Celts get Derrick White for Richardson, Langford, #1, 2028 pick swap

[bello_man09]

none of those guys are in white's Class i am sorry!!! their alight- White can be a Border line all star- dude is criminally underrated

[MarcusSmartFanClub]

It's unfortunate what this thread has turned into. If you were one of those people who thought White was legitimately awesome before the Miami series, then you were wrong. It was okay to be supportive of him and claim that he would come around, but he was a broken player for most of his time here.

Of course White won't continue to shoot as well as he has been recently, but this was the player we all thought we were getting. People have to knock it off with the outside the box score nonsense. White is on a 4yr/$73M contract. Simply put, he needs to contribute and he is now proving to be a very valuable player to this team - both within the box score and outside of it.

I am happy to have him on this team moving forward and hopefully he can continue to feel love from the fanbase and players, because it was clear he didn't feel that he was totally fitting in.

What games were you watching? His only downfall was his shooting. He was not broken. I don't know where you get this stuff. You're making stuff up to fit a narrative.

Also, how was it clear that he didn't fit in? He had more experience than anyone else with Udoka, and played with Smart, Tatum, and Brown.

[droopdog7]

Just curious, how many people are still sad about that 2028 pick swap?

Emphasis really should be on the pick swap.  People just SO irrational about it.  It's a lottery ticket that was simply the cost of doing business.  Some day it might just go poof and turn into nothing.  Even is the pick does convey, the chances that it turns into a star are not very high.

I mean, if the trade contributes to a title, nobody cares.

But, I'm against "lottery tickets" in trades.  Any deal that could result in you swapping the #2 pick for a non-lottery pick (see Nets, Brooklyn) needs to be worth the downside risk.  I think Brad probably could have gotten San Antonio to add some different protections if push came to shove.

Obviously it's hard to put a value on the swap itself.  Call it a lottery ticket, a wildcard or whatever.  My point is that people are not being rational about it.  It's being way over valued IMO.  Even if it does turn into the second pick, that guy could bust (and the 20th pick could turn into D White or either Williams).  There are just too many what if's to be worried about it as much as some are.

Also, maybe Brad/Ime valued D White THAT much?  I mean, it's easy to see why.  He is the quintessential modern basketball player.  Aside from scoring, he's really really good at most everything else.  He's oil for an engine.  Everything runs so much smoother with D White. 

As thinking that we could get White for less, there simply is no basis for that.  None whatsoever.  Push likely already came to shove and that was the deal.  Hey, sometimes you just have to pay retail.  Scared money don't make money.  All that stuff.

Ultimately, that all comes into the downside risk I mentioned, and how we eventually evaluate the trade.  It's a results driven league.

If White helps win us a title, I think you can end evaluation there.  If not, then you look at his contributions this season and over the next two years, versus whatever Richardson / Langford / the #1 / the swap turn into.  To me, Richardson, Langford and the #1 are all "good risk", because we had a reasonable idea about the relative upsides and downsides of those assets.  The only thing we don't really know is that pick swap, along with White's future performance.

If White is a solid piece her for three seasons or more, and the swap pick doesn't convey or it's only a minor move down, then it's going to be classified as a good trade in retrospect.

If White performs as he did in the regular season in Boston (good movement, good defense, poor shooting), but the Celtics are in the lottery and we drop down 10+ spots, it's probably going to be a bad trade.

I definitely understand the concept of a buyer's premium, and it's fair to conclude that we paid that to get a player we really needed.  I think it's equally fair for others to withhold judgment until we see where things end up, but who don't feel comfortable with the risk.

Regardless, though, the simplest thing is just to win the title, so that nobody can complain anymore.

I generally do not agree with the results aspect of the argument for any single move, but I agree that it makes a little more sense here.  That is, the result is the one thing that you can't control.  Sometimes the right move doesn't work.  But that doesn't change the fact that it was the right move.

In this case, the swap is a bit of a wild any sleep over it and I think the trade itself was fair.

[slamtheking]

I'll throw my 2 cents in here as someone who's been vocal about the trade being an overpay.

I'm thrilled he finally had a great shooting game.  I think it's pretty safe to say that everyone who questioned the trade is happy with last night's performance.  No one is rooting for this guy to fail.  White failing to perform doesn't help this team get to a title at all so thinking that's what people want who were against paying what we paid is foolish.  I've never considered him a stiff (a few others may have) but he was not performing up to what we needed from him nor to the value of what we paid.  He still hasn't -- yet.  Yes, last night he played better than we could have hoped from from the guys he replaced (not just Richardson and Romeo but Schroder as well since Schroder was moved because we now had White) but that's one game.  His performance in the Miami series was solid for a few games but not otherworldly as some have put out there.

