2024 NBA Season and Playoffs

[celticsclay]

Tired of these experts saying Lakers are title contenders & will Chicago ax Billy Donovan during or after season?

media is obsessed with the lakers. they don't look any better than last year...

I think biggest surprise for me is the sixers. 4-1 with maxey/harris/oubre all scoring over 15ppg. hopefully nurse hasn't fixed them.

kinda wish we signed oubre for our bench. but maybe he would rather be with the sixers since he will get more minutes.

the Lakers were in the WCF last year though with roughly the same team and pretty inconsistent play throughout the regular season.  I think the belief is that Lebron can still carry a team during a playoff run.  I'm not sure that is true, but they've been way better with Lebron on the floor than when he sits.  His on/off differential per 100 possessions is an ASTRONOMICAL +46.5.  Overall Lebron is +47 in the 6 games.  The Lakers as a team are -23. So in Lebron's 214 minutes +47, in the 84 minutes he has been in the bench they are -70.  That isn't sustainable, but it also doesn't seem realistic either.  Those numbers should balance out more as the season goes one, which should make the Lakers better overall.

The top half of the WC teams got a lot better this summer though, and the Lakers did not.

Did they? I'm not so sure they did

Who knows how it will work out but yea some teams in the west clearly made better additions on paper. The suns added an all star caliber player in Beal. The clippers added a guy you said was an all star level player in harden for scraps. Meanwhile early returns on the lakers adding Vincent, Hayes and reddish are not very good and certainly not in the realm of Beal or harden. Prince looks like a nice get but not really a true needle mover. And for now it appears a team like the pelicans has basically added Zion

Would you want Beal or Harden on the Celts?  I certainly wouldn't.  Both are desperation moves that likely won't work out.  Not that I thought that highly of him but they didn't get much for Ayton.  As for the Lakers, they'll probably finish in the 6th through 8th spot.

This is kind of a silly question cause they don’t fit on our team from either a roster perspective or salary cap perspectives. But before we got porzginas or holiday? Absolutely and so did every one else on this forum. They are talented players. Why the heck wouldn’t we? lol

[Goldstar88]

Will the Grizzlies get their first win tonight or will they fall to 0-7? Stay tuned… 

[tazzmaniac]

Tired of these experts saying Lakers are title contenders & will Chicago ax Billy Donovan during or after season?

media is obsessed with the lakers. they don't look any better than last year...

I think biggest surprise for me is the sixers. 4-1 with maxey/harris/oubre all scoring over 15ppg. hopefully nurse hasn't fixed them.

kinda wish we signed oubre for our bench. but maybe he would rather be with the sixers since he will get more minutes.

the Lakers were in the WCF last year though with roughly the same team and pretty inconsistent play throughout the regular season.  I think the belief is that Lebron can still carry a team during a playoff run.  I'm not sure that is true, but they've been way better with Lebron on the floor than when he sits.  His on/off differential per 100 possessions is an ASTRONOMICAL +46.5.  Overall Lebron is +47 in the 6 games.  The Lakers as a team are -23. So in Lebron's 214 minutes +47, in the 84 minutes he has been in the bench they are -70.  That isn't sustainable, but it also doesn't seem realistic either.  Those numbers should balance out more as the season goes one, which should make the Lakers better overall.

The top half of the WC teams got a lot better this summer though, and the Lakers did not.

Did they? I'm not so sure they did

Who knows how it will work out but yea some teams in the west clearly made better additions on paper. The suns added an all star caliber player in Beal. The clippers added a guy you said was an all star level player in harden for scraps. Meanwhile early returns on the lakers adding Vincent, Hayes and reddish are not very good and certainly not in the realm of Beal or harden. Prince looks like a nice get but not really a true needle mover. And for now it appears a team like the pelicans has basically added Zion

Would you want Beal or Harden on the Celts?  I certainly wouldn't.  Both are desperation moves that likely won't work out.  Not that I thought that highly of him but they didn't get much for Ayton.  As for the Lakers, they'll probably finish in the 6th through 8th spot.

