Conversation on Porzingis / Re-sign KP? (merged)

[Celtics4ever]

KP's value in a trade seems to be negative right now. Trading him now means bringing back nothing of value.

Keeping him when he can't play is pretty much the same thing. So you either bring nothing on a player, or have him be completely unreliable as an asset with knowledge that he will get hurt or sick again.    I like him as a person, we would not have won the title last year without him.  But now is the time to ditch him to a team desperate for a big.

[boscel33]

KP's value in a trade seems to be negative right now. Trading him now means bringing back nothing of value.

Keeping him when he can't play is pretty much the same thing. So you either bring nothing on a player, or have him be completely unreliable as an asset with knowledge that he will get hurt or sick again.    I like him as a person, we would not have won the title last year without him.  But now is the time to ditch him to a team desperate for a big.

He's gone.  Thank him for the championship he played a hand in and take advantage of that expiring deal.

[Big333223]

KP's value in a trade seems to be negative right now. Trading him now means bringing back nothing of value.

Keeping him when he can't play is pretty much the same thing. So you either bring nothing on a player, or have him be completely unreliable as an asset with knowledge that he will get hurt or sick again.    I like him as a person, we would not have won the title last year without him.  But now is the time to ditch him to a team desperate for a big.

Actually, now is the worst time. If he plays well for Latvia and his value rises, then that might be the time.

But if what I've heard elsewhere is correct (that his value is negative right now) then it doesn't make sense to pay someone else to take him when he only has one more year on his deal. It would make more sense to let him walk next summer than send out an asset to be off his contract now when the team doesn't expect to contend without Tatum.

It would also make more sense to bring him back and let him play his value back up to where the C's can actually get something for him in return.

If his value is really in the negative, this moment would be the worst time to try and trade him.

[mef730]

So if KP is gone, who are they starting at Center? For several months this year KP was the 2nd best player on the team behind Tatum. He?s injury prone, but I?d rather roll the dice with him than with Jrue.

Yeah, that's the question.

KP's value in a trade seems to be negative right now. Trading him now means bringing back nothing of value.

I heard they were offered Kyle Harrison and Jordan Hicks, but somebody beat them to it. 

[tazzmaniac]

KP's value in a trade seems to be negative right now. Trading him now means bringing back nothing of value.

Keeping him when he can't play is pretty much the same thing. So you either bring nothing on a player, or have him be completely unreliable as an asset with knowledge that he will get hurt or sick again.    I like him as a person, we would not have won the title last year without him.  But now is the time to ditch him to a team desperate for a big.

Actually, now is the worst time. If he plays well for Latvia and his value rises, then that might be the time.

But if what I've heard elsewhere is correct (that his value is negative right now) then it doesn't make sense to pay someone else to take him when he only has one more year on his deal. It would make more sense to let him walk next summer than send out an asset to be off his contract now when the team doesn't expect to contend without Tatum.

It would also make more sense to bring him back and let him play his value back up to where the C's can actually get something for him in return.

If his value is really in the negative, this moment would be the worst time to try and trade him.

He only has 1 year left on his contract so you either trade him now or in-season assuming that he is going to be traded.  In-season trade would be harder to do.    KP's value is low but it is not negative.  It won't require giving up a pick to move him.  Keeping him and extending or letting him walk after next season may be the best option.  Maybe he'd be willing to put availability related clauses in the extension. 

[Moranis]

I find it hard to believe that an expiring contract on a guy that performs well in 50% of the games a team plays has negative value.  Now it might not be great value, but id be stunned if it cost a draft pick to move him.

[Atzar]

I find it hard to believe that an expiring contract on a guy that performs well in 50% of the games a team plays has negative value.  Now it might not be great value, but id be stunned if it cost a draft pick to move him.

Especially given how scarce quality bigs are in the league. 

I agree that he should have some value to somebody.  The other side of the coin is that the 'somebody' may be us.