2024 NBA draft:

[gift]

I also read an interesting trade proposal:

Pritchard and 30 to Orlando for the 18.

I really like Pritchard, but I might just do this one to get a shot at a big.

anybody think Edey will be available at 18? because that's tempting for me. even more important that a 3pt shooting big is a BIG big who dominates his area of the floor. i think this opens up the floor so much for the rest of the team. you see it with Porzingis, even though he goes to a high post often and it always bothers me that he doesn't get closer to the basket (even when he scores from there). similar benefit could come from someone like Edey in the lower post. plus, he shows some promise at developing a 3pt shot eventually (maybe).

[tonydelk]

I also read an interesting trade proposal:

Pritchard and 30 to Orlando for the 18.

I really like Pritchard, but I might just do this one to get a shot at a big.

anybody think Edey will be available at 18? because that's tempting for me. even more important that a 3pt shooting big is a BIG big who dominates his area of the floor. i think this opens up the floor so much for the rest of the team. you see it with Porzingis, even though he goes to a high post often and it always bothers me that he doesn't get closer to the basket (even when he scores from there). similar benefit could come from someone like Edey in the lower post. plus, he shows some promise at developing a 3pt shot eventually (maybe).

I can't see the C's trading PP.  His contract is to valuable.  If he would have had the year he did and would be up for a contract this off season he'd make a lot more.  For an expensive team like the C's they need contracts like his.  If we are trading anyone IMO it would be Hauser if he turns down what the C's offer for an extension.  I could see him moved for a 2025 pick and the C's drafting a shooter to replace him at the wing or PF position this year at 30.  There are a few players that could develop into his role.  Then sign a vet minimum player to replace Hauser for this year. 

[Kuberski33]

Why would you trade a reliable rotation guy for an unknown? Take away PP you weaken the team for next season.

[libermaniac]

I also read an interesting trade proposal:

Pritchard and 30 to Orlando for the 18.

I really like Pritchard, but I might just do this one to get a shot at a big.

anybody think Edey will be available at 18? because that's tempting for me. even more important that a 3pt shooting big is a BIG big who dominates his area of the floor. i think this opens up the floor so much for the rest of the team. you see it with Porzingis, even though he goes to a high post often and it always bothers me that he doesn't get closer to the basket (even when he scores from there). similar benefit could come from someone like Edey in the lower post. plus, he shows some promise at developing a 3pt shot eventually (maybe).

Edey would be a huge defensive liability against a stretch 5. No thanks.

[johnnygreen]

I also read an interesting trade proposal:

Pritchard and 30 to Orlando for the 18.

I really like Pritchard, but I might just do this one to get a shot at a big.

anybody think Edey will be available at 18? because that's tempting for me. even more important that a 3pt shooting big is a BIG big who dominates his area of the floor. i think this opens up the floor so much for the rest of the team. you see it with Porzingis, even though he goes to a high post often and it always bothers me that he doesn't get closer to the basket (even when he scores from there). similar benefit could come from someone like Edey in the lower post. plus, he shows some promise at developing a 3pt shot eventually (maybe).

Unfortunately for Edey, he may be too slow for todays NBA. Just thonk of Porzingis in game 5 of the Finals, when he could barely close out on 3 point shooters. With Edey, it could be even worse.

[Kuberski33]

This is interesting, if accurate. Given the cost, I could see Brad trading out of the 1st round unless there's someone there who they really like.

https://x.com/John_Karalis/status/1805699083207684197

[Celtics2021]

This is interesting, if accurate. Given the cost, I could see Brad trading out of the 1st round unless there's someone there who they really like.

https://x.com/John_Karalis/status/1805699083207684197

He?s overstating the cost.  It?s expensive, but not that expansive, because the Celtics would otherwise fill that roster spot.  If you think the alternative is a second round pick at the rookie minimum, it?s $1.4 million extra in salary plus around $4.5 million in tax.  If you think the alternative is someone at the vet minimum it?s about $400k in extra salary plus about $1.3 million in tax.

(The above values are a) pending until the 2024-2025 cap figures are announced and b) relying on the accuracy of the websites I used for the current estimates, but they?re in the correct ballpark.

In other words, the Celtics are going to break camp with 14 players, as they did last year.  The question is will that 14th player be pick 30, pick 35-40, or someone signed to a veteran minimum, and so the cost of pick 30 is the marginal cost above those other options.

[gift]

Why would you trade a reliable rotation guy for an unknown? Take away PP you weaken the team for next season.

while i agree, we can't overlook the other weakness on this team. if kp is injured (he already is), we can't just assume horford will handle the load for yet another year. anything beyond them is really an unknown. so we have an unknown either way. the question is whether it is more difficult to replace pritchard or to replace the kp/horford minutes if one of them is down. i think the opportunity to find a big is more rare. i'm not sold that edey is more of a liability than other bigs like kornet/queta (celtics alternatives) or some other centers in the league that find meaningful minutes like brook lopez, valanciunas etc. even gobert has always struggled on the perimeter but has been a net positive as a defense-first guy. tillman is a better defensive option, but edey has more offensive upside. idk. i don't think it's clear that pritchard and #30 is better than edey as a backup when kp is down and as a third big when both kp and horford are healthy. especially when you consider the cost of whoever is at #30 vs the cost of a better producer at #18.

basically i'm searching for that third big and i don't see him. edey would at least be a chance at that.