This is kind of a silly question cause they don’t fit on our team from either a roster perspective or salary cap perspectives. But before we got porzginas or holiday? Absolutely and so did every one else on this forum. They are talented players. Why the heck wouldn’t we? lol

There have been discussions in the past about trading for Beal and plenty of folks had no interest.  The dislike for Harden is self-evident and keeps growing.  Heck some folks were even sympathetic to the Sixers in regard to Harden.  I said Harden, Kyrie and KD wouldn't work out.  I don't see why Harden, Westbrook, Leonard and George would work out better.  Harden doesn't even have good trade value.   

[BitterJim]

Tired of these experts saying Lakers are title contenders & will Chicago ax Billy Donovan during or after season?

media is obsessed with the lakers. they don't look any better than last year...

I think biggest surprise for me is the sixers. 4-1 with maxey/harris/oubre all scoring over 15ppg. hopefully nurse hasn't fixed them.

kinda wish we signed oubre for our bench. but maybe he would rather be with the sixers since he will get more minutes.

the Lakers were in the WCF last year though with roughly the same team and pretty inconsistent play throughout the regular season.  I think the belief is that Lebron can still carry a team during a playoff run.  I'm not sure that is true, but they've been way better with Lebron on the floor than when he sits.  His on/off differential per 100 possessions is an ASTRONOMICAL +46.5.  Overall Lebron is +47 in the 6 games.  The Lakers as a team are -23. So in Lebron's 214 minutes +47, in the 84 minutes he has been in the bench they are -70.  That isn't sustainable, but it also doesn't seem realistic either.  Those numbers should balance out more as the season goes one, which should make the Lakers better overall.

The top half of the WC teams got a lot better this summer though, and the Lakers did not.

Did they? I'm not so sure they did

Who knows how it will work out but yea some teams in the west clearly made better additions on paper. The suns added an all star caliber player in Beal. The clippers added a guy you said was an all star level player in harden for scraps. Meanwhile early returns on the lakers adding Vincent, Hayes and reddish are not very good and certainly not in the realm of Beal or harden. Prince looks like a nice get but not really a true needle mover. And for now it appears a team like the pelicans has basically added Zion

Would you want Beal or Harden on the Celts?  I certainly wouldn't.  Both are desperation moves that likely won't work out.  Not that I thought that highly of him but they didn't get much for Ayton.  As for the Lakers, they'll probably finish in the 6th through 8th spot.

This is kind of a silly question cause they don’t fit on our team from either a roster perspective or salary cap perspectives. But before we got porzginas or holiday? Absolutely and so did every one else on this forum. They are talented players. Why the heck wouldn’t we? lol

There have been discussions in the past about trading for Beal and plenty of folks had no interest.  The dislike for Harden is self-evident and keeps growing.  Heck some folks were even sympathetic to the Sixers in regard to Harden.  I said Harden, Kyrie and KD wouldn't work out.  I don't see why Harden, Westbrook, Leonard and George would work out better.  Harden doesn't even have good trade value.   

I wouldn't want to trade for LeBron because of what we'd have to give up, but I would absolutely want him on the team. The same is true for a guy like Beal.

[MattyIce]

Tired of these experts saying Lakers are title contenders & will Chicago ax Billy Donovan during or after season?

media is obsessed with the lakers. they don't look any better than last year...

I think biggest surprise for me is the sixers. 4-1 with maxey/harris/oubre all scoring over 15ppg. hopefully nurse hasn't fixed them.

kinda wish we signed oubre for our bench. but maybe he would rather be with the sixers since he will get more minutes.

the Lakers were in the WCF last year though with roughly the same team and pretty inconsistent play throughout the regular season.  I think the belief is that Lebron can still carry a team during a playoff run.  I'm not sure that is true, but they've been way better with Lebron on the floor than when he sits.  His on/off differential per 100 possessions is an ASTRONOMICAL +46.5.  Overall Lebron is +47 in the 6 games.  The Lakers as a team are -23. So in Lebron's 214 minutes +47, in the 84 minutes he has been in the bench they are -70.  That isn't sustainable, but it also doesn't seem realistic either.  Those numbers should balance out more as the season goes one, which should make the Lakers better overall.

The top half of the WC teams got a lot better this summer though, and the Lakers did not.

