and could consistently be more effective than any of those 3, and we could probably get more size/strength elsewhere (a la in the mold of Perk, Garbajosa).

Thought it would go without saying that the Antoine move would be one of many, but apparently it wasn't as obvious as I had thought.
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Re: Dare I say it...Antoine?
« Reply #28 on: June 18, 2008, 03:47:52 PM »

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I love Toine.

Plain and simple.

However, when Toine came to the Garden and didn't visit Paul in the locker room, that's when I thought Toine was a bit of a punk.

Perhaps he didn't know he was welcome, perhaps he didn't think he could make it through security, but at least ring your boy Paul and say hello.

Anyways, he's a skilled player who can play both the 3 and the 4, and if he had Perk's "i'm tougher than you and will out muscle you" mentality then i'd consider him for a roster spot, deep on the bench.

I think more than anything I miss his shimmey shake, which I guess isn't saying a lot.
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Re: Dare I say it...Antoine?
« Reply #29 on: June 18, 2008, 04:10:35 PM »

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I say yes to a 1 day contract to allow Walker to retire as a Celtic. 


Anything more, no.

I am 100% with you... And I do love Toine.. One of my favorite Celtics players ever.

NF.
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