Patriots 2024 Season

[Vermont Green]

David Andrews likely done for the season with a shoulder injury. Seems like this will make a Maye sighting less likely anytime soon. Either way, though, Pats O-line just got a lot worse, and the Pats might have the No. 1 pick in the bag.

There has been talk of Cole Strange converting to Center.  Not sure when he is due back from his injury.  If we have Sow, Strange, Onwenu as the G-C-G, that isn't bad.  Just need some tackles.

I would be very suprised if we saw Drake Maye anytime soon.

[Phantom255x]

David Andrews likely done for the season with a shoulder injury. Seems like this will make a Maye sighting less likely anytime soon. Either way, though, Pats O-line just got a lot worse, and the Pats might have the No. 1 pick in the bag.

There has been talk of Cole Strange converting to Center.  Not sure when he is due back from his injury.  If we have Sow, Strange, Onwenu as the G-C-G, that isn't bad.  Just need some tackles.

I would be very suprised if we saw Drake Maye anytime soon.

I lowkey think Strange is pretty much done for this year and they are just not announcing it publicly. But it's a nice thought for beyond 2024, having Strange fill in at Center with Jake Andrews the backup behind him (he's on IR this season unfortunately).

The first round pick next season has to be tackle. Just has to be. LSU, Oklahoma, Texas, scout them all.

[Neurotic Guy]

David Andrews likely done for the season with a shoulder injury. Seems like this will make a Maye sighting less likely anytime soon. Either way, though, Pats O-line just got a lot worse, and the Pats might have the No. 1 pick in the bag.

There has been talk of Cole Strange converting to Center.  Not sure when he is due back from his injury.  If we have Sow, Strange, Onwenu as the G-C-G, that isn't bad.  Just need some tackles.

I would be very suprised if we saw Drake Maye anytime soon.

I lowkey think Strange is pretty much done for this year and they are just not announcing it publicly. But it's a nice thought for beyond 2024, having Strange fill in at Center with Jake Andrews the backup behind him (he's on IR this season unfortunately).

The first round pick next season has to be tackle. Just has to be. LSU, Oklahoma, Texas, scout them all.

I?m definitely on the get the #1 pick train. Always try to win and if they can develop players and play competitively, great. But I?m not crying if they finish 1-16 and decide to fire AVP,  maybe Wolfe too, fine.   Pats take their pick and trade back, fix the line as top priority, continue to seek a diamond at WR, but best to purchase that diamond in FA. 

[Vermont Green]

I don't know who is going to emerge as the top pick, maybe a QB, just don't follow College Football enough to know.  The Bears did really well trading the top pick a few years back so I am not against that as an outcome.

I guess in regard to knowing whether Maye is a keeper or not, they will probably need to play him at some point.  The way it goes with top QB picks, it is 50-50 whether Maye will bust or not.  So there is a reasonable probability that they could be in the market for another QB next draft.  I have not given up on Maye, quite the opposite, I remain fairly high on him.  But you just don't know until you know.

[Ilikesports17]

I didn't they played all that bad, all things considered. The defense gave them a chance. The O Line however gives them no chance to be competitive against decent teams. The left tackle and right guard both got beaten like drums all day. They absolutely suck. Also the tackle they drafted in the 3rd round this year went down along with Andrews. It's not going to get any better.

Jacoby is what he is and always has been - a serviceable backup who you can't win with if he has to play too many games. He's not very good. But this line can't pass protect to save its life. Its only a matter of time before Jacoby goes down. Another reason not to rush Maye to play.

Why not draft a tackle with in R2?  The WR they took, Polk gets no separation. He's not looking like a great pick at this point. Then they signed that Okafur guy who in theory would have started and he lasted 12 plays before quitting on them.

Their coaching isn't bad. Their offensive personnel continues to suck. I'm not sold on Wolf as a personnel guy at this point either.

Yeah, I didn?t like that pick at all. Baker isn?t looking good either. It?s almost like the Patriots aren?t good at drafting WR?s.

Polk has little production but his advanced metrics, specifically separation are extremely good through 4 games. Brissett just hasn?t been able to find him.

Baker is a 5th round pick. They mostly suck anyway

[Neurotic Guy]

I didn't they played all that bad, all things considered. The defense gave them a chance. The O Line however gives them no chance to be competitive against decent teams. The left tackle and right guard both got beaten like drums all day. They absolutely suck. Also the tackle they drafted in the 3rd round this year went down along with Andrews. It's not going to get any better.

Jacoby is what he is and always has been - a serviceable backup who you can't win with if he has to play too many games. He's not very good. But this line can't pass protect to save its life. Its only a matter of time before Jacoby goes down. Another reason not to rush Maye to play.

Why not draft a tackle with in R2?  The WR they took, Polk gets no separation. He's not looking like a great pick at this point. Then they signed that Okafur guy who in theory would have started and he lasted 12 plays before quitting on them.

Their coaching isn't bad. Their offensive personnel continues to suck. I'm not sold on Wolf as a personnel guy at this point either.

Yeah, I didn?t like that pick at all. Baker isn?t looking good either. It?s almost like the Patriots aren?t good at drafting WR?s.

Polk has little production but his advanced metrics, specifically separation are extremely good through 4 games. Brissett just hasn?t been able to find him.

Baker is a 5th round pick. They mostly suck anyway

How does anyone know about separation without consulting advanced metrics? Does anyone follow Polk?s routs during the game?  My TV doesn?t have a Polk camera.  And incidentally, pass plays for the Pats are remarkably short. How much separation are the best WRs getting within 2 seconds?