Did they? I'm not so sure they did

Who knows how it will work out but yea some teams in the west clearly made better additions on paper. The suns added an all star caliber player in Beal. The clippers added a guy you said was an all star level player in harden for scraps. Meanwhile early returns on the lakers adding Vincent, Hayes and reddish are not very good and certainly not in the realm of Beal or harden. Prince looks like a nice get but not really a true needle mover. And for now it appears a team like the pelicans has basically added Zion

Would you want Beal or Harden on the Celts?  I certainly wouldn't.  Both are desperation moves that likely won't work out.  Not that I thought that highly of him but they didn't get much for Ayton.  As for the Lakers, they'll probably finish in the 6th through 8th spot.

This is kind of a silly question cause they don’t fit on our team from either a roster perspective or salary cap perspectives. But before we got porzginas or holiday? Absolutely and so did every one else on this forum. They are talented players. Why the heck wouldn’t we? lol

There have been discussions in the past about trading for Beal and plenty of folks had no interest.  The dislike for Harden is self-evident and keeps growing.  Heck some folks were even sympathetic to the Sixers in regard to Harden.  I said Harden, Kyrie and KD wouldn't work out.  I don't see why Harden, Westbrook, Leonard and George would work out better.  Harden doesn't even have good trade value.   

I wouldn't want to trade for LeBron because of what we'd have to give up, but I would absolutely want him on the team. The same is true for a guy like Beal.

   where is the throwing up emoji?

I wouldn't go to another game til he was gone, and that's coming from someone who goes to every home game and 1/4 of the away games...YUCK

[BitterJim]

Tired of these experts saying Lakers are title contenders & will Chicago ax Billy Donovan during or after season?

media is obsessed with the lakers. they don't look any better than last year...

I think biggest surprise for me is the sixers. 4-1 with maxey/harris/oubre all scoring over 15ppg. hopefully nurse hasn't fixed them.

kinda wish we signed oubre for our bench. but maybe he would rather be with the sixers since he will get more minutes.

the Lakers were in the WCF last year though with roughly the same team and pretty inconsistent play throughout the regular season.  I think the belief is that Lebron can still carry a team during a playoff run.  I'm not sure that is true, but they've been way better with Lebron on the floor than when he sits.  His on/off differential per 100 possessions is an ASTRONOMICAL +46.5.  Overall Lebron is +47 in the 6 games.  The Lakers as a team are -23. So in Lebron's 214 minutes +47, in the 84 minutes he has been in the bench they are -70.  That isn't sustainable, but it also doesn't seem realistic either.  Those numbers should balance out more as the season goes one, which should make the Lakers better overall.

The top half of the WC teams got a lot better this summer though, and the Lakers did not.

Did they? I'm not so sure they did

Who knows how it will work out but yea some teams in the west clearly made better additions on paper. The suns added an all star caliber player in Beal. The clippers added a guy you said was an all star level player in harden for scraps. Meanwhile early returns on the lakers adding Vincent, Hayes and reddish are not very good and certainly not in the realm of Beal or harden. Prince looks like a nice get but not really a true needle mover. And for now it appears a team like the pelicans has basically added Zion

Would you want Beal or Harden on the Celts?  I certainly wouldn't.  Both are desperation moves that likely won't work out.  Not that I thought that highly of him but they didn't get much for Ayton.  As for the Lakers, they'll probably finish in the 6th through 8th spot.

This is kind of a silly question cause they don’t fit on our team from either a roster perspective or salary cap perspectives. But before we got porzginas or holiday? Absolutely and so did every one else on this forum. They are talented players. Why the heck wouldn’t we? lol

There have been discussions in the past about trading for Beal and plenty of folks had no interest.  The dislike for Harden is self-evident and keeps growing.  Heck some folks were even sympathetic to the Sixers in regard to Harden.  I said Harden, Kyrie and KD wouldn't work out.  I don't see why Harden, Westbrook, Leonard and George would work out better.  Harden doesn't even have good trade value.   

I wouldn't want to trade for LeBron because of what we'd have to give up, but I would absolutely want him on the team. The same is true for a guy like Beal.

   where is the throwing up emoji?

I wouldn't go to another game til he was gone, and that's coming from someone who goes to every home game and 1/4 of the away games...YUCK

After the first or second ring we would get over it

[MattyIce]

Tired of these experts saying Lakers are title contenders & will Chicago ax Billy Donovan during or after season?

media is obsessed with the lakers. they don't look any better than last year...

