Patriots 2023 Season

[johnnygreen]

Best practice is to hire a GM and let him decide who the coach is and the direction this is going. Excited for this change.

As for Bill, he'll want to chase Don's record so he should def wait to see the NFC playoffs play out...if Cowboys, Eagles, or another repeat playoff team get bounced early, expect some coaches to get fired and BB swoops in. They'd have the roster ready for him.

As for power and coaching, Chargers have vacancies for both roles so I can see why they're favored to land BB. They have the QB.

At this point in his career, Bill may not want the additional responsibility of also having the GM duties. Bill had both in NE, but you simply can't take away the GM duty once Bill already had that power in NE. I think Kraft mentioned this today too.

[byennie]

Give me Mayo with a defensive mindset (you can't go hire Vrabel over him at this point, unless you think he's that superior). He'll get C. Gonzalez back at corner next year, and guys who want to play for an up and coming defensive minded coach. Hire an OC who brings his own staff, including McDaniels.

Go draft Marvin Harrison + Penix/Nix, dump Jones, and fix the offensive line.

Do all that and we'll at least be fun to watch again.

[Goldstar88]

Best practice is to hire a GM and let him decide who the coach is and the direction this is going. Excited for this change.

As for Bill, he'll want to chase Don's record so he should def wait to see the NFC playoffs play out...if Cowboys,  Eagles, or another repeat playoff team get bounced early, expect some coaches to get fired and BB swoops in. They'd have the roster ready for him.

As for power and coaching, Chargers have vacancies for both roles so I can see why they're favored to land BB. They have the QB.

At this point in his career, Bill may not want the additional responsibility of also having the GM duties. Bill had both in NE, but you simply can't take away the GM duty once Bill already had that power in NE. I think Kraft mentioned this today too.

Correct, he mentioned that during his solo press conference at 2pm. He also mentioned that it wasn’t until Bill won 3 Super Bowls that he was given the GM role. I didn’t realize that. Apparently Grier was still the GM when Bill came to New England.

What we don’t know is how it happened. How did the Patriots, who had no quarterback needs, decide on Brady after passing him six times? That’s a question we asked Scott Pioli on a recent “Eye Test for Two” podcast on fullpressradio.com, and he should know. He was the team’s assistant director of player personnel at the time and was in the draft room when New England chose Brady.

“I had actually, oddly enough, seen him the year before in a very unremarkable, unspectacular game against Syracuse up in the Carrier Dome,” he said. “So I had seen him play. That was back in the ’99 season. But we had a list of quarterbacks that we wanted to start looking at, a certain type of quarterback.

“We weren’t going to draft a quarterback at the top. We knew that. But Dick Rehbein (then the Patriots’ quarterbacks coach), who unfortunately passed away, had gone out to work him out. Dick liked him. (Offensive coordinator) Charlie (Weis) liked him. Bill (Belichick) liked him. And Bobby Grier liked him.

“Bobby Grier was the general manager at the time. People forget that when Bill and I got there I was the assistant director of player personnel, but Bobby was the general manager. There was this dynamic we were all trying to deal with and work through, working as a collective to make sure we were working on the greater good. And (the team's football research director) Ernie Adams liked him. So there was a group of us that liked him.”

[Phantom255x]

Wow, this is very interesting. Looks like Mayo is the guy then. This would speed up the process if RKK really had this "succession plan" in mind and communicated it with the league last year:

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1745588132043542889?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Sources: Jerod Mayo is a strong candidate to replace Bill Belichick & if he is the choice, the #Patriots could simply hire him. No need to go through the lengthy hiring process -- they established a firm, contractual succession plan in a prior contract & communicated it to the NFL.

[johnnygreen]

Wow, this is very interesting. Looks like Mayo is the guy then. This would speed up the process if RKK really had this "succession plan" in mind and communicated it with the league last year:

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1745588132043542889?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Sources: Jerod Mayo is a strong candidate to replace Bill Belichick & if he is the choice, the #Patriots could simply hire him. No need to go through the lengthy hiring process -- they established a firm, contractual succession plan in a prior contract & communicated it to the NFL.

I don't think the team can simply hire Mayo without interviewing other candidates. The Rooney rule requires teams to interview two minority candidates for an open head coaching position.

As I previously questioned, shouldn't the team hire a GM first inorder to make one of the biggest football decisions the team has faced in years? From hiring a new head coach, free agency, and the draft. Picking the correct head coach is a big football decision that should be influenced by football minds, and not solely the owner.

