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Re: Time for a change?
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What is even the point of Jaylen for Mitchell for both sides? I don't think they are significantly different, and their future extensions aren't that different. Both sides are better off just keeping it as is.
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Jaylen is doing a Twitch stream at 5 PM. He's gonna get bombarded with questions asking about if he's requested a trade and stuff  :laugh:
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What is even the point of Jaylen for Mitchell for both sides? I don't think they are significantly different, and their future extensions aren't that different. Both sides are better off just keeping it as is.

There is no point


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What is even the point of Jaylen for Mitchell for both sides? I don't think they are significantly different, and their future extensions aren't that different. Both sides are better off just keeping it as is.
talent is similar but they do have different skill sets. I don't think Boston would be better though Cleveland probably would be.  Now if it was Mitchell, Tyson, and a future 1st for Brown that is more enticing.  Or Mitchell and Allen for Brown and the 27 1st or something like that.  Or Mobley and Merrill.
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If Mitchell was 27 or 28 I?d do it. 30? Nope.
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If Mitchell was 27 or 28 I?d do it. 30? Nope.

Same.

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Not sure if this has been said, but what are thought(providing Portland agrees) of sending Brown for the picks they have from Milwaukee for the Dame trade and maybe a big?

I'm ok with taking a step back to strengthen the following years. Milwaukee is going to be picking high.

Could be helping JT know while possible securing the future when he's gone.



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Not sure if this has been said, but what are thought(providing Portland agrees) of sending Brown for the picks they have from Milwaukee for the Dame trade and maybe a big?

I'm ok with taking a step back to strengthen the following years. Milwaukee is going to be picking high.

Could be helping JT know while possible securing the future when he's gone.

The thing is, with the new lottery rules there's no guarantee that even a terrible team will end up picking high.  Those Bucks picks are likely to be worth as much as a late lottery / play-in team's.
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Not sure if this has been said, but what are thought(providing Portland agrees) of sending Brown for the picks they have from Milwaukee for the Dame trade and maybe a big?

I'm ok with taking a step back to strengthen the following years. Milwaukee is going to be picking high.

Could be helping JT know while possible securing the future when he's gone.

The thing is, with the new lottery rules there's no guarantee that even a terrible team will end up picking high.  Those Bucks picks are likely to be worth as much as a late lottery / play-in team's.

True, but what makes Portland's picks better than most is that they have pick swap rights with Milwaukee.

If you get a "better of" on some of those picks, you have 2x the odds of getting a better lotto pick (if both teams are in the lottery).

Although I admit, Portland may ascend and not be a lottery team if Jaylen goes there, but the West is tough, and Dame/Jrue may retire soon so it depends which years those picks convey.

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Not sure if this has been said, but what are thought(providing Portland agrees) of sending Brown for the picks they have from Milwaukee for the Dame trade and maybe a big?

I'm ok with taking a step back to strengthen the following years. Milwaukee is going to be picking high.

Could be helping JT know while possible securing the future when he's gone.

The thing is, with the new lottery rules there's no guarantee that even a terrible team will end up picking high.  Those Bucks picks are likely to be worth as much as a late lottery / play-in team's.

It sort of depends how bad a team is.  If you think the Bucks are going to be bad for a year, but generally be a middling team going forward because they have no incentive not to be, having the pick of like the 8th worst team is way better than it used to be.  There is more variance (you can fall further) but it also much easier to rise.  The picks you want are the ones of teams likely in the play-in hunt, but ultimately missing out.

Also, they have swaps with the Bucks.  I would be very willing to bet on the best pick of Portland and Milwaukee for three years straight.  The West is difficult and capping out as a play-in team would not surprise me for Portland.  It would be surprising if you didn?t get a couple of top 10, maybe even top 5 picks.  I do not think Portland is built to last, what with the corner-cutting their new owner is doing.  Give me those Portland picks in 2029 and 2030.