I think biggest surprise for me is the sixers. 4-1 with maxey/harris/oubre all scoring over 15ppg. hopefully nurse hasn't fixed them.

kinda wish we signed oubre for our bench. but maybe he would rather be with the sixers since he will get more minutes.

the Lakers were in the WCF last year though with roughly the same team and pretty inconsistent play throughout the regular season.  I think the belief is that Lebron can still carry a team during a playoff run.  I'm not sure that is true, but they've been way better with Lebron on the floor than when he sits.  His on/off differential per 100 possessions is an ASTRONOMICAL +46.5.  Overall Lebron is +47 in the 6 games.  The Lakers as a team are -23. So in Lebron's 214 minutes +47, in the 84 minutes he has been in the bench they are -70.  That isn't sustainable, but it also doesn't seem realistic either.  Those numbers should balance out more as the season goes one, which should make the Lakers better overall.

The top half of the WC teams got a lot better this summer though, and the Lakers did not.

Did they? I'm not so sure they did

Who knows how it will work out but yea some teams in the west clearly made better additions on paper. The suns added an all star caliber player in Beal. The clippers added a guy you said was an all star level player in harden for scraps. Meanwhile early returns on the lakers adding Vincent, Hayes and reddish are not very good and certainly not in the realm of Beal or harden. Prince looks like a nice get but not really a true needle mover. And for now it appears a team like the pelicans has basically added Zion

Would you want Beal or Harden on the Celts?  I certainly wouldn't.  Both are desperation moves that likely won't work out.  Not that I thought that highly of him but they didn't get much for Ayton.  As for the Lakers, they'll probably finish in the 6th through 8th spot.

This is kind of a silly question cause they don’t fit on our team from either a roster perspective or salary cap perspectives. But before we got porzginas or holiday? Absolutely and so did every one else on this forum. They are talented players. Why the heck wouldn’t we? lol

There have been discussions in the past about trading for Beal and plenty of folks had no interest.  The dislike for Harden is self-evident and keeps growing.  Heck some folks were even sympathetic to the Sixers in regard to Harden.  I said Harden, Kyrie and KD wouldn't work out.  I don't see why Harden, Westbrook, Leonard and George would work out better.  Harden doesn't even have good trade value.   

I wouldn't want to trade for LeBron because of what we'd have to give up, but I would absolutely want him on the team. The same is true for a guy like Beal.

   where is the throwing up emoji?

I wouldn't go to another game til he was gone, and that's coming from someone who goes to every home game and 1/4 of the away games...YUCK

After the first or second ring we would get over it

not me, but i'm only 1

[Moranis]

Tired of these experts saying Lakers are title contenders & will Chicago ax Billy Donovan during or after season?

media is obsessed with the lakers. they don't look any better than last year...

I think biggest surprise for me is the sixers. 4-1 with maxey/harris/oubre all scoring over 15ppg. hopefully nurse hasn't fixed them.

kinda wish we signed oubre for our bench. but maybe he would rather be with the sixers since he will get more minutes.

the Lakers were in the WCF last year though with roughly the same team and pretty inconsistent play throughout the regular season.  I think the belief is that Lebron can still carry a team during a playoff run.  I'm not sure that is true, but they've been way better with Lebron on the floor than when he sits.  His on/off differential per 100 possessions is an ASTRONOMICAL +46.5.  Overall Lebron is +47 in the 6 games.  The Lakers as a team are -23. So in Lebron's 214 minutes +47, in the 84 minutes he has been in the bench they are -70.  That isn't sustainable, but it also doesn't seem realistic either.  Those numbers should balance out more as the season goes one, which should make the Lakers better overall.

The top half of the WC teams got a lot better this summer though, and the Lakers did not.

