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Re: NBA Season 2024-25
« Reply #1710 on: February 25, 2025, 11:39:07 AM »

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What a comeback and block by Ant on Shai on the go-ahead layup!

This would be an awful, awful loss.

Minny took the mini series 2-1. Didn?t have Gobert or Randle either. Thunder are pretenders.

How does going 1-2 to go to 46-11 make you a pretender??

They crumble under pressure. Just like in the playoffs last year.

This is a weird take. I think we take the 55 game sample size, adding hartenstein, Caruso and another year of maturity from all their young guys (with huge jumps for some like Williams) over a team playing Gordon Hayward scoreless minutes and starting Josh giddey and three regular season games

Regular season wins don?t mean much. SGA is great, but Jalen Williams didn?t take a huge jump. He?s basically doing what he did last year. Until Chet becomes an all-star I don?t think that core is good enough. Proof will be in the playoffs, like last season.

This Thunder team reminds me of the C's when they were going to the ECF and lost to the Warriors.  In a year or two they will be in the same place the C's are in now.  To much talent and they still have so many assets but when Chet and JW need resigned the clock will start ticking fast because of the luxury tax.  The Thunder still have a ton of draft capital as well.

The Thunder don?t have a legitimate #2 option, so I?m not sure how you can view them similarly to that Celtics team. They also lost in the second round last year. Jalen Williams isn?t even close to being on the same level as Jaylen Brown. JB averaged 27pts/7rebs that season.
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Re: NBA Season 2024-25
« Reply #1711 on: February 25, 2025, 11:43:21 AM »

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What a comeback and block by Ant on Shai on the go-ahead layup!

This would be an awful, awful loss.

Minny took the mini series 2-1. Didn?t have Gobert or Randle either. Thunder are pretenders.

How does going 1-2 to go to 46-11 make you a pretender??

They crumble under pressure. Just like in the playoffs last year.

This is a weird take. I think we take the 55 game sample size, adding hartenstein, Caruso and another year of maturity from all their young guys (with huge jumps for some like Williams) over a team playing Gordon Hayward scoreless minutes and starting Josh giddey and three regular season games

Regular season wins don?t mean much. SGA is great, but Jalen Williams didn?t take a huge jump. He?s basically doing what he did last year. Until Chet becomes an all-star I don?t think that core is good enough. Proof will be in the playoffs, like last season.

This Thunder team reminds me of the C's when they were going to the ECF and lost to the Warriors.  In a year or two they will be in the same place the C's are in now.  To much talent and they still have so many assets but when Chet and JW need resigned the clock will start ticking fast because of the luxury tax.  The Thunder still have a ton of draft capital as well.

The Thunder don?t have a legitimate #2 option, so I?m not sure how you can view them similarly to that Celtics team. They also lost in the second round last year. Jalen Williams isn?t even close to being on the same level as Jaylen Brown.

There aren't many guys as good as JB.  But, Williams is a 21 / 6 / 5 guy with good defense.  That's fine for a second option.


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Re: NBA Season 2024-25
« Reply #1712 on: February 25, 2025, 12:42:41 PM »

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What a comeback and block by Ant on Shai on the go-ahead layup!

This would be an awful, awful loss.

Minny took the mini series 2-1. Didn?t have Gobert or Randle either. Thunder are pretenders.

How does going 1-2 to go to 46-11 make you a pretender??

They crumble under pressure. Just like in the playoffs last year.

This is a weird take. I think we take the 55 game sample size, adding hartenstein, Caruso and another year of maturity from all their young guys (with huge jumps for some like Williams) over a team playing Gordon Hayward scoreless minutes and starting Josh giddey and three regular season games

Regular season wins don?t mean much. SGA is great, but Jalen Williams didn?t take a huge jump. He?s basically doing what he did last year. Until Chet becomes an all-star I don?t think that core is good enough. Proof will be in the playoffs, like last season.

