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Re: Patriots 2024 Season
« Reply #105 on: September 20, 2024, 04:24:25 PM »

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I think one more poor week from the team and Brissett (and it seems likely, it's the Niners lol), and we could see Maye as early as Week 5 against the Dolphins and Skylar Thompson. And in theory it's a good spot for Maye because the opponent is Skylar Thompson and at home.

The fact that they bought Maye into last night's game to me is actually a bit telling. I don't think they do that unless they think "okay we need to get his feet wet a bit and see what he can do on this drive". They aren't stupid, they know the public perceptions. If they wanted to really shelve Maye most if not all of the season they would be fine just having Brissett out there handing it off to the very end of the game, or just punting it away.

I know the fear of putting Maye behind this O-Line, but at the same time there's no guarantee our O-Line will even be good in 2025, and in the NFL you will get sacked or have to take hits. So if the O-Line is bad next year does that mean sit Maye for another year?

Maye did not look ready for NFL speed.  He was slow to read the field at times even in college against ACC opposition.  Now he's jumping to the highest level behind an OL that will not help smooth his transition. 

Nah just let Brissett survive for as long as he can this year.  It's a bridge/tank year anyway.  It seems predictable that he'll break down at some point, and then it'll be Maye's turn.  In the meantime get him as many practice reps as he can handle.  I'm admittedly not super high on the kid but hopefully we can speed up that processor somehow.


Completely agree. Spot on.
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Re: Patriots 2024 Season
« Reply #106 on: September 20, 2024, 04:39:46 PM »

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The most annoying thing to me about last nights game was putting Maye in, letting him drive down to the Jets 7 yard line, then just letting the clock run out and hit the showers.

They had multiple timeouts to use, why not try to get a score for the kid?? Give him a little bump in confidence running a 2 minute drill and finishing a drive while also making the score a little more respectable for the team. Head scratcher for sure
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Re: Patriots 2024 Season
« Reply #107 on: September 20, 2024, 10:00:19 PM »

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The most annoying thing to me about last nights game was putting Maye in, letting him drive down to the Jets 7 yard line, then just letting the clock run out and hit the showers.

They had multiple timeouts to use, why not try to get a score for the kid?? Give him a little bump in confidence running a 2 minute drill and finishing a drive while also making the score a little more respectable for the team. Head scratcher for sure

I actually thought it was fitting how it ended. Pats finally have a somewhat decent drive. Maye has a good scramble and like two good passes including a nice 4th down conversion. Way more than what Brissett and the others did earlier. But then at the end just gets sacked easily and the drive + game end. Small glimmers of hope tossed away.

I agree with @Atzar's response above. My gut feeling though is... if we see another poor week I think the Krafts and the higher-ups are gonna get "antsy". No way fans are gonna feel "interested" if they just keep going with Brissett and it's predictably mediocre. They will care a bit about the ratings and hype.

But with all that said, it all might be moot anyways. Brissett's been a warrior getting up after every hit/sack but you wonder how long he can hold up. Not wishing injuries but it seems like one could be coming for Brissett if this keeps up, then they'll have no choice but to go to Maye
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Re: Patriots 2024 Season
« Reply #108 on: September 20, 2024, 10:31:51 PM »

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Having a superb, top-notch defense does nothing if your offense is dogs---...there's no balance.

Throw our defense out there more times than our offense and they'll tire out and get exploited. Our offense can't generate and score. Our offense can't even protect the passer for 2 seconds.

I guess special teams unit is doing okay...


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Re: Patriots 2024 Season
« Reply #109 on: September 25, 2024, 11:02:06 PM »

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Oooof, SF -10.5 at home against New England this Sunday.

SF just might cover the spread with how pitiful our offense is. And the 49ers dropped two in a row so they're probably gonna be coming in angry.


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Re: Patriots 2024 Season
« Reply #110 on: September 26, 2024, 07:55:59 AM »

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I think one more poor week from the team and Brissett (and it seems likely, it's the Niners lol), and we could see Maye as early as Week 5 against the Dolphins and Skylar Thompson. And in theory it's a good spot for Maye because the opponent is Skylar Thompson and at home.

The fact that they bought Maye into last night's game to me is actually a bit telling. I don't think they do that unless they think "okay we need to get his feet wet a bit and see what he can do on this drive". They aren't stupid, they know the public perceptions. If they wanted to really shelve Maye most if not all of the season they would be fine just having Brissett out there handing it off to the very end of the game, or just punting it away.

I know the fear of putting Maye behind this O-Line, but at the same time there's no guarantee our O-Line will even be good in 2025, and in the NFL you will get sacked or have to take hits. So if the O-Line is bad next year does that mean sit Maye for another year?

Maye did not look ready for NFL speed.  He was slow to read the field at times even in college against ACC opposition.  Now he's jumping to the highest level behind an OL that will not help smooth his transition. 

Nah just let Brissett survive for as long as he can this year.  It's a bridge/tank year anyway.  It seems predictable that he'll break down at some point, and then it'll be Maye's turn.  In the meantime get him as many practice reps as he can handle.  I'm admittedly not super high on the kid but hopefully we can speed up that processor somehow.