Did they? I'm not so sure they did

Who knows how it will work out but yea some teams in the west clearly made better additions on paper. The suns added an all star caliber player in Beal. The clippers added a guy you said was an all star level player in harden for scraps. Meanwhile early returns on the lakers adding Vincent, Hayes and reddish are not very good and certainly not in the realm of Beal or harden. Prince looks like a nice get but not really a true needle mover. And for now it appears a team like the pelicans has basically added Zion

I don't like the fit on the Clippers with Harden.  It is just a weird team with Westbrook, Harden, George, Leonard, and Zubac.  Very strange lineup.  It might work out for them, but I could certainly see it not.  I'd have liked that move a lot better if they didn't have Westbrook.  The fit there is just strange.  But that is why I'm not sure the Clippers are better even though they added the best player in the trade.

Beal has yet to play, and while Paul was old and also injury prone, he has been healthier than Beal and is a better fit.  But more importantly, the downgrade from Ayton to Nurkic is massive and Allen and Little don't make up for it (especially when Beal comes back and Allen plays less).  I don't think the Suns got better with their moves.  Now Durant playing more should make them better, but their team isn't well constructed either. 

So far I do like Paul in GS, but he will get hurt and I don't think they have enough size, which is why the Lakers beat them in the playoffs last year.  I'd expect that same thing to happen again this year.  Paul won't help with that.

The West is Denver and then about 7 or 8 teams all in the same general range.  In the playoffs, I'd take the team with Lebron, even at this advanced age over everyone but the Nuggets.  The team I think that has a real chance to compete with Denver is the Pelicans.  I like them a lot if this is the Zion we are going to see.  If the Pelicans stay healthy, I think they have a real chance to come out of the west this year.  That is the team to watch.

[celticsclay]

Tired of these experts saying Lakers are title contenders & will Chicago ax Billy Donovan during or after season?

media is obsessed with the lakers. they don't look any better than last year...

I think biggest surprise for me is the sixers. 4-1 with maxey/harris/oubre all scoring over 15ppg. hopefully nurse hasn't fixed them.

kinda wish we signed oubre for our bench. but maybe he would rather be with the sixers since he will get more minutes.

the Lakers were in the WCF last year though with roughly the same team and pretty inconsistent play throughout the regular season.  I think the belief is that Lebron can still carry a team during a playoff run.  I'm not sure that is true, but they've been way better with Lebron on the floor than when he sits.  His on/off differential per 100 possessions is an ASTRONOMICAL +46.5.  Overall Lebron is +47 in the 6 games.  The Lakers as a team are -23. So in Lebron's 214 minutes +47, in the 84 minutes he has been in the bench they are -70.  That isn't sustainable, but it also doesn't seem realistic either.  Those numbers should balance out more as the season goes one, which should make the Lakers better overall.

The top half of the WC teams got a lot better this summer though, and the Lakers did not.

Did they? I'm not so sure they did

Who knows how it will work out but yea some teams in the west clearly made better additions on paper. The suns added an all star caliber player in Beal. The clippers added a guy you said was an all star level player in harden for scraps. Meanwhile early returns on the lakers adding Vincent, Hayes and reddish are not very good and certainly not in the realm of Beal or harden. Prince looks like a nice get but not really a true needle mover. And for now it appears a team like the pelicans has basically added Zion

Would you want Beal or Harden on the Celts?  I certainly wouldn't.  Both are desperation moves that likely won't work out.  Not that I thought that highly of him but they didn't get much for Ayton.  As for the Lakers, they'll probably finish in the 6th through 8th spot.

This is kind of a silly question cause they don’t fit on our team from either a roster perspective or salary cap perspectives. But before we got porzginas or holiday? Absolutely and so did every one else on this forum. They are talented players. Why the heck wouldn’t we? lol

There have been discussions in the past about trading for Beal and plenty of folks had no interest.  The dislike for Harden is self-evident and keeps growing.  Heck some folks were even sympathetic to the Sixers in regard to Harden.  I said Harden, Kyrie and KD wouldn't work out.  I don't see why Harden, Westbrook, Leonard and George would work out better.  Harden doesn't even have good trade value.   

Are you trying to say with a straight face that before we had porzingas or holiday we wouldn’t have taken Beal for free, just wycs money (suns basically got him for free). Cause that’s an absolutely hilarious position to take. 

[tazzmaniac]

Tired of these experts saying Lakers are title contenders & will Chicago ax Billy Donovan during or after season?

media is obsessed with the lakers. they don't look any better than last year...

