Report: Lillard requests trade

[jpotter33]

The Heat package is not even in the same stratosphere as those two packages or the AD package, and Dame’s market is absolutely in that same range.

Dame is not in the same stratosphere as a 25/26 year old Anthony Davis. That is why AD netted NOP so much.

Nor is Dame in the same stratosphere as Kevin Durant. Similar age yes but not similar games. Durant is 6-11 vs a 6-2 guard and is a generational talent which Lillard is not. A former MVP who is still playing like a top 5 player in the league. Lillard is still playing at a great level as well, at a top 10 player in the league level, but that is another level below Durant + Lillard will have a much harder time maintaining that level of play moving forward as a 6-2 guard than a 6-11 Durant will.

Harden was only 31 when he moved to Brooklyn and still playing at an MVP level. The trade package Philly gave for Harden is closer to Lillard's value.

Lillard's value is lower than all these guys. He is earning so much money. $45mil this year up to $63mil in four years time when he is 36 years old. That is putting a massive dent in his trade market value.

I think the league market just completely disagrees, especially when guys like Gobert are getting 4+ first round picks themselves.

He’s still a top 75 guy and borderline MVP caliber player at his age who is locked up for several years, even at big money. And I think you’re underselling Dame’s value as a player compared to both KD and Harden. When Harden was traded there was significant questions about where he was at, as he wasn’t all that great in Brooklyn. He also had injury concerns, and KD also has a TON of injury concerns that aren’t there for Dame. So all those considerations included I absolutely think they’re in the same general area in terms of value, and I think the league agrees.

If his value is as low as you are arguing, the Heat trade would already be done. The fact that it isn’t shows that his market value is in the similar area as those other guys, which Miami simply can’t do.

[Goldstar88]

The Heat package is not even in the same stratosphere as those two packages or the AD package, and Dame’s market is absolutely in that same range.

Dame is not in the same stratosphere as a 25/26 year old Anthony Davis. That is why AD netted NOP so much.

Nor is Dame in the same stratosphere as Kevin Durant. Similar age yes but not similar games. Durant is 6-11 vs a 6-2 guard and is a generational talent which Lillard is not. A former MVP who is still playing like a top 5 player in the league. Lillard is still playing at a great level as well, at a top 10 player in the league level, but that is another level below Durant + Lillard will have a much harder time maintaining that level of play moving forward as a 6-2 guard than a 6-11 Durant will.

Harden was only 31 when he moved to Brooklyn and still playing at an MVP level. The trade package Philly gave for Harden is closer to Lillard's value.

Lillard's value is lower than all these guys. He is earning so much money. $45mil this year up to $63mil in four years time when he is 36 years old. That is putting a massive dent in his trade market value.

Not to mention how they are both on another planet defensively when compared to Dame. Seems like folks are ignoring how mediocre Lillard’s defense is. His offensive game is great, but there are two ends of the court… Brad also likes tall guards that can switch. Doesn’t exactly fit the bill.

[jpotter33]

The Heat package is not even in the same stratosphere as those two packages or the AD package, and Dame’s market is absolutely in that same range.

Dame is not in the same stratosphere as a 25/26 year old Anthony Davis. That is why AD netted NOP so much.

Nor is Dame in the same stratosphere as Kevin Durant. Similar age yes but not similar games. Durant is 6-11 vs a 6-2 guard and is a generational talent which Lillard is not. A former MVP who is still playing like a top 5 player in the league. Lillard is still playing at a great level as well, at a top 10 player in the league level, but that is another level below Durant + Lillard will have a much harder time maintaining that level of play moving forward as a 6-2 guard than a 6-11 Durant will.

Harden was only 31 when he moved to Brooklyn and still playing at an MVP level. The trade package Philly gave for Harden is closer to Lillard's value.

Lillard's value is lower than all these guys. He is earning so much money. $45mil this year up to $63mil in four years time when he is 36 years old. That is putting a massive dent in his trade market value.

Not to mention how they are both on another planet defensively when compared to Dame. Seems like folks are completely discounting how mediocre Lillard’s defense is. His offensive game is great, but there’s two ends of the court… Brad likes tall guards that can switch.

Uh, Harden is just as bad if not worse than Lillard on defense. How about him? And where does Brad come into this?

And KD hasn’t been able to play consistent good D on that side of the ball since his injuries. He just doesn’t have that level to his game anymore yo bring it that much on both sides of the ball. He’s not a Harden or Lillard level defender, but he’s not this elite or even above average defender anymore.

