Celtics Off-Season News

[Celtics2021]

Celtics have two good three point shooters off the bench

?? Brogdon, Hauser & Pritchard are all exceptional shooters. Svi is also good

Was talking more about specialist from 3 in Hauser and Svi

I'm a cynic, but I don't think Svi is a specialist.  I'd say he's average.

I am not sure what Svi is or can be.  I guess we will all find out.  I do think he is a good shooter, 42% from 3 last season between NYK an CHA.  He only played 32 games total though.  I think he will prove useful albeit in limited action.

Svi is another guy who can fill in and pay minutes when our guys need a breather or day off.  He's also Hauser protection.  There was a 2 month stretch last year that Hauser couldn't hit the broad side of a barn and was unplayable.  Svi is protection when Hauser gets into a slump.  I imagine that Hauser was give the explicit instruction to work on his body to improve explosion and handles.  Work on pump fakes and driving to the hoop. Similar to what it seemed Grant worked on going into last year.  If he can improve in those areas he will be a part of the rotation and can hopefully contribute to the team how Strus contributed to Miami.  I think Strus is a better athlete but if Hauser can hit his shots and play a serviceable D he will get his 15-17 minutes per night.

Which do you want? Improved explosion/handles or 3-and-D? Hauser will likely never have improved explosiveness and his handles may only improve marginally. He's just an average athlete. On the other hand, he already is a decent 3-and-D guy. So, he already 'is what he is' offensively. One of his best assets is his reasonable contract.

Rather than Svi being protection for Hauser slumps, I would posit that he makes Hauser expendable. The team has too many wings now.

The team doesn’t have too many wings.  There will almost always be two wings on the court, and often times three.  Our roster should be approximately 50% wings, with a variety of skillsets.

And Svi is probably not good enough to make Hauser expendable.

[Neurotic Guy]

Celtics have two good three point shooters off the bench

?? Brogdon, Hauser & Pritchard are all exceptional shooters. Svi is also good

Was talking more about specialist from 3 in Hauser and Svi

I'm a cynic, but I don't think Svi is a specialist.  I'd say he's average.

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I think valuable bench guys are either average players or specialists.  It’s good to have an average NBA SF as 10th/11th or so guy.

Edit: oops - you meant average shooter not average all around. 

[Surferdad]

Celtics have two good three point shooters off the bench

?? Brogdon, Hauser & Pritchard are all exceptional shooters. Svi is also good

Was talking more about specialist from 3 in Hauser and Svi

I'm a cynic, but I don't think Svi is a specialist.  I'd say he's average.

I am not sure what Svi is or can be.  I guess we will all find out.  I do think he is a good shooter, 42% from 3 last season between NYK an CHA.  He only played 32 games total though.  I think he will prove useful albeit in limited action.

Svi is another guy who can fill in and pay minutes when our guys need a breather or day off.  He's also Hauser protection.  There was a 2 month stretch last year that Hauser couldn't hit the broad side of a barn and was unplayable.  Svi is protection when Hauser gets into a slump.  I imagine that Hauser was give the explicit instruction to work on his body to improve explosion and handles.  Work on pump fakes and driving to the hoop. Similar to what it seemed Grant worked on going into last year.  If he can improve in those areas he will be a part of the rotation and can hopefully contribute to the team how Strus contributed to Miami.  I think Strus is a better athlete but if Hauser can hit his shots and play a serviceable D he will get his 15-17 minutes per night.

Which do you want? Improved explosion/handles or 3-and-D? Hauser will likely never have improved explosiveness and his handles may only improve marginally. He's just an average athlete. On the other hand, he already is a decent 3-and-D guy. So, he already 'is what he is' offensively. One of his best assets is his reasonable contract.

Rather than Svi being protection for Hauser slumps, I would posit that he makes Hauser expendable. The team has too many wings now.

The team doesn’t have too many wings.  There will almost always be two wings on the court, and often times three.  Our roster should be approximately 50% wings, with a variety of skillsets.

And Svi is probably not good enough to make Hauser expendable.

Gee, I thought it would be obvious that Tatum/Brown will soak up most of those minutes.

Backup wings are currently: Hauser, Mykhailiuk, Brissett, Walsh, Banton. Seems like a lot.

[Celtics2021]

Celtics have two good three point shooters off the bench

?? Brogdon, Hauser & Pritchard are all exceptional shooters. Svi is also good

Was talking more about specialist from 3 in Hauser and Svi

I'm a cynic, but I don't think Svi is a specialist.  I'd say he's average.