[Birdman]

I say Celtics trade the first round pick to either move back or for a pick in the future..whoever they pick probably be a European guy that they can stash..rather find a cheap vet than an unproven rook

[Surferdad]

This entire discussion is predicated on the notion that Queta and/or Tillman will not take their next steps in development. It is certainly a risk to NOT happen, but it is also risk to draft a big who does not pan out and it is a financial risk to acquire a vet like Drummond (who actually does not fit into the C?s schemes).  I say roll with your own guys, both of whom are now NBA champs. Heck, Xavier has playoff experience not just with the C?s but Memphis as well.   

[tonydelk]

Why would you trade a reliable rotation guy for an unknown? Take away PP you weaken the team for next season.

while i agree, we can't overlook the other weakness on this team. if kp is injured (he already is), we can't just assume horford will handle the load for yet another year. anything beyond them is really an unknown. so we have an unknown either way. the question is whether it is more difficult to replace pritchard or to replace the kp/horford minutes if one of them is down. i think the opportunity to find a big is more rare. i'm not sold that edey is more of a liability than other bigs like kornet/queta (celtics alternatives) or some other centers in the league that find meaningful minutes like brook lopez, valanciunas etc. even gobert has always struggled on the perimeter but has been a net positive as a defense-first guy. tillman is a better defensive option, but edey has more offensive upside. idk. i don't think it's clear that pritchard and #30 is better than edey as a backup when kp is down and as a third big when both kp and horford are healthy. especially when you consider the cost of whoever is at #30 vs the cost of a better producer at #18.

basically i'm searching for that third big and i don't see him. edey would at least be a chance at that.

I think that big will be a ring chasing vet or a younger player like Bamba or Bitadze that teams have given up on.  With KP down for the first part of the season and getting limited minutes while he builds up his conditioning and the back to backs a big who signs with us will get some run until the all star break.  Theis, Muscala, Jalen Smith, Thomas Bryant, Biyombo, Bamba and Bitadze IMO the team could sign one from this group at the minimum. 

[gift]

This entire discussion is predicated on the notion that Queta and/or Tillman will not take their next steps in development. It is certainly a risk to NOT happen, but it is also risk to draft a big who does not pan out and it is a financial risk to acquire a vet like Drummond (who actually does not fit into the C?s schemes).  I say roll with your own guys, both of whom are now NBA champs. Heck, Xavier has playoff experience not just with the C?s but Memphis as well.   

Tillman would be fine. just not sure if he's coming back. Queta is what he is, i think. he's like Kornet as a guy who can be your third big if someone else goes down but otherwise should be your fourth big. i think both horford and kp need to be protected next year, which puts more pressure on that bench and makes that third big really important.

[perks-a-beast]

My dream scenario would be trading up using some of our future seconds to grab Yves Missi - he's probably going in the 17-22 range.

[tonydelk]

My dream scenario would be trading up using some of our future seconds to grab Yves Missi - he's probably going in the 17-22 range.

I was watching the mock draft on NBA TV.  They mentioned that the C's only have like 3 x 2nd round picks in the next 5 or 6 drafts because we traded 3 of them at the trade deadline for X and Springer.  One of the picks would have been the number 41 pick in this draft.  I think Brad does a similar thing like he did last year and recoup 2nd round picks.  I expect him to forgo picking in the 1st round yet again.

[hwangjini_1]

I would be very happy if the Celtics walk away from the draft with any two of the following (in my order of preference):

1) Ulrich Chomche
Classic "swing for the fences" big man, 6'11". The youngest player in the draft and has perhaps some chance (very low) of becoming a star. Good athlete. I hope the Celtics take a chance on him with a second rounder.
https://www.tankathon.com/players/ulrich-chomche

2) Kyle Filipowski
C out of Duke. Not a star but he's actually pretty good as a spacer/passer and would have a chance at eventually carving out a role on the team. At 30 perhaps all we can hope for.
https://www.tankathon.com/players/kyle-filipowski

3) Pacome Dadiet
Very young 6'9" SG. Can shoot from lots of places on the court. Decent passing and a willing defender who moves his feet and hands.
https://www.tankathon.com/players/pacome-dadiet

4) Bobi Klintman
6'10" PF, but really thin. Looks athletic and seems to play hard. He is quick, but whether he is strong enough to play PF in the NBA is a question.
https://www.tankathon.com/players/bobi-klintman

5) Jonathan Mogbo
6'7" PF. He looks like he can play very good defense at the NBA level but might have real problems scoring effectively. He was called a "late bloomer" and is 22 going on 23. In someone's dreams he might become Rodman II.
https://www.tankathon.com/players/jonathan-mogbo