[Goldstar88]

The Heat package is not even in the same stratosphere as those two packages or the AD package, and Dame’s market is absolutely in that same range.

Dame is not in the same stratosphere as a 25/26 year old Anthony Davis. That is why AD netted NOP so much.

Nor is Dame in the same stratosphere as Kevin Durant. Similar age yes but not similar games. Durant is 6-11 vs a 6-2 guard and is a generational talent which Lillard is not. A former MVP who is still playing like a top 5 player in the league. Lillard is still playing at a great level as well, at a top 10 player in the league level, but that is another level below Durant + Lillard will have a much harder time maintaining that level of play moving forward as a 6-2 guard than a 6-11 Durant will.

Harden was only 31 when he moved to Brooklyn and still playing at an MVP level. The trade package Philly gave for Harden is closer to Lillard's value.

Lillard's value is lower than all these guys. He is earning so much money. $45mil this year up to $63mil in four years time when he is 36 years old. That is putting a massive dent in his trade market value.

Not to mention how they are both on another planet defensively when compared to Dame. Seems like folks are completely discounting how mediocre Lillard’s defense is. His offensive game is great, but there’s two ends of the court… Brad likes tall guards that can switch.

Uh, Harden is just as bad if not worse than Lillard on defense. How about him? And where does Brad come into this?

And KD hasn’t been able to play consistent good D on that side of the ball since his injuries. He just doesn’t have that level to his game anymore yo bring it that much on both sides of the ball. He’s not a Harden or Lillard level defender, but he’s not this elite or even above average defender anymore.

I highlighted the part of his quote that I was responding to. Brad is the GM. He decides who’s on the team. So that’s where he comes in.

[Who]

What teams are willing to give up a star for Lillard?

I see Philly with a comparable old guy in Harden who wants out. Maybe LAC who have two older SFs in PG13 (33yo) and Kawhi (32yo) who may trade one of those guys for Lillard since they are unhappy at the lack of success they have had with them.

I would be willing trade Jaylen but I don't think PBS will be willing to do so.

Is there anyone else out there who will give up an established star for Lillard? Or even a blue chip prospect?

[jay]

What if Brad is really trying to pull of Lillard?  That's why everything is so quiet.

He would send Brogdon to the Clippers.  Portland gets Rob, Zubac, Mann, Pritchard, Hauser, and for filler Marcus Morris contract. Boston shoots over future picks and pick swaps.

Clippers get Brogdon, Nurkic, Kornet.

Boston is left with a Big 4 plus Derrick White so the best starting 5 in the NBA.  Only Horford and Brissett left on the bench. Maybe they sign Grant Williams for big money first 2 years and just go for broke for the next two seasons.

Would be nuts but hey let's get nuts

[gouki88]

What teams are willing to give up a star for Lillard?

I see Philly with a comparable old guy in Harden who wants out. Maybe LAC who have two older SFs in PG13 (33yo) and Kawhi (32yo) who may trade one of those guys for Lillard since they are unhappy at the lack of success they have had with them.

I would be willing trade Jaylen but I don't think PBS will be willing to do so.

Is there anyone else out there who will give up an established star for Lillard? Or even a blue chip prospect?

Minny with KAT? Dame alongside Edwards would be thrilling

[Who]

What teams are willing to give up a star for Lillard?

I see Philly with a comparable old guy in Harden who wants out. Maybe LAC who have two older SFs in PG13 (33yo) and Kawhi (32yo) who may trade one of those guys for Lillard since they are unhappy at the lack of success they have had with them.

I would be willing trade Jaylen but I don't think PBS will be willing to do so.

Is there anyone else out there who will give up an established star for Lillard? Or even a blue chip prospect?

Minny with KAT? Dame alongside Edwards would be thrilling

Yeah, I'm down for that. For both teams. KAT would be great for POR to rebuild around with Scoot and A Simons in the backcourt.

[Who]

Some of the Miami offers I see mentioned as possibilities over at RealGM Forums have the 2 firsts, pick swaps, and their two most recent 1st round picks N Jovic and J Jacquez in the deal.

Equivalent of 4 1sts and pick swaps.

[Ed Monix]

What if Brad is really trying to pull of Lillard?  That's why everything is so quiet.

He would send Brogdon to the Clippers.  Portland gets Rob, Zubac, Mann, Pritchard, Hauser, and for filler Marcus Morris contract. Boston shoots over future picks and pick swaps.

