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Re: NBA Season 2024-25
« Reply #2280 on: March 28, 2025, 09:37:01 PM »

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Cleveland falling apart down the final stretch of the season. Terrible loss against a Pistons team with no Cade or Harris.
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Re: NBA Season 2024-25
« Reply #2281 on: March 28, 2025, 09:51:52 PM »

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Cleveland Cavaliers: perhaps a second-round exit?


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Re: NBA Season 2024-25
« Reply #2282 on: March 28, 2025, 09:56:16 PM »

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Cleveland Cavaliers: perhaps a second-round exit?

If we win tomorrow the deficit will be down to 4 games! If we end up being tied with Cleveland for the best record in the east, who gets the tiebreaker?

Re: NBA Season 2024-25
« Reply #2283 on: March 28, 2025, 10:15:51 PM »

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Cleveland Cavaliers: perhaps a second-round exit?

If we win tomorrow the deficit will be down to 4 games! If we end up being tied with Cleveland for the best record in the east, who gets the tiebreaker?

The next tiebreaker would be intraconference record...so between the Cavs and Celtics, who has a better record/win % at beating Eastern conference teams division record and whoever has the better division record that team is the #1 seed. At least according to ChatGPT lol.

But it needs to work both ways. Cavs need to lose 4 games while Boston needs to win 4 more games, which I doubt will happen. Still happy with the #2 seed, even without HCA all the way through the Finals (if we make it there).


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Re: NBA Season 2024-25
« Reply #2284 on: March 28, 2025, 10:53:20 PM »

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Charlotte Hornets star LaMelo Ball will miss the rest of the season as he undergoes two minor procedures to address ankle and wrist issues, sources tell ESPN. Ball showed toughness, playing through pain in recent weeks, before he and team consulted doctors on   :):)best :) course forward.

We're gonna see a lot more of this soon. Teams are really dedicated on Capturing the Flagg  :P

Utah announced Clarkson would be ruled out the rest of the season recently, soon I'm sure a lot of these bad teams will announce a mass of "this player will miss rest of the season, they really wanted to play but we think it's best for them!"

I want Boston to fly ? The Flagg ?  :)

Would be pretty cool if he ends up in Boston at some point. Flagg will only be 18 when he gets drafted, So maybe he does what Hayward did and comes to the C?s when he?s in his mid to late 20?s. :)
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Re: NBA Season 2024-25
« Reply #2285 on: March 29, 2025, 07:13:55 AM »

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Detroit has a good thing going on, they could be top 4 next season in the East with another top free agent signing
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« Reply #2286 on: March 29, 2025, 10:43:53 AM »

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Ja Morant remained supportive of Taylor Jenkins until his dismissal as head coach of the Memphis Grizzlies on Friday, sources tell The Athletic.
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Morant has complained about the Grizzlies' new offensive scheme installed this season, which took the ball out of his hands and also used less frequent on-ball screens.

?Some days he looks like he?s ready to play, and some days he looks like he doesn?t want to be there ? because he hates the offense,? said one source.

That does not surprise me. He has looked unhappy in that offense whenever I have seen Memphis play. He doesn't have the same control of the ball, amount of time on the ball. The lack of PnR opportunities in favour of the dribble drive one-on-one basketball.

You would think Morant would succeed in a spaced out offense built around one-on-one basketball but he has struggled all year. He looked much more comfortable in their previous offense.

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But when it came to Taylor Jenkins and his future in ?Grind City,? the writing was on the wall last summer. And it was written in tears.

In early July, three months after a disastrous, injury-riddled 27-55 season had come to an end, the Grizzlies front office, led by executive vice president of basketball operations Zach Kleiman, made the unilateral choice to swap out five members of Jenkins? coaching staff.

For Jenkins, who was hired by Memphis as a first-time head coach in the summer of 2019 and went on to record more wins than any coach in the franchise?s 30-year history (250-214), that meant saying goodbye to Blake Ahearn, Brad Jones, Scoonie Penn, Sonia Raman and Vitaly Potapenko. Per league and team sources, Jenkins became emotional in those final exchanges with his jettisoned coaching colleagues.

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While Jenkins consulted with the front-office on the hires for six replacements to his staff, those final interactions between Jenkins and the assistants he was forced to fire, league sources say, would set an uneasy tone for the season to come. As some close to the Grizzlies saw the situation, it was only a matter of time before Jenkins would be gone, too.

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The Grizzlies can?t seem to beat top-notch competition. They have lost nine consecutive games to teams at or above .500 by an average of 12.8 points.