This Thunder team reminds me of the C's when they were going to the ECF and lost to the Warriors.  In a year or two they will be in the same place the C's are in now.  To much talent and they still have so many assets but when Chet and JW need resigned the clock will start ticking fast because of the luxury tax.  The Thunder still have a ton of draft capital as well.

The Thunder don?t have a legitimate #2 option, so I?m not sure how you can view them similarly to that Celtics team. They also lost in the second round last year. Jalen Williams isn?t even close to being on the same level as Jaylen Brown.

There aren't many guys as good as JB.  But, Williams is a 21 / 6 / 5 guy with good defense.  That's fine for a second option.

I?m not sure about that. He certainly wasn?t good enough in last years playoffs.
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Re: NBA Season 2024-25
« Reply #1713 on: February 25, 2025, 12:46:29 PM »

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What a comeback and block by Ant on Shai on the go-ahead layup!

This would be an awful, awful loss.

Minny took the mini series 2-1. Didn?t have Gobert or Randle either. Thunder are pretenders.

How does going 1-2 to go to 46-11 make you a pretender??

They crumble under pressure. Just like in the playoffs last year.

This is a weird take. I think we take the 55 game sample size, adding hartenstein, Caruso and another year of maturity from all their young guys (with huge jumps for some like Williams) over a team playing Gordon Hayward scoreless minutes and starting Josh giddey and three regular season games

Regular season wins don?t mean much. SGA is great, but Jalen Williams didn?t take a huge jump. He?s basically doing what he did last year. Until Chet becomes an all-star I don?t think that core is good enough. Proof will be in the playoffs, like last season.

This Thunder team reminds me of the C's when they were going to the ECF and lost to the Warriors.  In a year or two they will be in the same place the C's are in now.  To much talent and they still have so many assets but when Chet and JW need resigned the clock will start ticking fast because of the luxury tax.  The Thunder still have a ton of draft capital as well.

The Thunder don?t have a legitimate #2 option, so I?m not sure how you can view them similarly to that Celtics team. They also lost in the second round last year. Jalen Williams isn?t even close to being on the same level as Jaylen Brown.

There aren't many guys as good as JB.  But, Williams is a 21 / 6 / 5 guy with good defense.  That's fine for a second option.

I?m not sure about that. He certainly wasn?t good enough in last years playoffs.

Lots of guys have had bad playoff series, including JT, JB, and Saint Joe.


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Re: NBA Season 2024-25
« Reply #1714 on: February 25, 2025, 01:49:33 PM »

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Utah has worst luck along with Toronto on staying healthy..just saw  Clarkson, Lauri, Collins & Kessler all out again tonight
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Re: NBA Season 2024-25
« Reply #1715 on: February 25, 2025, 03:05:24 PM »

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Josh Giddey has been on a roll in February.

9 games played. 31.4mpg.

19.8ppg
8.1rpg
5.1apg

TS% = 65.7%

Yep. He?s been killing it for my fantasy team!  :laugh:
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Re: NBA Season 2024-25
« Reply #1716 on: February 25, 2025, 03:48:45 PM »

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Utah has worst luck along with Toronto on staying healthy..just saw  Clarkson, Lauri, Collins & Kessler all out again tonight

I know they've been dealing with some injuries but I also just think it's a combination of them tanking and also getting their young guys (George, Collier, etc.) way more playing time and experience.
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Re: NBA Season 2024-25
« Reply #1717 on: February 25, 2025, 03:57:53 PM »

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I only see two teams capable of beating OKC in a series. Cleveland and Boston.

Denver to me just doesn't have the bench to do it. And frankly, I'm a bit surprised when I see people saying they think LAL has a "good chance" to beat OKC. We can talk about Lebron and Luka, fine, but realistically who on LAL is stopping SGA? Because it certainly ain't Reaves and Doncic. LAL's defense to me is still very iffy.