Clippers get Brogdon, Nurkic, Kornet.

Boston is left with a Big 4 plus Derrick White so the best starting 5 in the NBA.  Only Horford and Brissett left on the bench. Maybe they sign Grant Williams for big money first 2 years and just go for broke for the next two seasons.

Would be nuts but hey let's get nuts

The Celtics can’t trade for Lillard, unless Brown is part of the deal.

Given the impending super-max extensions of Brown & Tatum, the NBA Collective Bargaining Agreement does not allow three super max players to be on the same team.

[Neurotic Guy]

Some of the Miami offers I see mentioned as possibilities over at RealGM Forums have the 2 firsts, pick swaps, and their two most recent 1st round picks N Jovic and J Jacquez in the deal.

Equivalent of 4 1sts and pick swaps.

Idk anything about Jovic or Jacques but late 1sts as will be the other firsts. All fine if Herro is more than what I think he is. Trading a top tier player in DL for a guy who sniff an all-star game in the future plus change is a fantastic trade for Miami.

I don’t know why Portland would rather have that than a DW, PP/Davison/Hauser, GSW #1… deal.  Could put Rob in the mix.  Cs could outbid that Miami deal without trading Jaylen.

[Ed Monix]

Some of the Miami offers I see mentioned as possibilities over at RealGM Forums have the 2 firsts, pick swaps, and their two most recent 1st round picks N Jovic and J Jacquez in the deal.

Equivalent of 4 1sts and pick swaps.

Idk anything about Jovic or Jacques but late 1sts as will be the other firsts. All fine if Herro is more than what I think he is. Trading a top tier player in DL for a guy who sniff an all-star game in the future plus change is a fantastic trade for Miami.

I don’t know why Portland would rather have that than a DW, PP/Davison/Hauser, GSW #1… deal.  Could put Rob in the mix.  Cs could outbid that Miami deal without trading Jaylen.

Haha sorry but I’ve got to say it again, the Celtics can’t trade for Lillard, unless Brown is in the deal.

Given the impending super-max extensions of Brown & Tatum, the NBA Collective Bargaining Agreement does not allow three super max players to be on the same team.

[Chef Parish]

How about Al Horford, PP, Hauser, Kornet, Brogdon and a bunch of first round picks for DL?

[DefenseWinsChamps]

Some of the Miami offers I see mentioned as possibilities over at RealGM Forums have the 2 firsts, pick swaps, and their two most recent 1st round picks N Jovic and J Jacquez in the deal.

Equivalent of 4 1sts and pick swaps.

Idk anything about Jovic or Jacques but late 1sts as will be the other firsts. All fine if Herro is more than what I think he is. Trading a top tier player in DL for a guy who sniff an all-star game in the future plus change is a fantastic trade for Miami.

I don’t know why Portland would rather have that than a DW, PP/Davison/Hauser, GSW #1… deal.  Could put Rob in the mix.  Cs could outbid that Miami deal without trading Jaylen.

Haha sorry but I’ve got to say it again, the Celtics can’t trade for Lillard, unless Brown is in the deal.

Given the impending super-max extensions of Brown & Tatum, the NBA Collective Bargaining Agreement does not allow three super max players to be on the same team.

Maybe Jaylen accepts less if we can get this deal done?

[Celtics2021]

Some of the Miami offers I see mentioned as possibilities over at RealGM Forums have the 2 firsts, pick swaps, and their two most recent 1st round picks N Jovic and J Jacquez in the deal.

Equivalent of 4 1sts and pick swaps.

Idk anything about Jovic or Jacques but late 1sts as will be the other firsts. All fine if Herro is more than what I think he is. Trading a top tier player in DL for a guy who sniff an all-star game in the future plus change is a fantastic trade for Miami.

I don’t know why Portland would rather have that than a DW, PP/Davison/Hauser, GSW #1… deal.  Could put Rob in the mix.  Cs could outbid that Miami deal without trading Jaylen.

Haha sorry but I’ve got to say it again, the Celtics can’t trade for Lillard, unless Brown is in the deal.

Given the impending super-max extensions of Brown & Tatum, the NBA Collective Bargaining Agreement does not allow three super max players to be on the same team.

They got rid of the two supermax limit in the new CBA.  If you want three and the restrictions/penalties that come with being over the second apron, not to mention the enormous tax bill, you are allowed to.