I am not sure what Svi is or can be.  I guess we will all find out.  I do think he is a good shooter, 42% from 3 last season between NYK an CHA.  He only played 32 games total though.  I think he will prove useful albeit in limited action.

Svi is another guy who can fill in and pay minutes when our guys need a breather or day off.  He's also Hauser protection.  There was a 2 month stretch last year that Hauser couldn't hit the broad side of a barn and was unplayable.  Svi is protection when Hauser gets into a slump.  I imagine that Hauser was give the explicit instruction to work on his body to improve explosion and handles.  Work on pump fakes and driving to the hoop. Similar to what it seemed Grant worked on going into last year.  If he can improve in those areas he will be a part of the rotation and can hopefully contribute to the team how Strus contributed to Miami.  I think Strus is a better athlete but if Hauser can hit his shots and play a serviceable D he will get his 15-17 minutes per night.

Which do you want? Improved explosion/handles or 3-and-D? Hauser will likely never have improved explosiveness and his handles may only improve marginally. He's just an average athlete. On the other hand, he already is a decent 3-and-D guy. So, he already 'is what he is' offensively. One of his best assets is his reasonable contract.

Rather than Svi being protection for Hauser slumps, I would posit that he makes Hauser expendable. The team has too many wings now.

The team doesn’t have too many wings.  There will almost always be two wings on the court, and often times three.  Our roster should be approximately 50% wings, with a variety of skillsets.

And Svi is probably not good enough to make Hauser expendable.

Gee, I thought it would be obvious that Tatum/Brown will soak up most of those minutes.

Backup wings are currently: Hauser, Mykhailiuk, Brissett, Walsh, Banton. Seems like a lot.

Doesn’t to me.  We aren’t going to play double bigs always.  More than last year, maybe, but I’d bet at least 50% of the minutes at the 4 will go to a wing rather than a big.  So if 50% of the minutes go to wings, it’s not crazy that 50% of the roster would be wings.

[Vermont Green]

Doesn’t to me.  We aren’t going to play double bigs always.  More than last year, maybe, but I’d bet at least 50% of the minutes at the 4 will go to a wing rather than a big.  So if 50% of the minutes go to wings, it’s not crazy that 50% of the roster would be wings.

I don't know, could be.  Here is what I see for minutes by the core regulars (using round numbers to keep the math easy):

PG:  White 36 / Brogdon 12
SG:  Brown 36 / Brogdon 12
SF:  Tatum 36 / Hauser 12
PF   Porzingis 24 / Horford 12
C    Williams 24 / Horford 12

That leaves about 24 minutes to be picked up by someone.  I could see 12 minutes of small ball with Pritchard in (Tatum at PF) and another 12 minutes of "swing" ball with Brissett playing as a PF.  That does add up to about half the time (24 minutes) of playing with only one of Porzingis, Williams, or Horford.  That leaves Walsh and Svi as insurance or deep bench wings.  I am not sure Banton is a wing, seems like more of a combo guard like Pritchard or Brogdon.

Combo Guards:   White, Brogdon, Pritchard, Banton
Wings:                Brown, Tatum, Hauser, Brissett, Walsh, Svi
Bigs:                  Porzingis, Horford, Williams, Kornet

I think we are a tad heavy on wings and a tad light on bigs (PFs in particular), but nothing terribly out of balance.  Also, even though we have 4 bigs who can play (OK, maybe 3.5) the problem is they all lean more C than PF.  I think Porzingis and Horford are fine to play as a PF beside a true center, but the clear need is for a natural PF to add to the big mix.  Also, I am not that concerned with Brissett playing swing/PF.  I prefer him taking on that role over Tatum.  He is actually taller than Grant, and more wingspan.  I would prefer a natural PF for those minutes but not the end of the world to start the sesaon.

[Surferdad]

Thanks VG. I was too lazy to do the minutes breakdown. Glad to see it sort of proves my point but not in clear-cut way at all. With injuries possible, the picture will change, for example, if Porzingis is minutes-restricted then C's may not play double-big as much, resulting on more minutes for wings.

[footey]

Doesn’t to me.  We aren’t going to play double bigs always.  More than last year, maybe, but I’d bet at least 50% of the minutes at the 4 will go to a wing rather than a big.  So if 50% of the minutes go to wings, it’s not crazy that 50% of the roster would be wings.