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The defense has dipped during this 22-game falloff, over which Memphis is allowing 116.7 points per 100 possessions, 19th in the NBA. The return of Defensive Player of the Year candidate Jaren Jackson Jr., who missed five games after spraining his left ankle on March 3 and returned two weeks ago, hasn?t solved the issues. The team had vaulted to the top five in defense for most of the season?s first half. But over the preceding weeks, league sources said, the Grizzlies worried greatly about buy-in.

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Now it?s Iisalo?s job to persuade these Grizzlies to get back to winning. Memphis enticed him to come over from Europe this season with an above-market deal for an assistant worth millions, and also paid a buyout to Paris Basketball, according to league sources.

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League sources say Morant, in particular, was upset that last summer the team let go of one assistant with whom he was particularly close, Ahearn, who worked with the two-time All-Star more than anyone on staff. This season, Morant worked most commonly with LaRoche, a former trainer with individual players who was in his first season as an NBA assistant and, like Iisalo, played a pivotal part in implementing the new offensive system.

They fired this LaRoche guy as well as Jenkins.

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Jenkins had begun to reinstall some of the plays Morant likes, a league source said, reimplementing the pick-and-roll and other plays involving screens Morant could use to break free. If doing so angered Kleiman and played a role in Jenkins? firing, one could understand, but LaRoche was the driving force behind the Grizzlies going away from ball screens to begin with ? and he?s gone too.

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And firing Morant?s only coach, while the Grizzlies are headed for the playoffs with just two weeks left in the regular season, isn?t going to quell questions about where, exactly, the franchise is headed. Or, more importantly in league circles, whether Morant will want to remain there for the long term.

So they fired Morant's main development coach Ahearn last summer. Which upset Morant. Then Morant worked with this new guy LaRoche. Now they have fired him too.

The article says Jenkins was installing some old Grizzlies plays to try and appease Morant. They said this angered the front office who wanted to maintain the new-offense 100%. So they have doubled down on this offense by firing Jenkins.

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Is LaRoche that St Joseph's coach that had a lot of success with the dribble drive offense?

I know that coach was on their staff too. Not sure if it is the same guy. Youtube bball coaching vids were raving about his offense 3-4 years ago. Same offense as this new head coach. If so, surprising that they let him go as well as Jenkins. Not sure what is going on there.

Also some of these pieces call him Nate LaRoche and other listings have him as Noah LaRoche. Not sure which one is right.
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Re: NBA Season 2024-25
« Reply #2287 on: March 29, 2025, 12:09:13 PM »

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Pistons record today = 42 wins 32 losses

Record on Jan 01 = 14 wins 18 losses. So they have had 28 wins and only 14 losses since the turn of the New Year. That is a 55 win pace over the course of a full season.

You could go back to Mid December when Detroit were 10 wins and 16 losses for a 32 win 16 loss record. Same win rate. Even larger sample size.

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« Reply #2288 on: March 29, 2025, 12:29:16 PM »

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Pistons record today = 42 wins 32 losses

Record on Jan 01 = 14 wins 18 losses. So they have had 28 wins and only 14 losses since the turn of the New Year. That is a 55 win pace over the course of a full season.

You could go back to Mid December when Detroit were 10 wins and 16 losses for a 32 win 16 loss record. Same win rate. Even larger sample size.

They're gonna be a pain in the butt in the playoffs. 


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Re: NBA Season 2024-25
« Reply #2289 on: March 29, 2025, 12:33:06 PM »

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Re: NBA Season 2024-25
« Reply #2290 on: March 29, 2025, 01:24:54 PM »

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Pistons record today = 42 wins 32 losses

Record on Jan 01 = 14 wins 18 losses. So they have had 28 wins and only 14 losses since the turn of the New Year. That is a 55 win pace over the course of a full season.

You could go back to Mid December when Detroit were 10 wins and 16 losses for a 32 win 16 loss record. Same win rate. Even larger sample size.

They're gonna be a pain in the butt in the playoffs.

Not to look too far ahead, but things could work out well for us in the first two rounds. Decent chance we face Atlanta in the first round, or Orlando, but likely not Chicago unless they leap Orlando for the 8 seed and get into that matchup. That's good, CHI has been red hot and is not a team I'd want to face.

Meanwhile, MIL has slipped to the 6 seed and will likely stay there. That means our 2nd round could be either the Knicks or Bucks without Lillard. That's good.

And then in the process, IND/DET/CLE can cannibalize each other in the other side of the bracket
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« Reply #2291 on: March 29, 2025, 02:11:00 PM »

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Pistons record today = 42 wins 32 losses

Record on Jan 01 = 14 wins 18 losses. So they have had 28 wins and only 14 losses since the turn of the New Year. That is a 55 win pace over the course of a full season.

You could go back to Mid December when Detroit were 10 wins and 16 losses for a 32 win 16 loss record. Same win rate. Even larger sample size.

