Celtics (11-2) at Hornets (3-9) Game #14 11/20/23

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Just listen to Scal and Drew on the post game show, the Celtics had a nine point lead in two minutes to go, Hayward missed a layup,. Mark Williams got an offensive rebound, made a shot. Then JAylen misses a 10 footer, lamelo makes a 3, we lead by 4. Jaylen misses a 3, Jayson misses a layup, Williams goes for a dunk here blocked, gets the ball back, makes the shot, we lead by 2. Then Jrue had the chance to ice the game with 2 free throws, misses both, lamelo makes a layup to force the game to OT. Just hustle plays that the hornets won really.

So the loss was well deserved and should act as a wake up call to this team ahead of the matchup vs Milwaukee

offensive rebounds by the hornets gave them key 2nd chance opportunities.  gotta go get the ball in those situations.
the two blatant off fouls by ball when he did a two hand shove on JB and then another 1 arm push out against Jrue didn't help either.
It took a lot of things to come together to lose that game.  It should have been a win.

[tenn_smoothie]

I'm not gonna fault JT 100% for missing that third FT in OT. He looked tired. Was the hero we needed. Kept the C's in the game.

These guys weren't in the position to be in OT. They should've closed it out while they was up by 11 points late in regulation.

JB had no business leading with the ball or making dumb BBIQ shots. Jrue was gassed. KP was gassed. All of them were gassed. Joe doesn't know how to coach and has no business being on that sidelines since last year.

Agree. Tatum @ 44 minutes and 50 three-point attempts are just two examples of Joe's bad approach to the game.
Brown's chronic dumb basketball with no improvement in sight is an example of a lack of coaching.

[tazzmaniac]

I completely expect us to win on Wed vs the Bucks.   That is what this team is.

Big important game, usually get good effort, games against the worst teams in the NBA we just act like we can't be bothered and throw away wins.
All wins count the same no matter who you beat.  I think our team needs to be reminded of that.

The team has lost 3 times and all 3 were on the road.  The other two were against the Sixers and Timberwolves who are two of the best teams in the league.  So where are all these thrown away wins against the worst teams in the NBA? 

[kraidstar]

JB wasn't any bigger problem than the horrid 3 point shooting from KP, Sam, and Jrue.
All 4 of them were 3/25 from 3.

17 offensive rebounds by the Hornets didn't help either.

It's one thing missing a shot if you're playing the right way.

My beef with Jaylen is him forcing shots and not keeping the ball moving.

[hpantazo]

It's nowhere near a reason to worry , it's early in the season, these guys lead the NBA, and they were gassed tonight, BUT, we've all seen this complete loss of focus and effort from Tatum-Brown Celtics squads for years now. That's why we all get worried.

[RJ87]

Brown with a bad 3 pt miss trying to get a 2 for 1, then just watches Bridges shoot the go ahead 3 without putting a hand up or anything.

Holiday was actually defending Bridges on that switch.

Brown was the one closest to him, and neither of them put a hand up. Nevermind Tatum completely falling asleep and losing Hayward for a layup earlier.

Go back and watch the play. It starts out with Brown on Bridges and Jrue on Ball, but there's a screen and they switch. Brown stops Ball from going to his left and Ball bumps him a bit even. Jrue is clearly the main defender on Bridges at that point, and doesn't get a hand up once he catches and shoots it.

[scaryjerry]

Refs messed up the clock...

Who cares? The Celtics are in a slug fest with the charlotte hornets and deserve to lose, Tatum was gifted 3 free throws at the end of the game and I’ve never been more sure of something then him missing one of those. Not clutch and this team has already been overhyped and overrated

Your takes are so unserious lol What a ridiculous statement.

You're literally trying to blame someone who put up 45, 13, 6, and 2 on excellent efficiency and was 8-10 on free throws tonight when everyone else not named Pritchard p---ed the bed tonight?

And you do know that statistically Tatum is ABSOLUTELY clutch and as recent as last year was leading the league all time in clutch (or at least go ahead/game-tying shots in the clutch) shooting percentage, right?

I view Tatum as our only true superstar and my expectation would be he would make 3 free throws when the game is on the line. Call me crazy!
He’s had his moments of coming up big and clutch but he also far too often comes up small in the biggest moments, including the biggest of his career in the nba finals where he was reduced to a puddle

[jpotter33]

As i stated earlier. the celtics' have been messing around these past several games not respecting their competition. Can't get stops, offence looks disinterested. Joe just playing around with lineups. they need to stop messing around. This isn't a championship team right now, despite what the record says.

You realize they’re coming off a 6 game winning streak and still have the best record in the league?