[Phantom255x]

I didn't they played all that bad, all things considered. The defense gave them a chance. The O Line however gives them no chance to be competitive against decent teams. The left tackle and right guard both got beaten like drums all day. They absolutely suck. Also the tackle they drafted in the 3rd round this year went down along with Andrews. It's not going to get any better.

Jacoby is what he is and always has been - a serviceable backup who you can't win with if he has to play too many games. He's not very good. But this line can't pass protect to save its life. Its only a matter of time before Jacoby goes down. Another reason not to rush Maye to play.

Why not draft a tackle with in R2?  The WR they took, Polk gets no separation. He's not looking like a great pick at this point. Then they signed that Okafur guy who in theory would have started and he lasted 12 plays before quitting on them.

Their coaching isn't bad. Their offensive personnel continues to suck. I'm not sold on Wolf as a personnel guy at this point either.

Yeah, I didn?t like that pick at all. Baker isn?t looking good either. It?s almost like the Patriots aren?t good at drafting WR?s.

Polk has little production but his advanced metrics, specifically separation are extremely good through 4 games. Brissett just hasn?t been able to find him.

Baker is a 5th round pick. They mostly suck anyway

Yeah there are many instances where Douglas and Polk are wide open if you look at the film or highlights, but Brissett either can't find them or has no time due to pressure.

Even that Pick 6, literally every receiver is wide open and Brissett just throws it right to Warner for the Pick-6. Like what the hell...

I do agree that they should have invested in a tackle with the 2nd round pick though. That's entirely on Elliott Wolf. And the team has 50M in cap space still, so what's that money being saved on exactly? I put that on the Krafts.

[SparzWizard]

Hmmm the Patriots are -1 at home this Sunday...think that's a bit generous

[Goldstar88]

I don't know who is going to emerge as the top pick, maybe a QB, just don't follow College Football enough to know.  The Bears did really well trading the top pick a few years back so I am not against that as an outcome.

I guess in regard to knowing whether Maye is a keeper or not, they will probably need to play him at some point.  The way it goes with top QB picks, it is 50-50 whether Maye will bust or not.  So there is a reasonable probability that they could be in the market for another QB next draft.  I have not given up on Maye, quite the opposite, I remain fairly high on him.  But you just don't know until you know.

I think it?s a lot lower than 50/50. Seems like 1 out of 4 QB?s taken in the first round make it. Just look at the Trevor Lawrence draft.

[Phantom255x]

All I'm gonna say is, it's been bad over the past week but if the Pats lose this week at home to the wretched Dolphins, then look out. It's all going to get 100x worse if that's the case.

If they have another poor start too I can see Gillette booing loudly, although I'm also curious to see how the crowd is. I would think with it being just Week 5 and early October it should be a sellout, but then again are people already sick of being 1-3 AND continuing to start Brissett?

[SparzWizard]

All I'm gonna say is, it's been bad over the past week but if the Pats lose this week at home to the wretched Dolphins, then look out. It's all going to get 100x worse if that's the case.

If they have another poor start too I can see Gillette booing loudly, although I'm also curious to see how the crowd is. I would think with it being just Week 5 and early October it should be a sellout, but then again are people already sick of being 1-3 AND continuing to start Brissett?

The excuse will be "gotta protect Maye so he can't play this year." Sigh

I do hope they drop the home game to the Dolphins and the crowd boos, making Robert Kraft and Wolf look silly. Lack of o-line lol

[Vermont Green]

I don't know who is going to emerge as the top pick, maybe a QB, just don't follow College Football enough to know.  The Bears did really well trading the top pick a few years back so I am not against that as an outcome.

I guess in regard to knowing whether Maye is a keeper or not, they will probably need to play him at some point.  The way it goes with top QB picks, it is 50-50 whether Maye will bust or not.  So there is a reasonable probability that they could be in the market for another QB next draft.  I have not given up on Maye, quite the opposite, I remain fairly high on him.  But you just don't know until you know.

I think it?s a lot lower than 50/50. Seems like 1 out of 4 QB?s taken in the first round make it. Just look at the Trevor Lawrence draft.

Sure, the probability could be even lower than 50/50.  They are seeing him in practice, that certainly should tell them something, but my point is that at this juncture, you don't know yet if Maye is going to make it as an NFL QB or not.  I am in no rush to see them play him just to play him.  I don't get the sense he is ready to run an NFL offense yet.  If they put him in, I expect they would have to keep things very rudimentary. 

But I have come around to wanting to see him out there for at least say 4-5 games at the end of the season so that you have a better opportunity to see what you have.  Maybe the coaching staff can determine that based just on practice, I don't know.  It is probably more likely that he will not ever be an NFL QB than that he will make it (or at best 50-50).  I feel the most important thing is that you need to be sure at the end of this season as to whether he is the answer moving forward or not.

[Neurotic Guy]

I would guess most of us think, or at least have had the thought, that Maye is going to play soon. Not because Mayo has decided to put him in, but because Brissett is going to get hurt.  Hope the injury isn?t too bad, but it feels inevitable.

[A Future of Stevens]

We have 2 blue chip players. Barmore and Gonzalez are legit. Maye could be one, but we won't know for a bit. Other than that this team is devoid of talent. White could be decent. Most of our other decent players are average at best.

Big Mike is legit when we play him at guard, but we play him out of position out of necessity and it's not great.

[Neurotic Guy]

Ugly. Miami is just as awful.