Knicks (1-0) at Celtics (0-1) Round 2 Game 2 5/7/25

[Phantom255x]

We were 10-40 from 3, but at one point it was 8-26.

We actually finished the game 2-14 from 3. Helplessly clanging it in the 4th. Pitiful

[jpotter33]

What's even more frustrating is that I still don't think New York really did anything to us defensively to make our offense that bad. We were literally just not hitting wide open shots and had nothing else to turn to.

Knicks are giving them the open set shots and they are falling for it. Miami did the same stuff, no ball movement, or cuts to the basket. It's easy to defend, just a matter of the shot going in or not. They also are happy with just letting Tatum and Brown try to mismatch hunt.

This is the other thing. Beyond the absurdness of the three point volume, this is virtually the only sets we run - run screens and actions to get the mismatch and try and exploit from there. No dynamism or variety in our offense.

[Larry for 3]

What's even more frustrating is that I still don't think New York really did anything to us defensively to make our offense that bad. We were literally just not hitting wide open shots and had nothing else to turn to.

Knicks are giving them the open set shots and they are falling for it. Miami did the same stuff, no ball movement, or cuts to the basket. It's easy to defend, just a matter of the shot going in or not. They also are happy with just letting Tatum and Brown try to mismatch hunt.

This is the other thing. Beyond the absurdness of the three point volume, this is virtually the only sets we run - run screens and actions to get the mismatch and try and exploit from there. No dynamism or variety in our offense.

It?s called coaching. This team has none. It?s all analytics. I could do what Joe does. I?ll bet I can draw up a better end game play too.

[SparzWizard]

Stephen A. Smith got his wish. He wanted more than one New York win in this series.

Now he wants New York to finish them off.

[Boston Garden Leprechaun]

I am on a trip for work and I missed the game.  omg I am so glad I didn?t watch that game.  so what is the consensus, are the C?s done?  i read we had a 20 point lead again and blew it.   what the heck happened this time?

MAZZ BALL

[CelticSooner]

I truly believe we fans are being held hostage by Tatum's psyche. This whole thing goes beyond Mazzulla ball. They are reverting back to the same stuff with two prior coaches. He looked legit clueless tonight, for a guy that has played in as many playoff games it makes no sense. He was going for series knockout punches in Game 1 and in Game 2 being too passive. He has to get back to that playmaker that gets good looks in the rhythm of the offense. I expect him to play much better in MSG because he's comfortable there and shows out.

[Boston Garden Leprechaun]

I truly believe we fans are being held hostage by Tatum's psyche. This whole thing goes beyond Mazzulla ball. They are reverting back to the same stuff with two prior coaches. He looked legit clueless tonight, for a guy that has played in as many playoff games it makes no sense. He was going for series knockout punches in Game 1 and in Game 2 being too passive. He has to get back to that playmaker that gets good looks in the rhythm of the offense. I expect him to play much better in MSG because he's comfortable there and shows out.

you never saw lebron james not learn from prior playoffs. this whole team is BI POLAR especially JB and JT.

[ozgod]

It was bad when I started counting seconds with 8 minutes to go.  Tatum missing the breakaway pass to Brown and  Horford turned the ball over after stealing the inbounds play.  They had a big lead at that point but started giving away possessions.  All the while bricking 3?s.

And I don't know if anyone else noticed but I felt they started to play slow and milk the clock with 6 min to go and they had a 12 point lead...bad things always happen when they do that.

Well now's the time we see if their cojones are made of steel or mud. We're now in must-win territory. We expected at least one away win at MSG, now we need 2, and 4 of the next 5.

[ozgod]

I think we all felt like this was going to be an issue this season when we saw how bad this team played at home.

That has continued. Championship teams win games at home. They don't blow 20 point leads in consecutive second halves of playoff games.

It is really disappointing. They are better than this. Just looks like they are cool with winning one title.

1987 team had injuries
2009 had injuries

This team really has no excuse other than they just play pretty lazy ball.

If you think about it, they've shot 35% overall and 25% from 3 in both games combined, and lost by 3 the first game and 1 the 2nd after holding 20 point leads. No matter how bad you play that's a mental issue to fail to execute in the clutch. The Knicks are doing something to get in their heads. Or they are in their own heads.

[ozgod]

Joe in the postgame saying they didnt execute they got good looks

said he didnt calll timeout because he felt JT got a good look last game and thought he would do it again next game

Says 60/40 where they got good looks and didnt make them and 40 where they had live ball turnovers

basically saying he is ok with the shots they took but just didnt make them, and kept turning the ball over

says the hack a mitch was to get him off the court because he was a +19 when he was on the court rather than put him on the line

says all the Knicks starters were negative plus minus while Robinson was a +19

says they have to be better at executing at critical moments of the game

This is how you know he will never be a good coach. He literally cannot adjust and cannot even accept it as a possibility. It's always a "make or miss" issue with him, and there's literally no backup.

