Report: Lillard requests trade

[Csfan1984]

I do like Nets deal of PG-Thomas, Simmons and 6 first.. Do Blazers say no to a truck load of first? Simmons only has two years left so he could have contract value next year as an expiring.

Lillard, Din, Mikal, Cameron, Claxton is a nice five and definitely a playoff team.

[hpantazo]

If I were the Sixers I'd be all over this. An offer of Maxey, Harden and picks is tough to beat and gives the Sixers a legit chance to win one with Embiid before his window starts closing.

[DefenseWinsChamps]

If I were the Sixers I'd be all over this. An offer of Maxey, Harden and picks is tough to beat and gives the Sixers a legit chance to win one with Embiid before his window starts closing.

Do the Blazers want Harden or Maxey? Isn't the whole point of trading Dame that they want to hand the offense over to Scoot?

The value is there, but not the fit. There would need to a 3rd team involved to get them wings/forwards/bigs to fit with Simons, Scoot, and Sharpe.

[jpotter33]

If I were the Sixers I'd be all over this. An offer of Maxey, Harden and picks is tough to beat and gives the Sixers a legit chance to win one with Embiid before his window starts closing.

The problem is fit for Portland. Just like with Herro, while Maxey projects better how does he fit with the trio of Scoot, Simons, and Sharpe already there?

It’s certainly more value than the Miami offer, but it’s still not great in terms of overall fit. And even if you trade Simons, does Maxey fit long-term next to Scoot and Sharpe?

[hpantazo]

If I were the Sixers I'd be all over this. An offer of Maxey, Harden and picks is tough to beat and gives the Sixers a legit chance to win one with Embiid before his window starts closing.

Do the Blazers want Harden or Maxey? Isn't the whole point of trading Dame that they want to hand the offense over to Scoot?

The value is there, but not the fit. There would need to a 3rd team involved to get them wings/forwards/bigs to fit with Simons, Scoot, and Sharpe.

Harden is an expiring deal to match salaries, and Maxey and picks is good value. I'm sure they could move either one or both to a third team for a great return that gives them better roster balance if they want to.

[Who]

If I were the Sixers I'd be all over this. An offer of Maxey, Harden and picks is tough to beat and gives the Sixers a legit chance to win one with Embiid before his window starts closing.

Do the Blazers want Harden or Maxey? Isn't the whole point of trading Dame that they want to hand the offense over to Scoot?

The value is there, but not the fit. There would need to a 3rd team involved to get them wings/forwards/bigs to fit with Simons, Scoot, and Sharpe.

Could Philly make a 2nd offer - one with Harden and one without Harden.

1st offer = Harden for Lillard straight up.
2nd offer = T Harris & Maxey for Lillard.

Philly create a new Big Three around Embiid, Lillard and Harden. They keep PJ Tucker to be a glue guy at forward. Then gotta scrape for good minimum contract help in the frontcourt. They got Pat Beverley and D Melton in the backcourt.

[Who]

If I were the Sixers I'd be all over this. An offer of Maxey, Harden and picks is tough to beat and gives the Sixers a legit chance to win one with Embiid before his window starts closing.

The problem is fit for Portland. Just like with Herro, while Maxey projects better how does he fit with the trio of Scoot, Simons, and Sharpe already there?

It’s certainly more value than the Miami offer, but it’s still not great in terms of overall fit. And even if you trade Simons, does Maxey fit long-term next to Scoot and Sharpe?

I think you trade Maxey if your Portland. Him and Scoot do not go well together. Too small. Like Steph and Monta.

But I'd take Maxey in a trade and then move him on elsewhere for something useful.

[jpotter33]

If I were the Sixers I'd be all over this. An offer of Maxey, Harden and picks is tough to beat and gives the Sixers a legit chance to win one with Embiid before his window starts closing.

Do the Blazers want Harden or Maxey? Isn't the whole point of trading Dame that they want to hand the offense over to Scoot?

The value is there, but not the fit. There would need to a 3rd team involved to get them wings/forwards/bigs to fit with Simons, Scoot, and Sharpe.

Yeah, all the young assets currently available for trade are not great fits for their current team and direction.

The more I think about it, the more someone like Brown seems like a perfect trade candidate for them. Hes a great fit at the wing for their young core. He’s also young enough to still build for the future with Scoot and Sharpe and Simons, while also keeping them competitive as a playoff team in the interim alongside Grant. If they could get some reassurances about him potentially resigning there next summer, I think they’d be all over that as a perfect replacement for Dame. A Scoot/Simons, Sharpe, Brown, Grant, and Nurkic lineup is pretty intriguing.

Whether that’s best for Boston is another story. I think it’d only happen if we can’t come to an agreement on an extension.

[johnnygreen]

Just to get a trade idea in, before Jaylen signs his extension and Lillard is traded.

Boston - Lillard, Nurkic
Portland - Brown, Brogdon, and Timelord

I think this works for both teams. Boston gets one of the best closers in the game and a reliable center. Portland gets an All NBA player, an exciting young center, and a veteran pg to ease the pressure Scoot Henderson.

[celticsclay]

Just to get a trade idea in, before Jaylen signs his extension and Lillard is traded.