The win against the 76ers is the only qualify win out of those 6. Their schedule has been incredibly easy and they’re barely beating these crap teams all while being praised as the best team in the league.
They’re not. They were literally playing better to start last season. Can we not anoint this team after they do anything decent

Yet again, wrong. Before tonight's game, they've been consistently ranked in the top 5 to top 10 in strength of schedule thus far.

Do you even check the actual facts before spewing non-sense, or are you just hoping that nobody checks the actual facts?

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JB wasn't any bigger problem than the horrid 3 point shooting from KP, Sam, and Jrue.
All 4 of them were 3/25 from 3.

I counted about three selfish and greedy shots he took in the last few minutes and OT

selfish / greedy?  man JT was gassed, no one else could hit the side of a barn.  JB had a good start to overtime with a score and then a 1/2 from the ft line and then a nice assist to JT for his 3.   I didn't see any of JB's shots in overtime as selfish /greedy, someone needs to show up, he was trying, just like JT.

[SparzWizard]

It's nowhere near a reason to worry , it's early in the season, these guys lead the NBA, and they were gassed tonight, BUT, we've all seen this complete loss of focus and effort from Tatum-Brown Celtics squads for years now. That's why we all get worried.

The problem is/has been Brown. Brad needs to remove him out the equation.

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I completely expect us to win on Wed vs the Bucks.   That is what this team is.

Big important game, usually get good effort, games against the worst teams in the NBA we just act like we can't be bothered and throw away wins.
All wins count the same no matter who you beat.  I think our team needs to be reminded of that.

The team has lost 3 times and all 3 were on the road.  The other two were against the Sixers and Timberwolves who are two of the best teams in the league.  So where are all these thrown away wins against the worst teams in the NBA?

Sorry I wasn't complete in what I wrote, I am tagging onto last year.  Not just this year. 

[scaryjerry]

As i stated earlier. the celtics' have been messing around these past several games not respecting their competition. Can't get stops, offence looks disinterested. Joe just playing around with lineups. they need to stop messing around. This isn't a championship team right now, despite what the record says.

You realize they’re coming off a 6 game winning streak and still have the best record in the league?

The win against the 76ers is the only qualify win out of those 6. Their schedule has been incredibly easy and they’re barely beating these crap teams all while being praised as the best team in the league.
They’re not. They were literally playing better to start last season. Can we not anoint this team after they do anything decent

Yet again, wrong. Before tonight's game, they've been consistently ranked in the top 5 to top 10 in strength of schedule thus far.

Do you even check the actual facts before spewing non-sense, or are you just hoping that nobody checks the actual facts?

The 76ers were the only quality win of the 6 and the only 2 quality wins of the season are against the heat and that 6ers win

Can’t convince me otherwise. What the blowout against the pacers without haliburton? Knicks? Wizards? Nets? Raptors? Grizz? Where are there other quality wins?

[jpotter33]

It's nowhere near a reason to worry , it's early in the season, these guys lead the NBA, and they were gassed tonight, BUT, we've all seen this complete loss of focus and effort from Tatum-Brown Celtics squads for years now. That's why we all get worried.

I don't know if it's effort, per se, but more so just poor decision-making. And this goes doubly for Joe who essentially reverted back to last year with just atrocious end-game decision-making yet again.

And unfortunately, I'm starting to think Jrue has some of that in him, too. He just seems to make really dumb or at least riksy passes a lot that tend to lead to turnovers.

That is why these losses are so frustrating and concerning; it's the same thing over and over again. Yes, the schedule definitely played a part, but you're not always going to have things perfectly set up for you to win.

[kraidstar]

JB wasn't any bigger problem than the horrid 3 point shooting from KP, Sam, and Jrue.
All 4 of them were 3/25 from 3.

I counted about three selfish and greedy shots he took in the last few minutes and OT

selfish / greedy?  man JT was gassed, no one else could hit the side of a barn.  JB had a good start to overtime with a score and then a 1/2 from the ft line and then a nice assist to JT for his 3.   I didn't see any of JB's shots in overtime as selfish /greedy, someone needs to show up, he was trying, just like JT.

I thought most of Brown's bad plays came earlier in the game actually. The C's were playing well and had a chance to make it a blowout. IMO Brown started messing around and helped them back into the game.

We can't gave these lapses if the Celtics want to win a title. But bad habits are hard to break.

[scaryjerry]

It's nowhere near a reason to worry , it's early in the season, these guys lead the NBA, and they were gassed tonight, BUT, we've all seen this complete loss of focus and effort from Tatum-Brown Celtics squads for years now. That's why we all get worried.

The problem is/has been Brown. Brad needs to remove him out the equation.

Pretty sure they made the nba finals and Tatum puked on his shoes. It’s been both of them although definitely more brown nowadays