I don't know, could be.  Here is what I see for minutes by the core regulars (using round numbers to keep the math easy):

PG:  White 36 / Brogdon 12
SG:  Brown 36 / Brogdon 12
SF:  Tatum 36 / Hauser 12
PF   Porzingis 24 / Horford 12
C    Williams 24 / Horford 12

That leaves about 24 minutes to be picked up by someone.  I could see 12 minutes of small ball with Pritchard in (Tatum at PF) and another 12 minutes of "swing" ball with Brissett playing as a PF.  That does add up to about half the time (24 minutes) of playing with only one of Porzingis, Williams, or Horford.  That leaves Walsh and Svi as insurance or deep bench wings.  I am not sure Banton is a wing, seems like more of a combo guard like Pritchard or Brogdon.

Combo Guards:   White, Brogdon, Pritchard, Banton
Wings:                Brown, Tatum, Hauser, Brissett, Walsh, Svi
Bigs:                  Porzingis, Horford, Williams, Kornet

I think we are a tad heavy on wings and a tad light on bigs (PFs in particular), but nothing terribly out of balance.  Also, even though we have 4 bigs who can play (OK, maybe 3.5) the problem is they all lean more C than PF.  I think Porzingis and Horford are fine to play as a PF beside a true center, but the clear need is for a natural PF to add to the big mix.  Also, I am not that concerned with Brissett playing swing/PF.  I prefer him taking on that role over Tatum.  He is actually taller than Grant, and more wingspan.  I would prefer a natural PF for those minutes but not the end of the world to start the sesaon.

Doubt White plays 12 minutes more per game than Brogdon.  That's a full quarter.  Also think more minutes for Pritchard than you project.

[Neurotic Guy]

Doesn’t to me.  We aren’t going to play double bigs always.  More than last year, maybe, but I’d bet at least 50% of the minutes at the 4 will go to a wing rather than a big.  So if 50% of the minutes go to wings, it’s not crazy that 50% of the roster would be wings.

I don't know, could be.  Here is what I see for minutes by the core regulars (using round numbers to keep the math easy):

PG:  White 36 / Brogdon 12
SG:  Brown 36 / Brogdon 12
SF:  Tatum 36 / Hauser 12
PF   Porzingis 24 / Horford 12
C    Williams 24 / Horford 12

That leaves about 24 minutes to be picked up by someone.  I could see 12 minutes of small ball with Pritchard in (Tatum at PF) and another 12 minutes of "swing" ball with Brissett playing as a PF.  That does add up to about half the time (24 minutes) of playing with only one of Porzingis, Williams, or Horford.  That leaves Walsh and Svi as insurance or deep bench wings.  I am not sure Banton is a wing, seems like more of a combo guard like Pritchard or Brogdon.

Combo Guards:   White, Brogdon, Pritchard, Banton
Wings:                Brown, Tatum, Hauser, Brissett, Walsh, Svi
Bigs:                  Porzingis, Horford, Williams, Kornet

I think we are a tad heavy on wings and a tad light on bigs (PFs in particular), but nothing terribly out of balance.  Also, even though we have 4 bigs who can play (OK, maybe 3.5) the problem is they all lean more C than PF.  I think Porzingis and Horford are fine to play as a PF beside a true center, but the clear need is for a natural PF to add to the big mix.  Also, I am not that concerned with Brissett playing swing/PF.  I prefer him taking on that role over Tatum.  He is actually taller than Grant, and more wingspan.  I would prefer a natural PF for those minutes but not the end of the world to start the sesaon.

Doubt White plays 12 minutes more per game than Brogdon.  That's a full quarter.  Also think more minutes for Pritchard than you project.

It’ll depend on performance but PP should have the opportunity to play 15+ per game. Approximately the 15-20 that Eddie House played.

[Vermont Green]

Doesn’t to me.  We aren’t going to play double bigs always.  More than last year, maybe, but I’d bet at least 50% of the minutes at the 4 will go to a wing rather than a big.  So if 50% of the minutes go to wings, it’s not crazy that 50% of the roster would be wings.

I don't know, could be.  Here is what I see for minutes by the core regulars (using round numbers to keep the math easy):

PG:  White 36 / Brogdon 12
SG:  Brown 36 / Brogdon 12
SF:  Tatum 36 / Hauser 12
PF   Porzingis 24 / Horford 12
C    Williams 24 / Horford 12

That leaves about 24 minutes to be picked up by someone.  I could see 12 minutes of small ball with Pritchard in (Tatum at PF) and another 12 minutes of "swing" ball with Brissett playing as a PF.  That does add up to about half the time (24 minutes) of playing with only one of Porzingis, Williams, or Horford.  That leaves Walsh and Svi as insurance or deep bench wings.  I am not sure Banton is a wing, seems like more of a combo guard like Pritchard or Brogdon.