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Not sure if this has been said, but what are thought(providing Portland agrees) of sending Brown for the picks they have from Milwaukee for the Dame trade and maybe a big?

I'm ok with taking a step back to strengthen the following years. Milwaukee is going to be picking high.

Could be helping JT know while possible securing the future when he's gone.

The thing is, with the new lottery rules there's no guarantee that even a terrible team will end up picking high.  Those Bucks picks are likely to be worth as much as a late lottery / play-in team's.

It sort of depends how bad a team is.  If you think the Bucks are going to be bad for a year, but generally be a middling team going forward because they have no incentive not to be, having the pick of like the 8th worst team is way better than it used to be.  There is more variance (you can fall further) but it also much easier to rise.  The picks you want are the ones of teams likely in the play-in hunt, but ultimately missing out.

Also, they have swaps with the Bucks.  I would be very willing to bet on the best pick of Portland and Milwaukee for three years straight.  The West is difficult and capping out as a play-in team would not surprise me for Portland.  It would be surprising if you didn?t get a couple of top 10, maybe even top 5 picks.  I do not think Portland is built to last, what with the corner-cutting their new owner is doing.  Give me those Portland picks in 2029 and 2030.

Basically what I wrote just above this.  ;^)

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Not sure if this has been said, but what are thought(providing Portland agrees) of sending Brown for the picks they have from Milwaukee for the Dame trade and maybe a big?

I'm ok with taking a step back to strengthen the following years. Milwaukee is going to be picking high.

Could be helping JT know while possible securing the future when he's gone.

The thing is, with the new lottery rules there's no guarantee that even a terrible team will end up picking high.  Those Bucks picks are likely to be worth as much as a late lottery / play-in team's.

It sort of depends how bad a team is.  If you think the Bucks are going to be bad for a year, but generally be a middling team going forward because they have no incentive not to be, having the pick of like the 8th worst team is way better than it used to be.  There is more variance (you can fall further) but it also much easier to rise.  The picks you want are the ones of teams likely in the play-in hunt, but ultimately missing out.

Also, they have swaps with the Bucks.  I would be very willing to bet on the best pick of Portland and Milwaukee for three years straight.  The West is difficult and capping out as a play-in team would not surprise me for Portland.  It would be surprising if you didn?t get a couple of top 10, maybe even top 5 picks.  I do not think Portland is built to last, what with the corner-cutting their new owner is doing.  Give me those Portland picks in 2029 and 2030.

Basically what I wrote just above this.  ;^)

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Not sure if this has been said, but what are thought(providing Portland agrees) of sending Brown for the picks they have from Milwaukee for the Dame trade and maybe a big?

I'm ok with taking a step back to strengthen the following years. Milwaukee is going to be picking high.

Could be helping JT know while possible securing the future when he's gone.

The thing is, with the new lottery rules there's no guarantee that even a terrible team will end up picking high.  Those Bucks picks are likely to be worth as much as a late lottery / play-in team's.

It sort of depends how bad a team is.  If you think the Bucks are going to be bad for a year, but generally be a middling team going forward because they have no incentive not to be, having the pick of like the 8th worst team is way better than it used to be.  There is more variance (you can fall further) but it also much easier to rise.  The picks you want are the ones of teams likely in the play-in hunt, but ultimately missing out.

Also, they have swaps with the Bucks.  I would be very willing to bet on the best pick of Portland and Milwaukee for three years straight.  The West is difficult and capping out as a play-in team would not surprise me for Portland.  It would be surprising if you didn?t get a couple of top 10, maybe even top 5 picks.  I do not think Portland is built to last, what with the corner-cutting their new owner is doing.  Give me those Portland picks in 2029 and 2030.

Basically what I wrote just above this.  ;^)

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Of course then we'd all be rooting for Milwaukee to not crater into a bottom-three team (and get only two ping-pong balls).

Does rooting for a Portland trade and some of these picks make me a riverboat gambler too?