I'm hoping that's what we see from him the rest of the finals but in no way am I expecting that.  For me, to justify that price we should be seeing 14-15 points a game, solid defense and about 4 assists per game.  That's what this team needs from the first guard off the bench.  To me, that's the level of play we should be getting every game for what we gave up.  Last night was great.  I really hope we see more of that level of performance.

[Roy H.]

I'll throw my 2 cents in here as someone who's been vocal about the trade being an overpay.

I'm thrilled he finally had a great shooting game.  I think it's pretty safe to say that everyone who questioned the trade is happy with last night's performance.  No one is rooting for this guy to fail.  White failing to perform doesn't help this team get to a title at all so thinking that's what people want who were against paying what we paid is foolish.  I've never considered him a stiff (a few others may have) but he was not performing up to what we needed from him nor to the value of what we paid.  He still hasn't -- yet.  Yes, last night he played better than we could have hoped from from the guys he replaced (not just Richardson and Romeo but Schroder as well since Schroder was moved because we now had White) but that's one game.  His performance in the Miami series was solid for a few games but not otherworldly as some have put out there.

I'm hoping that's what we see from him the rest of the finals but in no way am I expecting that.  For me, to justify that price we should be seeing 14-15 points a game, solid defense and about 4 assists per game.  That's what this team needs from the first guard off the bench.  To me, that's the level of play we should be getting every game for what we gave up.  Last night was great.  I really hope we see more of that level of performance.

I'm curious on your take.  Let's assume that white next reaches those heights; he's a 11 / 3.5 guy off the bench with spotty shooting and good defense.  Is the trade "worth it" if we win a title?

[droopdog7]

I'll throw my 2 cents in here as someone who's been vocal about the trade being an overpay.

I'm thrilled he finally had a great shooting game.  I think it's pretty safe to say that everyone who questioned the trade is happy with last night's performance.  No one is rooting for this guy to fail.  White failing to perform doesn't help this team get to a title at all so thinking that's what people want who were against paying what we paid is foolish.  I've never considered him a stiff (a few others may have) but he was not performing up to what we needed from him nor to the value of what we paid.  He still hasn't -- yet.  Yes, last night he played better than we could have hoped from from the guys he replaced (not just Richardson and Romeo but Schroder as well since Schroder was moved because we now had White) but that's one game.  His performance in the Miami series was solid for a few games but not otherworldly as some have put out there.

I'm hoping that's what we see from him the rest of the finals but in no way am I expecting that.  For me, to justify that price we should be seeing 14-15 points a game, solid defense and about 4 assists per game.  That's what this team needs from the first guard off the bench.  To me, that's the level of play we should be getting every game for what we gave up.  Last night was great.  I really hope we see more of that level of performance.

The disconnect seems to be in how we rate what White actually is versus what the value is of what we gave up.  I don't think we gave up anything of real value.  Or should I say, anything that can't be easily replaced.  And White simply is a different level of player as a J Rich, Romeo, and probably the picks too.  Those guys are strictly role players that only do role player things if they have stars taking all the attention.  White is so much more than that it's not even funny.

[slamtheking]

I'll throw my 2 cents in here as someone who's been vocal about the trade being an overpay.

I'm thrilled he finally had a great shooting game.  I think it's pretty safe to say that everyone who questioned the trade is happy with last night's performance.  No one is rooting for this guy to fail.  White failing to perform doesn't help this team get to a title at all so thinking that's what people want who were against paying what we paid is foolish.  I've never considered him a stiff (a few others may have) but he was not performing up to what we needed from him nor to the value of what we paid.  He still hasn't -- yet.  Yes, last night he played better than we could have hoped from from the guys he replaced (not just Richardson and Romeo but Schroder as well since Schroder was moved because we now had White) but that's one game.  His performance in the Miami series was solid for a few games but not otherworldly as some have put out there.

I'm hoping that's what we see from him the rest of the finals but in no way am I expecting that.  For me, to justify that price we should be seeing 14-15 points a game, solid defense and about 4 assists per game.  That's what this team needs from the first guard off the bench.  To me, that's the level of play we should be getting every game for what we gave up.  Last night was great.  I really hope we see more of that level of performance.

