Celtics Off-Season News

[Vermont Green]

Another fringe-roster dumpster dice.  Woot!

I think you are being a bit harsh.  He has played 252 NBA games, 55 starts, at age 26.  Career 36% from 3 on 921 attempts, about 42% last season over 99 attempts.  I don't know what you expect for the bottom third of the roster.  He is replacing Champagnie (who really was a fringe-roster player).  Isn't that a major upgrade?  He appears to me to be good enough to be a useful emergency fill-in, maybe even a little better than that.  I would have preferred an established PF but as the Rolling Stones have immortalized, "you can't always get what you want but if you try sometimes, you just might find, you get what you need".

And we do still have an open roster spot, Banton is barely guaranteed (up to opening night), and a TPE.

[gouki88]

Shams is reporting via Twitter:

Free agent Svi Mykhailiuk has agreed to a one-year deal with the Boston Celtics, sources tell
@TheAthletic @Stadium.

Odd. A slightly worse Sam Hauser seems a bit redundant to me, but Svi is still an alright 3rd stringer

Feels like the only reason someone in his position in the depth chart would play is if something happened to Hauser in the first place, which makes this a reasonable insurance policy to me.

I mean, I guess so. I just feel like we should look for someone who can complement our bench players, rather than replicate them. Mainly because it is our bigs who are most likely to get hurt

[gouki88]

Celtics have two good three point shooters off the bench

?? Brogdon, Hauser & Pritchard are all exceptional shooters. Svi is also good

[Vermont Green]

Chris Haynes: Free agent center JaVale McGee will sign with the Sacramento Kings, league sources tell @NBAonTNT , @BleacherReport . – via Twitter ChrisBHaynes

[Vermont Green]

Bobby Manning: Had heard overseas was more likely for Svi Mykhailiuk, so him actually landing with the #Celtics surprised me. They liked him & he fits their desire to have more established players on the end of the roster into camp. Have to think 15th & final is still Blake’s if he wants it. – via Twitter RealBobManning

Blake would not be the end of the world but hard to believe there aren't any better options out there.

[gouki88]

Bobby Manning: Had heard overseas was more likely for Svi Mykhailiuk, so him actually landing with the #Celtics surprised me. They liked him & he fits their desire to have more established players on the end of the roster into camp. Have to think 15th & final is still Blake’s if he wants it. – via Twitter RealBobManning

Blake would not be the end of the world but hard to believe there aren't any better options out there.

What/who constitutes a better option? Blake is a great locker room presence who can play in the right situations. Able to function well on our offence, and doesn’t rock the boat. Not sure any others available would be comfortable sitting out most nights

[GetLucky]

Shams is reporting via Twitter:

Free agent Svi Mykhailiuk has agreed to a one-year deal with the Boston Celtics, sources tell
@TheAthletic @Stadium.

Odd. A slightly worse Sam Hauser seems a bit redundant to me, but Svi is still an alright 3rd stringer

Feels like the only reason someone in his position in the depth chart would play is if something happened to Hauser in the first place, which makes this a reasonable insurance policy to me.

I mean, I guess so. I just feel like we should look for someone who can complement our bench players, rather than replicate them. Mainly because it is our bigs who are most likely to get hurt

Most players who can do that want to play every night. Dwight Howard had tons of contract offers before he went to Taiwan but wanted to start.

I actually think Svi is something the team lacked. He’s more of a true 2 that can play the 3 as opposed to a 1/2 like White/Brogdon or a 3/2 like Hauser or Brown. He averaged over 5 assists per game in Charlotte last year over 19 games. Shooting with secondary playmaking is awesome. Among players with at least 100 pick and rolls last year (a small sample, Harden had over 3000), Svi had the most points per possession.

[Surferdad]

Another fringe-roster dumpster dice.  Woot!

I think you are being a bit harsh.  He has played 252 NBA games, 55 starts, at age 26.  Career 36% from 3 on 921 attempts, about 42% last season over 99 attempts.  I don't know what you expect for the bottom third of the roster.  He is replacing Champagnie (who really was a fringe-roster player).  Isn't that a major upgrade?  He appears to me to be good enough to be a useful emergency fill-in, maybe even a little better than that.  I would have preferred an established PF but as the Rolling Stones have immortalized, "you can't always get what you want but if you try sometimes, you just might find, you get what you need".

And we do still have an open roster spot, Banton is barely guaranteed (up to opening night), and a TPE.

Yeah Svi is obviously better than Champagnie, but to follow the metaphor of Stones song though, he's not what we need. IMO we need another front court player and Svi is definitely not that. In addition, we have too many backup wings now: Svi, Hauser, Brissett, Walsh.

[Vermont Green]

Bobby Manning: Had heard overseas was more likely for Svi Mykhailiuk, so him actually landing with the #Celtics surprised me. They liked him & he fits their desire to have more established players on the end of the roster into camp. Have to think 15th & final is still Blake’s if he wants it. – via Twitter RealBobManning

Blake would not be the end of the world but hard to believe there aren't any better options out there.

What/who constitutes a better option? Blake is a great locker room presence who can play in the right situations. Able to function well on our offence, and doesn’t rock the boat. Not sure any others available would be comfortable sitting out most nights

To me, a better option is a natural PF for the bench who play every night in the regular rotation.  Someone who would be the 8th guy, or in that range.  Griffin primarily played C in place of Horford last season, but only played 41 games.  As I said, Blake is fine but he won't be needed as much this season as we have Porzingis.