I think biggest surprise for me is the sixers. 4-1 with maxey/harris/oubre all scoring over 15ppg. hopefully nurse hasn't fixed them.

kinda wish we signed oubre for our bench. but maybe he would rather be with the sixers since he will get more minutes.

the Lakers were in the WCF last year though with roughly the same team and pretty inconsistent play throughout the regular season.  I think the belief is that Lebron can still carry a team during a playoff run.  I'm not sure that is true, but they've been way better with Lebron on the floor than when he sits.  His on/off differential per 100 possessions is an ASTRONOMICAL +46.5.  Overall Lebron is +47 in the 6 games.  The Lakers as a team are -23. So in Lebron's 214 minutes +47, in the 84 minutes he has been in the bench they are -70.  That isn't sustainable, but it also doesn't seem realistic either.  Those numbers should balance out more as the season goes one, which should make the Lakers better overall.

The top half of the WC teams got a lot better this summer though, and the Lakers did not.

Did they? I'm not so sure they did

Who knows how it will work out but yea some teams in the west clearly made better additions on paper. The suns added an all star caliber player in Beal. The clippers added a guy you said was an all star level player in harden for scraps. Meanwhile early returns on the lakers adding Vincent, Hayes and reddish are not very good and certainly not in the realm of Beal or harden. Prince looks like a nice get but not really a true needle mover. And for now it appears a team like the pelicans has basically added Zion

Would you want Beal or Harden on the Celts?  I certainly wouldn't.  Both are desperation moves that likely won't work out.  Not that I thought that highly of him but they didn't get much for Ayton.  As for the Lakers, they'll probably finish in the 6th through 8th spot.

This is kind of a silly question cause they don’t fit on our team from either a roster perspective or salary cap perspectives. But before we got porzginas or holiday? Absolutely and so did every one else on this forum. They are talented players. Why the heck wouldn’t we? lol

There have been discussions in the past about trading for Beal and plenty of folks had no interest.  The dislike for Harden is self-evident and keeps growing.  Heck some folks were even sympathetic to the Sixers in regard to Harden.  I said Harden, Kyrie and KD wouldn't work out.  I don't see why Harden, Westbrook, Leonard and George would work out better.  Harden doesn't even have good trade value.   

Are you trying to say with a straight face that before we had porzingas or holiday we wouldn’t have taken Beal for free, just wycs money (suns basically got him for free). Cause that’s an absolutely hilarious position to take.

I'd take him for free to trade him not to keep him on the team. 

[obnoxiousmime]

Man, I understand why we let him go but still.... somebody like Grant that is a role player but confident enough to let it fly from 3 and isn't a bad defender is just so rare. Maybe he was immature, maybe he wanted to do more, maybe he talked too much, or wasn't professional enough in practice. I don't care, maybe it's Mazzulla's job to, I don't know, make sure a useful player stays invested? Is that so hard? Did Grant just openly dis Mazzulla in the locker room or something?

When he made all those 3s in the Bucks playoffs, I thought that this is a guy who isn't afraid of the moment. Look at all these so-called "sharpshooters" around the league that aren't consistent both in makes but also in their willingness to shoot. It's all mental, and that's what Grant has and they don't. Like, how many teams has Luke Kennard been on?

I just don't think there's any way the TPE will result in a player as good as Grant, which sucks. We could have 7 two-way guys we trust right now in the rotation instead of 6. Oh well, that's my lament for the day.

[celticsclay]

Man, I understand why we let him go but still.... somebody like Grant that is a role player but confident enough to let it fly from 3 and isn't a bad defender is just so rare. Maybe he was immature, maybe he wanted to do more, maybe he talked too much, or wasn't professional enough in practice. I don't care, maybe it's Mazzulla's job to, I don't know, make sure a useful player stays invested? Is that so hard? Did Grant just openly dis Mazzulla in the locker room or something?

When he made all those 3s in the Bucks playoffs, I thought that this is a guy who isn't afraid of the moment. Look at all these so-called "sharpshooters" around the league that aren't consistent both in makes but also in their willingness to shoot. It's all mental, and that's what Grant has and they don't. Like, how many teams has Luke Kennard been on?

I just don't think there's any way the TPE will result in a player as good as Grant, which sucks. We could have 7 two-way guys we trust right now in the rotation instead of 6. Oh well, that's my lament for the day.