I'm curious on your take.  Let's assume that white next reaches those heights; he's a 11 / 3.5 guy off the bench with spotty shooting and good defense.  Is the trade "worth it" if we win a title?

confused by what you asked.  if he "reaches those heights" he'd be hitting the levels I'm expecting which is not the numbers you've posted.  If he hits my marks, yes, I think that the trade was a reasonable cost.  if he hits the level you provided and has spotty shooting, I'll probably still think it's an overpay.  if he plays every finals game like he did yesterday, I'll think the trade was worth the risk because he played as well as he could be asked to regardless of whether we win or lose.

[Roy H.]

I'll throw my 2 cents in here as someone who's been vocal about the trade being an overpay.

I'm thrilled he finally had a great shooting game.  I think it's pretty safe to say that everyone who questioned the trade is happy with last night's performance.  No one is rooting for this guy to fail.  White failing to perform doesn't help this team get to a title at all so thinking that's what people want who were against paying what we paid is foolish.  I've never considered him a stiff (a few others may have) but he was not performing up to what we needed from him nor to the value of what we paid.  He still hasn't -- yet.  Yes, last night he played better than we could have hoped from from the guys he replaced (not just Richardson and Romeo but Schroder as well since Schroder was moved because we now had White) but that's one game.  His performance in the Miami series was solid for a few games but not otherworldly as some have put out there.

I'm hoping that's what we see from him the rest of the finals but in no way am I expecting that.  For me, to justify that price we should be seeing 14-15 points a game, solid defense and about 4 assists per game.  That's what this team needs from the first guard off the bench.  To me, that's the level of play we should be getting every game for what we gave up.  Last night was great.  I really hope we see more of that level of performance.

I'm curious on your take.  Let's assume that white next reaches those heights; he's a 11 / 3.5 guy off the bench with spotty shooting and good defense.  Is the trade "worth it" if we win a title?

confused by what you asked.  if he "reaches those heights" he'd be hitting the levels I'm expecting which is not the numbers you've posted.  If he hits my marks, yes, I think that the trade was a reasonable cost.  if he hits the level you provided and has spotty shooting, I'll probably still think it's an overpay.  if he plays every finals game like he did yesterday, I'll think the trade was worth the risk because he played as well as he could be asked to regardless of whether we win or lose.

So, if he doesn't reach your numbers, and he doesn't shoot well for the rest of the Finals, you're not onboard, even if we bring home the title?

[slamtheking]

I'll throw my 2 cents in here as someone who's been vocal about the trade being an overpay.

I'm thrilled he finally had a great shooting game.  I think it's pretty safe to say that everyone who questioned the trade is happy with last night's performance.  No one is rooting for this guy to fail.  White failing to perform doesn't help this team get to a title at all so thinking that's what people want who were against paying what we paid is foolish.  I've never considered him a stiff (a few others may have) but he was not performing up to what we needed from him nor to the value of what we paid.  He still hasn't -- yet.  Yes, last night he played better than we could have hoped from from the guys he replaced (not just Richardson and Romeo but Schroder as well since Schroder was moved because we now had White) but that's one game.  His performance in the Miami series was solid for a few games but not otherworldly as some have put out there.

I'm hoping that's what we see from him the rest of the finals but in no way am I expecting that.  For me, to justify that price we should be seeing 14-15 points a game, solid defense and about 4 assists per game.  That's what this team needs from the first guard off the bench.  To me, that's the level of play we should be getting every game for what we gave up.  Last night was great.  I really hope we see more of that level of performance.

The disconnect seems to be in how we rate what White actually is versus what the value is of what we gave up.  I don't think we gave up anything of real value.  Or should I say, anything that can't be easily replaced.  And White simply is a different level of player as a J Rich, Romeo, and probably the picks too.  Those guys are strictly role players that only do role player things if they have stars taking all the attention.  White is so much more than that it's not even funny.

that's strictly your opinion and you're welcome to it.  I disagree.  until halfway through the Miami series, and certainly in the regular season, he didn't establish himself as a better player than Richardson when Richardson was here.  in fact, as the season went on his performances were becoming even more of a concern. 