[Vermont Green]

Another fringe-roster dumpster dice.  Woot!

I think you are being a bit harsh.  He has played 252 NBA games, 55 starts, at age 26.  Career 36% from 3 on 921 attempts, about 42% last season over 99 attempts.  I don't know what you expect for the bottom third of the roster.  He is replacing Champagnie (who really was a fringe-roster player).  Isn't that a major upgrade?  He appears to me to be good enough to be a useful emergency fill-in, maybe even a little better than that.  I would have preferred an established PF but as the Rolling Stones have immortalized, "you can't always get what you want but if you try sometimes, you just might find, you get what you need".

And we do still have an open roster spot, Banton is barely guaranteed (up to opening night), and a TPE.

Yeah Svi is obviously better than Champagnie, but to follow the metaphor of Stones song though, he's not what we need. IMO we need another front court player and Svi is definitely not that. In addition, we have too many backup wings now: Svi, Hauser, Brissett, Walsh.

I don't disagree, we do need a natural PF for the bench for the 2nd unit, and Svi isn't that.  He is a really nice piece for the 3rd unit though (deeper bench) and I think will prove useful.  At 26, he also still has some ceiling.  He is much better than fringe dumpster or whatever Roy called him.  He has been a half decent NBA bench player, a journeyman for sure, but he is an NBA player.

3rd Unit:

Banton
Svi
Walsh
.....?
Kornet

If we could get a natural PF for the 2nd unit, Brissett would bump down and be the last piece for the 3rd unit.  I think that is a fine 3rd unit.  A good mix of reliable known players (Kornet, Svi) and prospects (Banton, Walsh).  And if Brissett bumps down to the 3rd unit, even better.

[celticinorlando]

Celtics have two good three point shooters off the bench

?? Brogdon, Hauser & Pritchard are all exceptional shooters. Svi is also good

Was talking more about specialist from 3 in Hauser and Svi

[Roy H.]

Celtics have two good three point shooters off the bench

?? Brogdon, Hauser & Pritchard are all exceptional shooters. Svi is also good

Was talking more about specialist from 3 in Hauser and Svi

I'm a cynic, but I don't think Svi is a specialist.  I'd say he's average.

[Vermont Green]

Celtics have two good three point shooters off the bench

?? Brogdon, Hauser & Pritchard are all exceptional shooters. Svi is also good

Was talking more about specialist from 3 in Hauser and Svi

I'm a cynic, but I don't think Svi is a specialist.  I'd say he's average.

I am not sure what Svi is or can be.  I guess we will all find out.  I do think he is a good shooter, 42% from 3 last season between NYK an CHA.  He only played 32 games total though.  I think he will prove useful albeit in limited action.

[tonydelk]

Celtics have two good three point shooters off the bench

?? Brogdon, Hauser & Pritchard are all exceptional shooters. Svi is also good

Was talking more about specialist from 3 in Hauser and Svi

I'm a cynic, but I don't think Svi is a specialist.  I'd say he's average.

I am not sure what Svi is or can be.  I guess we will all find out.  I do think he is a good shooter, 42% from 3 last season between NYK an CHA.  He only played 32 games total though.  I think he will prove useful albeit in limited action.

Svi is another guy who can fill in and pay minutes when our guys need a breather or day off.  He's also Hauser protection.  There was a 2 month stretch last year that Hauser couldn't hit the broad side of a barn and was unplayable.  Svi is protection when Hauser gets into a slump.  I imagine that Hauser was give the explicit instruction to work on his body to improve explosion and handles.  Work on pump fakes and driving to the hoop.  Similar to what it seemed Grant worked on going into last year.  If he can improve in those areas he will be a part of the rotation and can hopefully contribute to the team how Strus contributed to Miami.  I think Strus is a better athlete but if Hauser can hit his shots and play a serviceable D he will get his 15-17 minutes per night.

[Surferdad]

Celtics have two good three point shooters off the bench

?? Brogdon, Hauser & Pritchard are all exceptional shooters. Svi is also good

Was talking more about specialist from 3 in Hauser and Svi

I'm a cynic, but I don't think Svi is a specialist.  I'd say he's average.

I am not sure what Svi is or can be.  I guess we will all find out.  I do think he is a good shooter, 42% from 3 last season between NYK an CHA.  He only played 32 games total though.  I think he will prove useful albeit in limited action.

Svi is another guy who can fill in and pay minutes when our guys need a breather or day off.  He's also Hauser protection.  There was a 2 month stretch last year that Hauser couldn't hit the broad side of a barn and was unplayable.  Svi is protection when Hauser gets into a slump.  I imagine that Hauser was give the explicit instruction to work on his body to improve explosion and handles.  Work on pump fakes and driving to the hoop. Similar to what it seemed Grant worked on going into last year.  If he can improve in those areas he will be a part of the rotation and can hopefully contribute to the team how Strus contributed to Miami.  I think Strus is a better athlete but if Hauser can hit his shots and play a serviceable D he will get his 15-17 minutes per night.

Which do you want? Improved explosion/handles or 3-and-D? Hauser will likely never have improved explosiveness and his handles may only improve marginally. He's just an average athlete. On the other hand, he already is a decent 3-and-D guy. So, he already 'is what he is' offensively. One of his best assets is his reasonable contract.

Rather than Svi being protection for Hauser slumps, I would posit that he makes Hauser expendable. The team has too many wings now.