[Goldstar88]

Wow, this is very interesting. Looks like Mayo is the guy then. This would speed up the process if RKK really had this "succession plan" in mind and communicated it with the league last year:

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1745588132043542889?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Sources: Jerod Mayo is a strong candidate to replace Bill Belichick & if he is the choice, the #Patriots could simply hire him. No need to go through the lengthy hiring process -- they established a firm, contractual succession plan in a prior contract & communicated it to the NFL.

I don't think the team can simply hire Mayo without interviewing other candidates. The Rooney rule requires teams to interview two minority candidates for an open head coaching position.

As I previously questioned, shouldn't the team hire a GM first inorder to make one of the biggest football decisions the team has faced in years? From hiring a new head coach, free agency, and the draft. Picking the correct head coach is a big football decision that should be influenced by football minds, and not solely the owner.

Ian Rapoport
@RapSheet

Sources: Jerod Mayo is a strong candidate to replace Bill Belichick & if he is the choice, the #Patriots could simply hire him. No need to go through the lengthy hiring process -- they established a firm, contractual succession plan in a prior contract & communicated it to the NFL.

[Moranis]

New York media having fun with Bill leaving

https://twitter.com/NBCNewYork/status/1745429375577686184?t=YB1wNIgEelpF4CQf0Cj0KA&s=19

[SparzWizard]

New York media having fun with Bill leaving

https://twitter.com/NBCNewYork/status/1745429375577686184?t=YB1wNIgEelpF4CQf0Cj0KA&s=19

New York gets to say "We beat Bill Belichick twice in the Superbowl, bounced his 14-2 team in the Divisional Rounds, and ended Bill's career. HAHA Boston stinks!"

[celticsclay]

New York media having fun with Bill leaving

https://twitter.com/NBCNewYork/status/1745429375577686184?t=YB1wNIgEelpF4CQf0Cj0KA&s=19

Would be a bit funnier if both franchises weren’t train wrecks themselves. Are the giants a bottom five franchise heading into next year? No direction. Injured Daniel jones. Barkley wants to leave. Absolute mess.

[Moranis]

New York media having fun with Bill leaving

https://twitter.com/NBCNewYork/status/1745429375577686184?t=YB1wNIgEelpF4CQf0Cj0KA&s=19

New York gets to say "We beat Bill Belichick twice in the Superbowl, bounced his 14-2 team in the Divisional Rounds, and ended Bill's career. HAHA Boston stinks!"

Yeah, I thought it was pretty funny. Tongue in cheek type humor.  Apparently the joke is lost on some.

[Goldstar88]

Pats hire Mayo.

Adam Schefter
@AdamSchefter

It’s a new era in New England: the Patriots have hired Jerod Mayo as their next head coach and he will be formally introduced at a press conference next week, a source tells ESPN.

[Jon Niednagel]

I don’t hate the Mayo hiring. I know some people wanted someone with no ties to the organization, or Mike Vrable, which I get. However, Mayo has been putting in the time and working his way up in the organization. The side of the ball he has been coaching the last several years has been outstanding. He got head coach consideration from several organizations in recent years. He earned this opportunity IMO. Welcome Mayo! Look forward to seeing what you can do!

[BitterJim]

Pats hire Mayo.

Adam Schefter
@AdamSchefter

It’s a new era in New England: the Patriots have hired Jerod Mayo as their next head coach and he will be formally introduced at a press conference next week, a source tells ESPN.

I think that makes the GM job in NE a bit less desirable. Not because Mayo won't make a good head coach, but because hiring a coach without consulting your GM gives them some power over the head coach.

Maybe that's what Kraft wants, though, since in football the coach sets the direction of the team more than in some other sports. It'll be interesting to see who they bring in and what direction the team takes in this draft

[Vermont Green]

Pats hire Mayo.

Adam Schefter
@AdamSchefter

It’s a new era in New England: the Patriots have hired Jerod Mayo as their next head coach and he will be formally introduced at a press conference next week, a source tells ESPN.

Coaching is more important in some sports than others.  Football is the sport where it is probably most impactful.  Coaches develop all the schemes, call every play.  I don't know what Mayo has been doing behind the scenes so hard for me to judge what kind of head coach he is going to be.  But this feels like a major downgrade from Bill Belichick.  I don't see how this makes the team any better.

Should we start a new thread/topic?  This is Patriots 2023.  The new topic can be Patriots Post Belichick or something.

[Phantom255x]

Makes me wonder if the GM hire will also be soon, with an internal hire or bringing someone who has connections here (Wolf, Ziegler, etc.). Ideal guy would be Adam Peters. But yeah, with Mayo already here it might complicate the process for external candidates. It's kind of like the Red Sox where they booted their GM, but kept Cora and evidently gave him some input on stuff including the GM hire so it wasn't a sought out job.