You're talking like White is a high-level starter which he is not.  Richardson is a solid role player.  Schroder for all his faults is a rotation-quality player that can carry an offense on some nights.  Romeo, though constantly injured, could defend and his offense was coming around.  White was brought in to replace all of them so the expectation is he needs to produce what they were producing and he hasn't.  very plain and simple.  Last night was great.  Thrilled to see him succeed last night and want to see him succeed every night but in no way has he been "so much more than that it's not even funny" because I found nothing humorous about his playing this season.

[slamtheking]

I'll throw my 2 cents in here as someone who's been vocal about the trade being an overpay.

I'm thrilled he finally had a great shooting game.  I think it's pretty safe to say that everyone who questioned the trade is happy with last night's performance.  No one is rooting for this guy to fail.  White failing to perform doesn't help this team get to a title at all so thinking that's what people want who were against paying what we paid is foolish.  I've never considered him a stiff (a few others may have) but he was not performing up to what we needed from him nor to the value of what we paid.  He still hasn't -- yet.  Yes, last night he played better than we could have hoped from from the guys he replaced (not just Richardson and Romeo but Schroder as well since Schroder was moved because we now had White) but that's one game.  His performance in the Miami series was solid for a few games but not otherworldly as some have put out there.

I'm hoping that's what we see from him the rest of the finals but in no way am I expecting that.  For me, to justify that price we should be seeing 14-15 points a game, solid defense and about 4 assists per game.  That's what this team needs from the first guard off the bench.  To me, that's the level of play we should be getting every game for what we gave up.  Last night was great.  I really hope we see more of that level of performance.

I'm curious on your take.  Let's assume that white next reaches those heights; he's a 11 / 3.5 guy off the bench with spotty shooting and good defense.  Is the trade "worth it" if we win a title?

confused by what you asked.  if he "reaches those heights" he'd be hitting the levels I'm expecting which is not the numbers you've posted.  If he hits my marks, yes, I think that the trade was a reasonable cost.  if he hits the level you provided and has spotty shooting, I'll probably still think it's an overpay.  if he plays every finals game like he did yesterday, I'll think the trade was worth the risk because he played as well as he could be asked to regardless of whether we win or lose.

So, if he doesn't reach your numbers, and he doesn't shoot well for the rest of the Finals, you're not onboard, even if we bring home the title?

if that's what happens, it means the rest of the team had to do the work to win so no, I'd still think it was an overpay.  again. not saying he's a stiff or not a rotation-quality player but he's not producing at the level that justifies that deal.  He wasn't brought in for just Richardson, Romeo, a 1st and a swap but also used as the principal step in trading Schroder as well.  that's a high bar and in your hypothetical he's not producing.   smart playmaking and good D are terrific and all but players that only offer that can be had for less than what we paid.

[Roy H.]

I'll throw my 2 cents in here as someone who's been vocal about the trade being an overpay.

I'm thrilled he finally had a great shooting game.  I think it's pretty safe to say that everyone who questioned the trade is happy with last night's performance.  No one is rooting for this guy to fail.  White failing to perform doesn't help this team get to a title at all so thinking that's what people want who were against paying what we paid is foolish.  I've never considered him a stiff (a few others may have) but he was not performing up to what we needed from him nor to the value of what we paid.  He still hasn't -- yet.  Yes, last night he played better than we could have hoped from from the guys he replaced (not just Richardson and Romeo but Schroder as well since Schroder was moved because we now had White) but that's one game.  His performance in the Miami series was solid for a few games but not otherworldly as some have put out there.

I'm hoping that's what we see from him the rest of the finals but in no way am I expecting that.  For me, to justify that price we should be seeing 14-15 points a game, solid defense and about 4 assists per game.  That's what this team needs from the first guard off the bench.  To me, that's the level of play we should be getting every game for what we gave up.  Last night was great.  I really hope we see more of that level of performance.

I'm curious on your take.  Let's assume that white next reaches those heights; he's a 11 / 3.5 guy off the bench with spotty shooting and good defense.  Is the trade "worth it" if we win a title?

confused by what you asked.  if he "reaches those heights" he'd be hitting the levels I'm expecting which is not the numbers you've posted.  If he hits my marks, yes, I think that the trade was a reasonable cost.  if he hits the level you provided and has spotty shooting, I'll probably still think it's an overpay.  if he plays every finals game like he did yesterday, I'll think the trade was worth the risk because he played as well as he could be asked to regardless of whether we win or lose.