Boston - Lillard, Nurkic
Portland - Brown, Brogdon, and Timelord

I think this works for both teams. Boston gets one of the best closers in the game and a reliable center. Portland gets an All NBA player, an exciting young center, and a veteran pg to ease the pressure Scoot Henderson.

This is a really awful trade for the Celtics. Do people not realize nurkic is a constantly injured horrible defense overpaid center?

[celticsclay]

If I were the Sixers I'd be all over this. An offer of Maxey, Harden and picks is tough to beat and gives the Sixers a legit chance to win one with Embiid before his window starts closing.

Do the Blazers want Harden or Maxey? Isn't the whole point of trading Dame that they want to hand the offense over to Scoot?

The value is there, but not the fit. There would need to a 3rd team involved to get them wings/forwards/bigs to fit with Simons, Scoot, and Sharpe.

Could Philly make a 2nd offer - one with Harden and one without Harden.

1st offer = Harden for Lillard straight up.
2nd offer = T Harris & Maxey for Lillard.

Philly create a new Big Three around Embiid, Lillard and Harden. They keep PJ Tucker to be a glue guy at forward. Then gotta scrape for good minimum contract help in the frontcourt. They got Pat Beverley and D Melton in the backcourt.

The harden part doesn’t really make sense for either side. Could see the Tobias maxey deal though. 76ers then get powell and maybe Covington back for harden

[G-Bones]

Just to get a trade idea in, before Jaylen signs his extension and Lillard is traded.

Boston - Lillard, Nurkic
Portland - Brown, Brogdon, and Timelord

I think this works for both teams. Boston gets one of the best closers in the game and a reliable center. Portland gets an All NBA player, an exciting young center, and a veteran pg to ease the pressure Scoot Henderson.

Thank God you aren’t the GM.  Seriously.

[Muzzy66]

Just to get a trade idea in, before Jaylen signs his extension and Lillard is traded.

Boston - Lillard, Nurkic
Portland - Brown, Brogdon, and Timelord

I think this works for both teams. Boston gets one of the best closers in the game and a reliable center. Portland gets an All NBA player, an exciting young center, and a veteran pg to ease the pressure Scoot Henderson.

This is a really awful trade for the Celtics. Do people not realize nurkic is a constantly injured horrible defense overpaid center?

I agree - I'm not getting this one. 

Jaylen Brown for Lillard straight up would be fair in terms of pure asset value - Lillard is more established and has more star power, but JB is younger and has more upside, and would be an amazing core piece for Portland to build a young team around. 

To add Brogdon (an excellent player and reigning 6MOTY) and Timelord (probably a top 10 center in the NBA, on a good contract, with good upside) as what would basically just amount to salary filler is crazy.

If you're going to do a Brown-for-Lillard trade then it would make a lot more sense to do Brown for Lillard, and then include Grant Williams as a sign-and-trade (at approx $16M a year - which is realistic money for GW) to make up the salary difference.  Williams would probably be happy to agree to this as he would get a nice pay day and a bigger role, and he'd be able to joing JB.

This leaves Portland with:

c: Jusuf Nurkic (28)
PF: Jerami Grant (29)
SF: Jaylen Brown (26)
SG: Anfernee Simons (24)
PG: Scoot Henderson (19)
Bench: Grant Williams (24), Thybulle, Knox

For Boston:

C: Rob Williams
PF: Kristaps Porzingis
SF: Jayson Tatum
SG: Derrick White
PG: Damian Lillard
Bench: Horford, Brogdon, Pritchard, Brissett, Hauser, Kornet

That would be an outstanding young core for Portland - that team probably makes the playoffs from day one and would have a ton of upside.  This would actually be a spectacular deal for Portland.  Brown would also become the immediate face of the Blazers and would get his own team, so he'd probably be happy.  Grant Williams gets a payday and a big role.  And from what I understand they would still have plenty of picks to be able to add future young talent to the team via the draft or trades.

If I'm Brad Stevens I'm not sure I'm taking the risk of giving up a great young player like Brown (and giving up that potentially huge 6-7 year window of contention) for 2-3 year window with Lillard.  You certainly have to think about it though...that is a serious contender. 

[gouki88]

Just to get a trade idea in, before Jaylen signs his extension and Lillard is traded.

Boston - Lillard, Nurkic
Portland - Brown, Brogdon, and Timelord

I think this works for both teams. Boston gets one of the best closers in the game and a reliable center. Portland gets an All NBA player, an exciting young center, and a veteran pg to ease the pressure Scoot Henderson.

This is a really awful trade for the Celtics. Do people not realize nurkic is a constantly injured horrible defense overpaid center?

It’s such a shame Nurkic broke his leg, because he was looking like being a really good big man. Now, he’s not so good. Can pass, rebound and score a bit, but is so injury prone! Only works in drop coverage D too

[GreenEnvy]

Herro sucks. Can't guard and is hurt a lot. I would not want the contract either.

I would take Herro for Brogdon and the Warriors first. Blazers get an extra solid first and can flip Brogdon for more assets at the deadline.

What?!

I wouldn’t trade (healthy) Brogdon for (healthy) Herro straight up. Including that pick, no chance.