2023 CS Historic Draft Thread - Results in OP!

[Kernewek]

I will say, I think it's a bit unfair to use the Pitino quote against T-Mac. What a player says ten years after his career is over doesn't mean much to me.

Sure, but as I said in those threads that quote kind of confirms what I've always thought of TMac i.e. an uber talented player that was selfish and never put the work in to be as great as he could have been.  Whenever it got tough, he bailed, and he never won a single playoff series.  How does someone that talented end up with talent resume.  If he had the desire of the all time greats, he'd have been one, instead of just another guy in the HOF.

How can you forget his epic contributions to the Spurs Finals team?  If Ray Allen doesn't hit a clutch shot, TMac has a ring, haha.

I mentioned his 31 minutes over 6 games on the prior page.

Good thing I’ll be picking his 02-03 season.

You know, when his BPM was the 2nd highest season since 1973-74, behind only Curry in 15-16, the season he was the NBA’s 1st/only unanimous MVP.

Is BPM meaningful?

Tmac strikes me as more of a downtempo guy than a high BPM person, to be honest.

[Roy H.]

Any chance we can check before 4 PM? I have to get my son from camp. If not, I will leave a list.

[Roy H.]

I will say, I think it's a bit unfair to use the Pitino quote against T-Mac. What a player says ten years after his career is over doesn't mean much to me.

Sure, but as I said in those threads that quote kind of confirms what I've always thought of TMac i.e. an uber talented player that was selfish and never put the work in to be as great as he could have been.  Whenever it got tough, he bailed, and he never won a single playoff series.  How does someone that talented end up with talent resume.  If he had the desire of the all time greats, he'd have been one, instead of just another guy in the HOF.

How can you forget his epic contributions to the Spurs Finals team?  If Ray Allen doesn't hit a clutch shot, TMac has a ring, haha.

I mentioned his 31 minutes over 6 games on the prior page.

Good thing I’ll be picking his 02-03 season.

You know, when his BPM was the 2nd highest season since 1973-74, behind only Curry in 15-16, the season he was the NBA’s 1st/only unanimous MVP.

Is BPM meaningful?

Tmac strikes me as more of a downtempo guy than a high BPM person, to be honest.

Ha.  You're going to beat out Redz as the master of puns.

[Kernewek]

Any chance we can check before 4 PM? I have to get my son from camp. If not, I will leave a list.

Happy to kick things off early, as I've got to cook dinner as well.

So, with the first pick of the second round of the draft, the Washington Generals select...

Tim.

[Moranis]

I will say, I think it's a bit unfair to use the Pitino quote against T-Mac. What a player says ten years after his career is over doesn't mean much to me.

Sure, but as I said in those threads that quote kind of confirms what I've always thought of TMac i.e. an uber talented player that was selfish and never put the work in to be as great as he could have been.  Whenever it got tough, he bailed, and he never won a single playoff series.  How does someone that talented end up with talent resume.  If he had the desire of the all time greats, he'd have been one, instead of just another guy in the HOF.

How can you forget his epic contributions to the Spurs Finals team?  If Ray Allen doesn't hit a clutch shot, TMac has a ring, haha.

I mentioned his 31 minutes over 6 games on the prior page.

Good thing I’ll be picking his 02-03 season.

You know, when his BPM was the 2nd highest season since 1973-74, behind only Curry in 15-16, the season he was the NBA’s 1st/only unanimous MVP.

Is BPM meaningful?

Tmac strikes me as more of a downtempo guy than a high BPM person, to be honest.

bball-ref has his BPM that season at 10.5, which is no where near the 2nd highest season since 74 when the stat started (it is tied for 24th). Jordan has 7 seasons at that level or higher and Lebron has 5 seasons.  Jokic has 3 of the highest seasons in history (Lebron is 2 and Jordan is 4).

It is the highest BPM of anyone available to be drafted though as most of the list ahead of him are active along with MJ, Robinson, Dr. J, and Wade.

[Kernewek]

Sorry, sorry, wrong Tim.

This Tim. The Tim We've all be waiting for. The best handles in the entire draft, the second biggest attitude in the league, a sweet bit of foreshadowing earlier in the thread with Zo and the 90's Miami Heat, plus the essential engine behind the Run TMC Warriors...it's Tim Hardaway!

[RPGenerate]

Tim Hardaway was such a fun player to watch on those Warriors and Heat teams.

[Moranis]

Sorry, sorry, wrong Tim.

This Tim. The Tim We've all be waiting for. The best handles in the entire draft, the second biggest attitude in the league, a sweet bit of foreshadowing earlier in the thread with Zo and the 90's Miami Heat, plus the essential engine behind the Run TMC Warriors...it's Tim Hardaway!

I was wondering about that first picture.  I had Hardaway lower, but solid pick.

[theswitch]

Tim and Rasheed is so fun. And so much personality. Not always good personality...but a lot nonetheless! It'd be a show.

[Who]

Always loved Timmy. Everyone loved Timmy.

Such a fun player to watch.

[Moranis]

Is Don on?

[Roy H.]

Don't see him.  Dons and Goukii have my pick. 

[RPGenerate]

I want a player that I think would fit perfectly here, but I would be absolutely shocked if someone didn't take him before me.

[Donoghus]

Sacramento selects Shawn Marion

[Moranis]

Love Marion, think he is too high.