Combo Guards:   White, Brogdon, Pritchard, Banton
Wings:                Brown, Tatum, Hauser, Brissett, Walsh, Svi
Bigs:                  Porzingis, Horford, Williams, Kornet

I think we are a tad heavy on wings and a tad light on bigs (PFs in particular), but nothing terribly out of balance.  Also, even though we have 4 bigs who can play (OK, maybe 3.5) the problem is they all lean more C than PF.  I think Porzingis and Horford are fine to play as a PF beside a true center, but the clear need is for a natural PF to add to the big mix.  Also, I am not that concerned with Brissett playing swing/PF.  I prefer him taking on that role over Tatum.  He is actually taller than Grant, and more wingspan.  I would prefer a natural PF for those minutes but not the end of the world to start the season.

Doubt White plays 12 minutes more per game than Brogdon.  That's a full quarter.  Also think more minutes for Pritchard than you project.

You could be right.  White played 28 min last season when we had Smart.  Maybe White is more in the 32 range and Pritchard is more in the 16 range.  That really doesn't change things all that much.

But it is a fair question of who plays when one or more of Porzingis, Horford, and Williams are out.  As it stands, I think you would see Kornet getting in plus more minutes for the likes of Brissett and Hauser.  That is why I feel a decent bench PF is such a big need.  I think the team is better when they play 2-bigs, like they did in the second half of 2021-22, and went on such a hot run.

[gouki88]

Celtics have two good three point shooters off the bench

?? Brogdon, Hauser & Pritchard are all exceptional shooters. Svi is also good

Was talking more about specialist from 3 in Hauser and Svi

I'm a cynic, but I don't think Svi is a specialist.  I'd say he's average.

It might be semantics, but I would differ again - I'd say he's streaky. But, his streaks last a long time. Hence we see a season of 42% 3PT shooting preceded by 2 seasons under 34%, preceded again by another season at 40%.

[tenn_smoothie]

Shams is reporting via Twitter:

Free agent Svi Mykhailiuk has agreed to a one-year deal with the Boston Celtics, sources tell
@TheAthletic @Stadium.

Seems a bit redundant to Hauser but seems like a good depth piece.  There was an earlier thread with a U-Tube highlights video.  I see a player who moves really well off the ball, always in motion coming through the lane and off screens, and yes, can shoot well.  Been with 6 teams already, but only 26.  Probably will not be one of the top 10 on the roster, but seems like a reasonably reliable bench player with some ceiling.

Really like this signing for a deep bench guy. Svi imo is tougher than Hauser, moves better without the ball, and is a better defender.

Aren't his 3-point % better than Hauser as well ?

[rocknrollforyoursoul]

The Hauser-Svi debate is kinda funny. Is either of them really gonna do a whole heck of a lot next season?

[Roy H.]

The Hauser-Svi debate is kinda funny. Is either of them really gonna do a whole heck of a lot next season?

I think Hauser can.  He's been a 40% shooter from 3PT in every stop dating back to his junior year in high school.

[Neurotic Guy]

The Hauser-Svi debate is kinda funny. Is either of them really gonna do a whole heck of a lot next season?

I think Hauser can.  He's been a 40% shooter from 3PT in every stop dating back to his junior year in high school.

Who will emerge as steady contributor(s) from the band of 6’7”: Hauser, Svi, Brissett, Banton, Walsh?   

I like Hauser’s chances. Also keep forgetting about Walsh - might be a useful rookie.  Team is pretty deep if healthy.  I am one of few who thinks Kornet isn’t a bad 4th big to have for mop up and emergency. 

Get Blake.

[Roy H.]

The Hauser-Svi debate is kinda funny. Is either of them really gonna do a whole heck of a lot next season?

I think Hauser can.  He's been a 40% shooter from 3PT in every stop dating back to his junior year in high school.

Who will emerge as steady contributor(s) from the band of 6’7”: Hauser, Svi, Brissett, Banton, Walsh?   

I like Hauser’s chances. Also keep forgetting about Walsh - might be a useful rookie.  Team is pretty deep if healthy.  I am one of few who thinks Kornet isn’t a bad 4th big to have for mop up and emergency. 

Get Blake.

I don't love our big depth.  Timelord, KP, and Horford are likely to miss 15 to 20 games each, and one will likely miss closer to 40.  Kornet is fine as the 5th or 6th big, but I don't love that we lost Grant, Muscula, Griffin and Gallinari and only added one big man.

With good health, we're fine.  I just don't predict good health.