Grant is young and at his peak earning capability right now. He is the third or fourth option on Dallas. He was going to be the 6th or 7th option here. It makes sense he didn’t want to be here over that. Just bad timing

[celticsclay]

Tired of these experts saying Lakers are title contenders & will Chicago ax Billy Donovan during or after season?

media is obsessed with the lakers. they don't look any better than last year...

I think biggest surprise for me is the sixers. 4-1 with maxey/harris/oubre all scoring over 15ppg. hopefully nurse hasn't fixed them.

kinda wish we signed oubre for our bench. but maybe he would rather be with the sixers since he will get more minutes.

the Lakers were in the WCF last year though with roughly the same team and pretty inconsistent play throughout the regular season.  I think the belief is that Lebron can still carry a team during a playoff run.  I'm not sure that is true, but they've been way better with Lebron on the floor than when he sits.  His on/off differential per 100 possessions is an ASTRONOMICAL +46.5.  Overall Lebron is +47 in the 6 games.  The Lakers as a team are -23. So in Lebron's 214 minutes +47, in the 84 minutes he has been in the bench they are -70.  That isn't sustainable, but it also doesn't seem realistic either.  Those numbers should balance out more as the season goes one, which should make the Lakers better overall.

The top half of the WC teams got a lot better this summer though, and the Lakers did not.

Did they? I'm not so sure they did

Who knows how it will work out but yea some teams in the west clearly made better additions on paper. The suns added an all star caliber player in Beal. The clippers added a guy you said was an all star level player in harden for scraps. Meanwhile early returns on the lakers adding Vincent, Hayes and reddish are not very good and certainly not in the realm of Beal or harden. Prince looks like a nice get but not really a true needle mover. And for now it appears a team like the pelicans has basically added Zion

Would you want Beal or Harden on the Celts?  I certainly wouldn't.  Both are desperation moves that likely won't work out.  Not that I thought that highly of him but they didn't get much for Ayton.  As for the Lakers, they'll probably finish in the 6th through 8th spot.

This is kind of a silly question cause they don’t fit on our team from either a roster perspective or salary cap perspectives. But before we got porzginas or holiday? Absolutely and so did every one else on this forum. They are talented players. Why the heck wouldn’t we? lol

There have been discussions in the past about trading for Beal and plenty of folks had no interest.  The dislike for Harden is self-evident and keeps growing.  Heck some folks were even sympathetic to the Sixers in regard to Harden.  I said Harden, Kyrie and KD wouldn't work out.  I don't see why Harden, Westbrook, Leonard and George would work out better.  Harden doesn't even have good trade value.   

Are you trying to say with a straight face that before we had porzingas or holiday we wouldn’t have taken Beal for free, just wycs money (suns basically got him for free). Cause that’s an absolutely hilarious position to take.

I'd take him for free to trade him not to keep him on the team.

This is ridiculous but ok.

[tazzmaniac]

Man, I understand why we let him go but still.... somebody like Grant that is a role player but confident enough to let it fly from 3 and isn't a bad defender is just so rare. Maybe he was immature, maybe he wanted to do more, maybe he talked too much, or wasn't professional enough in practice. I don't care, maybe it's Mazzulla's job to, I don't know, make sure a useful player stays invested? Is that so hard? Did Grant just openly dis Mazzulla in the locker room or something?

When he made all those 3s in the Bucks playoffs, I thought that this is a guy who isn't afraid of the moment. Look at all these so-called "sharpshooters" around the league that aren't consistent both in makes but also in their willingness to shoot. It's all mental, and that's what Grant has and they don't. Like, how many teams has Luke Kennard been on?

I just don't think there's any way the TPE will result in a player as good as Grant, which sucks. We could have 7 two-way guys we trust right now in the rotation instead of 6. Oh well, that's my lament for the day.

Kennard has been on 3 teams and this is his 8th season.  His playoff shooting numbers are quite good.  We've got plenty of firepower on offense.  We just need a 7th guy who can play reasonable defense. 

[jpotter33]

Timelord just got hit in the knee in the Blazers game and immediately asked out and limped to the locker room. Hope he's alright. But that's the worry with him, unfortunately.