Conversation on Porzingis / Re-sign KP? (merged)

[Vermont Green]

That is the point.  $15M or so is probably the market. I think he will want to stay, even for a little less money. I don?t see where a big offer come from. 

[keevsnick]

That is the point.  $15M or so is probably the market. I think he will want to stay, even for a little less money. I don?t see where a big offer come from.

I'd be surprised if his next contract starts at less than 25 million. I get he's often injured, but 25 million is pretty much just average starting level player salary at this point. Unless he has some catastrophic injury next year that calls into question his availability going forward he's not a mid-level guy.

[kraidstar]

That is the point.  $15M or so is probably the market. I think he will want to stay, even for a little less money. I don?t see where a big offer come from.

I'd be surprised if his next contract starts at less than 25 million. I get he's often injured, but 25 million is pretty much just average starting level player salary at this point. Unless he has some catastrophic injury next year that calls into question his availability going forward he's not a mid-level guy.

What team do you think pays him that?

[DefenseWinsChamps]

That is the point.  $15M or so is probably the market. I think he will want to stay, even for a little less money. I don?t see where a big offer come from.

I'd be surprised if his next contract starts at less than 25 million. I get he's often injured, but 25 million is pretty much just average starting level player salary at this point. Unless he has some catastrophic injury next year that calls into question his availability going forward he's not a mid-level guy.

What team do you think pays him that?

I think the 4 year contract that the Bucks signed Brooke Lopez to is a pretty good comp. Lopez might have been a bit healthier, but Zinger was a bit more productive on-court.

Somewhere around the MLE for 4 years is a good price for him. I'm hoping he'd give us a discount for a long-term deal though.

[keevsnick]

Too far away to predict, but somebody will. KP may be injured often, but he's also one of the few true stretch big men in the game. This offseason only one team is projected to have max space, but in 2026 several teams are. 25 million is not even 15% of the cap in 2026. 

Too put it another way: When the C's gave him an extension in 2023 he was also well known as an often-injured player, he still got a 2 year extension worth 21% of the cap.

[tazzmaniac]

Too far away to predict, but somebody will. KP may be injured often, but he's also one of the few true stretch big men in the game. This offseason only one team is projected to have max space, but in 2026 several teams are. 25 million is not even 15% of the cap in 2026. 

Too put it another way: When the C's gave him an extension in 2023 he was also well known as an often-injured player, he still got a 2 year extension worth 21% of the cap.

He played 68 and 65 games in the two seasons prior to signing with the Celts and since he played for Washington, he didn't have to worry about missing playoff games.  That was the most games he played since his 1st two seasons.  If he has another season like last year, it will certainly hurt him in free agency.  Most of the teams you mention having cap space are bad teams so probably won't be interested in KP.  Maybe someone goes as high as 2yrs/50M with the 2nd year team option.  Problem is you have to have pay for 2 solid backups. 

[scaryjerry]

So he can be injured every time an important game or stretch of the season comes? No thanks

[jambr380]

Too far away to predict, but somebody will. KP may be injured often, but he's also one of the few true stretch big men in the game. This offseason only one team is projected to have max space, but in 2026 several teams are. 25 million is not even 15% of the cap in 2026. 

Too put it another way: When the C's gave him an extension in 2023 he was also well known as an often-injured player, he still got a 2 year extension worth 21% of the cap.

I don't know if Brad is the best example to use when talking about contract extensions. He constantly just gives the most money he is allowed to give (Tatum, Brown, White) or just massive contracts in general where nobody is competing with us (Jrue, KP). He's not Danny who mostly negotiated in the best interest of the team.

This isn't to say that Brad isn't very good at his job, but up until this point, he's been given blank checks to build the team. In the case of KP, he will be in his 30s and will have continued to prove that he is an injury risk...an injury guarantee. He's a valuable player for sure, but you can't pay a guy you for sure can't count on $30M/yr

[DefenseWinsChamps]

Too far away to predict, but somebody will. KP may be injured often, but he's also one of the few true stretch big men in the game. This offseason only one team is projected to have max space, but in 2026 several teams are. 25 million is not even 15% of the cap in 2026. 

Too put it another way: When the C's gave him an extension in 2023 he was also well known as an often-injured player, he still got a 2 year extension worth 21% of the cap.

I don't know if Brad is the best example to use when talking about contract extensions. He constantly just gives the most money he is allowed to give (Tatum, Brown, White) or just massive contracts in general where nobody is competing with us (Jrue, KP). He's not Danny who mostly negotiated in the best interest of the team.

This isn't to say that Brad isn't very good at his job, but up until this point, he's been given blank checks to build the team. In the case of KP, he will be in his 30s and will have continued to prove that he is an injury risk...an injury guarantee. He's a valuable player for sure, but you can't pay a guy you for sure can't count on $30M/yr

Prichard? Hauser? Timelord? Horford?

Maybe he gave those contracts because that is what they were worth and he wanted to not have distractions in our championship window?

[Moranis]

The team needs to make hard decisions on cost and Zinger isnt worth basically anything more than 10 million (to the Celtics) a year given his lack of availability.  A team not super stretched financially he may be worth more, but not on a team when every dollar is tripled or more.

[Birdman]

I doubt Porzingus will be traded cause it?s his last season & we need bigs..Holiday & Hauser are the 2 that I think will be traded & think Horford will return cause if he gotta retire he already would announce it

[Big333223]

It's really hard to gauge KP's value. He's making the same money as Isaiah Hartenstein, and I'd say KP is a much, much better player. But obviously his health is the problem.

I don't know who the cheaper option is that could come anywhere near KP's production.

[SparzWizard]

So he can be injured every time an important game or stretch of the season comes? No thanks

Just a newsflash...he'll be playing for Latvia in the EuroLeagues lol

And then when he comes back, we'll be begging him to just do something esp on important games

[Big333223]

So if KP is gone, who are they starting at Center? For several months this year KP was the 2nd best player on the team behind Tatum. He?s injury prone, but I?d rather roll the dice with him than with Jrue.

Yeah, that's the question.

KP's value in a trade seems to be negative right now. Trading him now means bringing back nothing of value.

[Celtics4ever]

Pass on resigning.  He is not even remotely dependable.