They're gonna be a pain in the butt in the playoffs.

Not to look too far ahead, but things could work out well for us in the first two rounds. Decent chance we face Atlanta in the first round, or Orlando, but likely not Chicago unless they leap Orlando for the 8 seed and get into that matchup. That's good, CHI has been red hot and is not a team I'd want to face.

Meanwhile, MIL has slipped to the 6 seed and will likely stay there. That means our 2nd round could be either the Knicks or Bucks without Lillard. That's good.

And then in the process, IND/DET/CLE can cannibalize each other in the other side of the bracket

At that point, it's very likely the Pacers may be waiting in the Eastern Conference Finals. Especially with how Cleveland's been playing the last 10 games


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Re: NBA Season 2024-25
« Reply #2292 on: March 29, 2025, 02:27:44 PM »

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Pistons record today = 42 wins 32 losses

Record on Jan 01 = 14 wins 18 losses. So they have had 28 wins and only 14 losses since the turn of the New Year. That is a 55 win pace over the course of a full season.

You could go back to Mid December when Detroit were 10 wins and 16 losses for a 32 win 16 loss record. Same win rate. Even larger sample size.

They're gonna be a pain in the butt in the playoffs.

Not to look too far ahead, but things could work out well for us in the first two rounds. Decent chance we face Atlanta in the first round, or Orlando, but likely not Chicago unless they leap Orlando for the 8 seed and get into that matchup. That's good, CHI has been red hot and is not a team I'd want to face.

Meanwhile, MIL has slipped to the 6 seed and will likely stay there. That means our 2nd round could be either the Knicks or Bucks without Lillard. That's good.

And then in the process, IND/DET/CLE can cannibalize each other in the other side of the bracket

At that point, it's very likely the Pacers may be waiting in the Eastern Conference Finals. Especially with how Cleveland's been playing the last 10 games

I'd still be surprised if that were the case, but I do agree right now I'd rank the East:

1. Cleveland
2. Boston
3. Indiana
4. Detroit
5. New York

(Yeah I'd have DET slightly above NY right now even when Brunson returns, but in a playoff series if they met maybe I'd still take NY in 7 simply because of experience + HCA)
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« Reply #2293 on: March 29, 2025, 02:54:15 PM »

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Pistons record today = 42 wins 32 losses

Record on Jan 01 = 14 wins 18 losses. So they have had 28 wins and only 14 losses since the turn of the New Year. That is a 55 win pace over the course of a full season.

You could go back to Mid December when Detroit were 10 wins and 16 losses for a 32 win 16 loss record. Same win rate. Even larger sample size.

They're gonna be a pain in the butt in the playoffs.

Not to look too far ahead, but things could work out well for us in the first two rounds. Decent chance we face Atlanta in the first round, or Orlando, but likely not Chicago unless they leap Orlando for the 8 seed and get into that matchup. That's good, CHI has been red hot and is not a team I'd want to face.

Meanwhile, MIL has slipped to the 6 seed and will likely stay there. That means our 2nd round could be either the Knicks or Bucks without Lillard. That's good.

And then in the process, IND/DET/CLE can cannibalize each other in the other side of the bracket

At that point, it's very likely the Pacers may be waiting in the Eastern Conference Finals. Especially with how Cleveland's been playing the last 10 games

I'd still be surprised if that were the case, but I do agree right now I'd rank the East:

1. Cleveland
2. Boston
3. Indiana
4. Detroit
5. New York

(Yeah I'd have DET slightly above NY right now even when Brunson returns, but in a playoff series if they met maybe I'd still take NY in 7 simply because of experience + HCA)

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Re: NBA Season 2024-25
« Reply #2294 on: March 29, 2025, 02:59:31 PM »

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I am interested to see how Milwaukee play without Lillard.

I'd like to see them move Taureen Prince to the bench in favour of a true SG. They started Ryan Rollins the other night at PG in order to keep Kevin Porter Jr in his scoring guard off the bench role.

I am interested to see how much they could maintain their offense perhaps with two shooters at guard alongside Giannis. Gary Trent Jr and AJ Green. Dare people to double Giannis. They have Brook as a shooter too. Kuzma the only dodgy shooter off the ball there. Get Portis back. Big defensive frontcourt. T Prince off the bench as well. Two combo sized guards in the backcourt instead of the smaller Lillard. May be able to play better defense without Lillard. Kevin Porter Jr off the bench who is a big combo guard as well. So they could play with no small guards in their lineup + a huge frontcourt that could make them even more imposing defensively without Lillard around.

I am interested to see how they cope without Lillard before writing them off as below Detroit, Indiana, New York. The Bucks could be able to cope better than expected without Lillard. Particularly once Bobby Portis comes back at end of regular season.