So, if he doesn't reach your numbers, and he doesn't shoot well for the rest of the Finals, you're not onboard, even if we bring home the title?

if that's what happens, it means the rest of the team had to do the work to win so no, I'd still think it was an overpay.  again. not saying he's a stiff or not a rotation-quality player but he's not producing at the level that justifies that deal.  He wasn't brought in for just Richardson, Romeo, a 1st and a swap but also used as the principal step in trading Schroder as well.  that's a high bar and in your hypothetical he's not producing.   smart playmaking and good D are terrific and all but players that only offer that can be had for less than what we paid.

Did you think Schroder was effective here?  I did not. 

[Roy H.]

Steve Bulpett: Derrick White was averaging 6.7 points on 34.7 pct shooting (23.7 from 3) in 12 playoff games before missing one for the birth of his son. In the 6 games since, he’s averaging 13.0 points on 45.6/42.9 pct shooting. As far as Hendrix White is concerned, his dad’s a frickin’ star.

[droopdog7]

I'll throw my 2 cents in here as someone who's been vocal about the trade being an overpay.

I'm thrilled he finally had a great shooting game.  I think it's pretty safe to say that everyone who questioned the trade is happy with last night's performance.  No one is rooting for this guy to fail.  White failing to perform doesn't help this team get to a title at all so thinking that's what people want who were against paying what we paid is foolish.  I've never considered him a stiff (a few others may have) but he was not performing up to what we needed from him nor to the value of what we paid.  He still hasn't -- yet.  Yes, last night he played better than we could have hoped from from the guys he replaced (not just Richardson and Romeo but Schroder as well since Schroder was moved because we now had White) but that's one game.  His performance in the Miami series was solid for a few games but not otherworldly as some have put out there.

I'm hoping that's what we see from him the rest of the finals but in no way am I expecting that.  For me, to justify that price we should be seeing 14-15 points a game, solid defense and about 4 assists per game.  That's what this team needs from the first guard off the bench.  To me, that's the level of play we should be getting every game for what we gave up.  Last night was great.  I really hope we see more of that level of performance.

The disconnect seems to be in how we rate what White actually is versus what the value is of what we gave up.  I don't think we gave up anything of real value.  Or should I say, anything that can't be easily replaced.  And White simply is a different level of player as a J Rich, Romeo, and probably the picks too.  Those guys are strictly role players that only do role player things if they have stars taking all the attention.  White is so much more than that it's not even funny.

that's strictly your opinion and you're welcome to it.  I disagree. until halfway through the Miami series, and certainly in the regular season, he didn't establish himself as a better player than Richardson when Richardson was here.  in fact, as the season went on his performances were becoming even more of a concern. 

You're talking like White is a high-level starter which he is not.  Richardson is a solid role player.  Schroder for all his faults is a rotation-quality player that can carry an offense on some nights.  Romeo, though constantly injured, could defend and his offense was coming around.  White was brought in to replace all of them so the expectation is he needs to produce what they were producing and he hasn't.  very plain and simple.  Last night was great.  Thrilled to see him succeed last night and want to see him succeed every night but in no way has he been "so much more than that it's not even funny" because I found nothing humorous about his playing this season.

Here is the other disconnect.  I'm talking about what White IS versus just performance and numbers.  Hopefully we can all agree that White has been acclimating to a new team and a new role during his time here.  He was not primarily a PG and he was a starter.  So I didn't really give a hoot about his numbers.  I am evaluating what he does on the both ends of the court for the things he can control.  FYI, the ball going in the basket is not one of the things you can control.  Now LONG TERM you do show what you are.  If you shoot 25% from 3 over years, then yeah, you can't shoot.  Stop shooting. 

As for replacing the production of three guys, I assume you don't mean total counting stats.  I will also ignore that DS was traded for Theis (and PP more or less).  Despite the counting stats, we all know DS could be as much of a detriment as a positive.

As for Romeo and Rich, I will sum it up this way.  As I said before, those guys thrive when attention is paid to stars.  D White on the other hand can actually make our stars and other role players better.  That's a huge difference.

And let's not get into defense where White has proven to be absolutely elite.

[jambr380]

It's unfortunate what this thread has turned into. If you were one of those people who thought White was legitimately awesome before the Miami series, then you were wrong. It was okay to be supportive of him and claim that he would come around, but he was a broken player for most of his time here.

Of course White won't continue to shoot as well as he has been recently, but this was the player we all thought we were getting. People have to knock it off with the outside the box score nonsense. White is on a 4yr/$73M contract. Simply put, he needs to contribute and he is now proving to be a very valuable player to this team - both within the box score and outside of it.