I also think LAL not having a legit frontcourt will bite them especially if both iHart and Chet are healthy for OKC. Maybe a year or two ago I would have but I don't see it, I think OKC would beat LAL in 5 or 6.
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« Reply #1718 on: February 25, 2025, 04:34:24 PM »

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I only see two teams capable of beating OKC in a series. Cleveland and Boston.

Denver to me just doesn't have the bench to do it. And frankly, I'm a bit surprised when I see people saying they think LAL has a "good chance" to beat OKC. We can talk about Lebron and Luka, fine, but realistically who on LAL is stopping SGA? Because it certainly ain't Reaves and Doncic. LAL's defense to me is still very iffy.

I also think LAL not having a legit frontcourt will bite them especially if both iHart and Chet are healthy for OKC. Maybe a year or two ago I would have but I don't see it, I think OKC would beat LAL in 5 or 6.

Golden State? Can they beat OKC?

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« Reply #1719 on: February 25, 2025, 05:25:18 PM »

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Re: NBA Season 2024-25
« Reply #1720 on: February 25, 2025, 05:58:04 PM »

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What a comeback and block by Ant on Shai on the go-ahead layup!

This would be an awful, awful loss.
And the ESPN headline was ?Ant caps furious Wolves rally with block on SGA?.

The headline tells you all you need to know about the Media narrative. Wolves were down 16 with 4:00 to go. Ant was on the bench, conceding defeat. Wolves made furious rally and forced OT. Ant didn?t come back in until 2:00 to go in OT. He missed his only shot. He did get a steal and a block to seal the game but if Cs did that with Tatum on the bench I guarantee the headline would be different.

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« Reply #1721 on: February 25, 2025, 07:18:14 PM »

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Oh wow, so that top 6 protected Philly pick was / is part of the Al Horford trade Philly made to dump him to OKC.

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« Reply #1722 on: February 25, 2025, 08:14:52 PM »

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« Reply #1723 on: February 25, 2025, 08:26:33 PM »

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I only see two teams capable of beating OKC in a series. Cleveland and Boston.

Denver to me just doesn't have the bench to do it. And frankly, I'm a bit surprised when I see people saying they think LAL has a "good chance" to beat OKC. We can talk about Lebron and Luka, fine, but realistically who on LAL is stopping SGA? Because it certainly ain't Reaves and Doncic. LAL's defense to me is still very iffy.

I also think LAL not having a legit frontcourt will bite them especially if both iHart and Chet are healthy for OKC. Maybe a year or two ago I would have but I don't see it, I think OKC would beat LAL in 5 or 6.

Golden State? Can they beat OKC?

I would pick Golden State over them. Same for Minnesota who just beat OKC 2 out of 3 without Randle or Gobert. Denver would probably be a coin flip.
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Re: NBA Season 2024-25
« Reply #1724 on: February 25, 2025, 08:38:43 PM »

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I only see two teams capable of beating OKC in a series. Cleveland and Boston.

Denver to me just doesn't have the bench to do it. And frankly, I'm a bit surprised when I see people saying they think LAL has a "good chance" to beat OKC. We can talk about Lebron and Luka, fine, but realistically who on LAL is stopping SGA? Because it certainly ain't Reaves and Doncic. LAL's defense to me is still very iffy.

I also think LAL not having a legit frontcourt will bite them especially if both iHart and Chet are healthy for OKC. Maybe a year or two ago I would have but I don't see it, I think OKC would beat LAL in 5 or 6.

Golden State? Can they beat OKC?

I would pick Golden State over them. Same for Minnesota who just beat OKC 2 out of 3 without Randle or Gobert. Denver would probably be a coin flip.

I'd pick OKC over Golden State in 6. I know they went 1-2 against MIN but to MIN's credit, they had a furious rally to comeback last night and force OT. I'm not expecting that to always happen. Denver could but I just think their bench is not good enough. Jokic and Murray would have to carry them to an extreme level.
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