Also - no coach in their right mind lets the Jays try and iso in that sitaution with as awful  as they played all game long. It's just complete lack of self-awareness and what's actually happening in the game.

Going to be yet another lost season because we refuse to get rid of the clearly overmatched coach.

His biggest flaw right now is he is too rigid in his basketball doctrine...he won't adjust mid game because he feels like once he decides the scheme is the right one, it's just a matter of executing it and if they lose it's a failure to execute (i.e. missed shots, turnovers) rather than the scheme being bad. There's an element of truth in that the team failed to execute, but he clearly doesn't like making changes midstream, he wants to wait till the end of the game, watch film, then decide if the scheme was at fault or the execution was at fault. In the presser it was clear he felt it was a failure of execution, bringing up the missed shoots and the turnovers, rather than a flawed plan to begin with. And because he feels the plan is sound but was executed poorly he won't change it, his expectation is that the players will execute better.

Kind of like Napoleon - I'm going to use artillery, infantry musket columns to ram through the enemy infantry and cavalry on the wings to flank the enemy muskets and force them from lines to squares, always, because it's the best plan that has helped me conquer Europe. I don't care if Wellington changes his plans, if I lose to him its because my soldiers didn't execute my plan well enough and I have to train them harder to execute better. Sometimes the plan needs to be re-thought.

[radiohead]

It was bad when I started counting seconds with 8 minutes to go.  Tatum missing the breakaway pass to Brown and  Horford turned the ball over after stealing the inbounds play.  They had a big lead at that point but started giving away possessions.  All the while bricking 3?s.

And I don't know if anyone else noticed but I felt they started to play slow and milk the clock with 6 min to go and they had a 12 point lead...bad things always happen when they do that.

Well now's the time we see if their cojones are made of steel or mud. We're now in must-win territory. We expected at least one away win at MSG, now we need 2, and 4 of the next 5.

This is very doable IF we see the Celtics team we know. IF.

[SparzWizard]

Joe in the postgame saying they didnt execute they got good looks

said he didnt calll timeout because he felt JT got a good look last game and thought he would do it again next game

Says 60/40 where they got good looks and didnt make them and 40 where they had live ball turnovers

basically saying he is ok with the shots they took but just didnt make them, and kept turning the ball over

says the hack a mitch was to get him off the court because he was a +19 when he was on the court rather than put him on the line

says all the Knicks starters were negative plus minus while Robinson was a +19

says they have to be better at executing at critical moments of the game

This is how you know he will never be a good coach. He literally cannot adjust and cannot even accept it as a possibility. It's always a "make or miss" issue with him, and there's literally no backup.

Also - no coach in their right mind lets the Jays try and iso in that sitaution with as awful  as they played all game long. It's just complete lack of self-awareness and what's actually happening in the game.

Going to be yet another lost season because we refuse to get rid of the clearly overmatched coach.

His biggest flaw right now is he is too rigid in his basketball doctrine...he won't adjust mid game because he feels like once he decides the scheme is the right one, it's just a matter of executing it and if they lose it's a failure to execute (i.e. missed shots, turnovers) rather than the scheme being bad. There's an element of truth in that the team failed to execute, but he clearly doesn't like making changes midstream, he wants to wait till the end of the game, watch film, then decide if the scheme was at fault or the execution was at fault. In the presser it was clear he felt it was a failure of execution, bringing up the missed shoots and the turnovers, rather than a flawed plan to begin with. And because he feels the plan is sound but was executed poorly he won't change it, his expectation is that the players will execute better.

Kind of like Napoleon - I'm going to use artillery, infantry musket columns to ram through the enemy infantry and cavalry on the wings to flank the enemy muskets and force them from lines to squares, always, because it's the best plan that has helped me conquer Europe. I don't care if Wellington changes his plans, if I lose to him its because my soldiers didn't execute my plan well enough and I have to train them harder to execute better. Sometimes the plan needs to be re-thought.

And it is his job to ensure that they are executing and ensure the game is won, especially a playoff game. If they are obviously standing there struggling then maybe change to a different scheme. Regardless, the scheme he has (live by the 3 die by the 3, drive into the lane before making extra passes back out to brick a 3, your turn/my turn offense with the Jays) is a crap one and needs something better.

[86MaxwellSmart]

Coach firing failures.

[SparzWizard]

Well, I guess I can look forward to Paul Pierce walking 15 miles to work tomorrow morning in a robe. After all, he made a bet that if the Celtics lose Game 2 he would execute this.

[Phantom255x]

How are things going? Well, I made an Instagram story with this meme pictured here, and the caption "W.T.F" and a half-joke saying "brb jumping off the nearest bridge" (clear joke), and then I wake up this morning to see a bunch of IG notifications saying they removed the post, and that I matter and offered me some self help and suicide prevention resources. So yeah...