Completely agree. Spot on.

I don't think Maye has looked ready either.  If he is doing 30% of the 1st team snaps in practice, I am sure he is getting closer.  He is probably close enough that they could play him, but I doubt it would be pretty.

The way I see it is that having a veteran QB is way better for the rest of the team.  We have an OL that doesn't seem to know what it is doing and young receivers that are figuring it out.  Having a veteran QB is going to help the OL learn and help the receivers learn.  If Maye was the QB, I think the fear is that it would just add even more inexperience to the chaos.  The OL and receivers will develop slower with Maye as the QB.

I think every week they can get out of Brissett is good for Maye, good for the OL, and good for the receivers.  Probably good for the coaches too as they figure out what they can do with this limited Patriots team.  At some point, and I don't know exactly when that point is, the OL and WRs are kind of what they are and each additional week playing with Brissett vs. Maye makes less and less difference.

Re: Patriots 2024 Season
« Reply #111 on: September 26, 2024, 11:08:40 AM »

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When is the Patriot's bye week?


That would be the best time to make a change if the goal is to prepare the QB of the future vs. just hoping to try and shake things up to win.   



Re: Patriots 2024 Season
« Reply #112 on: September 26, 2024, 11:33:18 AM »

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When is the Patriot's bye week?


That would be the best time to make a change if the goal is to prepare the QB of the future vs. just hoping to try and shake things up to win.

I?ve said for a bit that?s when the switch will happen.  It?s very late, 12/8, so the Pats will be out of the playoffs and they can give Maye a month of game action at the end of the season.

Re: Patriots 2024 Season
« Reply #113 on: September 26, 2024, 11:36:03 AM »

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When is the Patriot's bye week?


That would be the best time to make a change if the goal is to prepare the QB of the future vs. just hoping to try and shake things up to win.

I?ve said for a bit that?s when the switch will happen.  It?s very late, 12/8, so the Pats will be out of the playoffs and they can give Maye a month of game action at the end of the season.

Yeah. Bye is week 14.  Finish the season with Cards, Bills twice & Chargers.


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Re: Patriots 2024 Season
« Reply #114 on: September 26, 2024, 06:27:08 PM »

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I still think the best time for Maye to come in would be early November, against either the Titans or Bears. By then it's halfway into the year and Titans/Bears aren't "elite" teams so it could be like a soft landing for Maye to enter.

With that said though, some of it will depend on Brissett and his health. If he goes down, then no choice but to bring Maye in. But also, if Brissett happens to look horrific in the Niners game, then I wouldn't be surprised to see Maye start Week 5 against Miami and Skylar Thompson at home.

There has been some steam picking up on Maye potentially starting "sooner rather than later" and it's from pretty reputable guys like Perillo, Breer, etc.

The Pats are a terrible team and likely gonna finish with a bad record, but I have to imagine ratings and interest-level will play a factor too. Because I doubt NE fans will be interested if they keep playing Brissett and he does poorly while the team is "boring" again like last year. I mean call me a bad fan but if we see more games like last Thursday with Brissett also looking bad and Maye just on the sidelines, then I will lose interest too. At least we could be "fun bad" and have some flashes with Maye in there.
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Re: Patriots 2024 Season
« Reply #115 on: September 26, 2024, 10:13:18 PM »

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This Week 14 bye-week would be great for our Brady-Patriots team.

But for this Brissett/Maye-led Patriots team? We need an early bye. Like a Week 5 or Week 6 bye. Give them an early rest and have them grind it out the rest of the way. Give the young folks some reps.


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Re: Patriots 2024 Season
« Reply #116 on: September 26, 2024, 10:44:19 PM »

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If only the Pats had a WR1...
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Re: Patriots 2024 Season
« Reply #117 on: September 29, 2024, 02:20:38 PM »

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The Jets probably felt pretty good about their drubbing of the Pats last week - even though it was the Pats. They look pretty inept so far today on offense.  Their 3 points came mostly from a PI call in the end zone, after which (1st and goal from the 1) they ran three unsuccessful plays and were probably saved from going pointless by a false start on 4th down which forced them to take the FG. Up 3-0 a Denver who?s also been pretty hapless on offense. Through a quarter and a half, Bo Nix has -7 yards passing, Rodgers has 16.

Re: Patriots 2024 Season
« Reply #118 on: September 29, 2024, 02:28:21 PM »

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Malik Nabers added to the Giants and he's certainly helping Daniel Jones

If only the Pats had a WR1...

Yeah, like MHJ.  :D
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Re: Patriots 2024 Season
« Reply #119 on: September 29, 2024, 02:29:27 PM »

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The Jets probably felt pretty good about their drubbing of the Pats last week - even though it was the Pats. They look pretty inept so far today on offense.  Their 3 points came mostly from a PI call in the end zone, after which (1st and goal from the 1) they ran three unsuccessful plays and were probably saved from going pointless by a false start on 4th down which forced them to take the FG. Up 3-0 a Denver who?s also been pretty hapless on offense. Through a quarter and a half, Bo Nix has -7 yards passing, Rodgers has 16.

I think the weather being terrible and Denver having a good defense is a factor as well.
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