I am happy to have him on this team moving forward and hopefully he can continue to feel love from the fanbase and players, because it was clear he didn't feel that he was totally fitting in.

What games were you watching? His only downfall was his shooting. He was not broken. I don't know where you get this stuff. You're making stuff up to fit a narrative.

Also, how was it clear that he didn't fit in? He had more experience than anyone else with Udoka, and played with Smart, Tatum, and Brown.

As far as being broken, a lot of this was related to his shot, but it was also his approach to the game. Which is also what I meant by 'fitting in'.

While many saw his ball-movement as a positive, I saw it as passive and thought he was almost playing hot potato with it. And he said as much after his atrocious game 3 vs Miami. That was an energy shifting moment and he has basically been excellent ever since he talked about needing to be more aggressive. I am super-happy he was able to change his mentality and become so much more engaged. This was the Derrick White we were hoping we were getting.

[nickagneta]

I'll throw my 2 cents in here as someone who's been vocal about the trade being an overpay.

I'm thrilled he finally had a great shooting game.  I think it's pretty safe to say that everyone who questioned the trade is happy with last night's performance.  No one is rooting for this guy to fail.  White failing to perform doesn't help this team get to a title at all so thinking that's what people want who were against paying what we paid is foolish.  I've never considered him a stiff (a few others may have) but he was not performing up to what we needed from him nor to the value of what we paid.  He still hasn't -- yet.  Yes, last night he played better than we could have hoped from from the guys he replaced (not just Richardson and Romeo but Schroder as well since Schroder was moved because we now had White) but that's one game.  His performance in the Miami series was solid for a few games but not otherworldly as some have put out there.

I'm hoping that's what we see from him the rest of the finals but in no way am I expecting that.  For me, to justify that price we should be seeing 14-15 points a game, solid defense and about 4 assists per game.  That's what this team needs from the first guard off the bench.  To me, that's the level of play we should be getting every game for what we gave up.  Last night was great.  I really hope we see more of that level of performance.

The disconnect seems to be in how we rate what White actually is versus what the value is of what we gave up.  I don't think we gave up anything of real value.  Or should I say, anything that can't be easily replaced.  And White simply is a different level of player as a J Rich, Romeo, and probably the picks too.  Those guys are strictly role players that only do role player things if they have stars taking all the attention.  White is so much more than that it's not even funny.

that's strictly your opinion and you're welcome to it.  I disagree.  until halfway through the Miami series, and certainly in the regular season, he didn't establish himself as a better player than Richardson when Richardson was here.  in fact, as the season went on his performances were becoming even more of a concern. 

You're talking like White is a high-level starter which he is not.  Richardson is a solid role player.  Schroder for all his faults is a rotation-quality player that can carry an offense on some nights.  Romeo, though constantly injured, could defend and his offense was coming around.  White was brought in to replace all of them so the expectation is he needs to produce what they were producing and he hasn't.  very plain and simple.  Last night was great.  Thrilled to see him succeed last night and want to see him succeed every night but in no way has he been "so much more than that it's not even funny" because I found nothing humorous about his playing this season.

Your prob slam is you are basing everything in your evaluation of White on his shooting vs Richardson's shooting. This year was an aberation for both White and Richardson. Richardson is nowhere near a 41.5% three point shooter, just as White isn't a sub 30% three point shooter.

Let's not forget the guy was traded to a new team and had to move his very pregnant wife to a new city where she had to find new doctors and buy a new home to live in. That stuff can effect performance. Is it any wonder the best ball he has played here is after the birth of his son?

And you discount everything else White does better. He makes quick decisions versus Josh being a ball stopper. White is a much better passer and driver of the ball. White is a better and more versatile defender. Derrick scores more than Richardson, rebounds better than Richardson. He is better in every way.

Next year I think White returns to his usual 13/4/5 with 44/35/85 numbers after he helps win a title this year. If that happens there is little question Boston got the better of the deal.

This just reminds me of the Udoka evaluations. First few months everyone wanted to hang him. Give him proper time to get adjusted, Ime is now looked at as an amazing coach

Gotta let this all play out over a normal long term and stop making instant evals then sticking with those as White slowly gets adjusted and refinds his shot.

Lastly, let's not forget that pick swap has a more than 50% chance of being nothing and could be moved well ahead of 2028 making the whole point moot.