Celts get Derrick White for Richardson, Langford, #1, 2028 pick swap

[slamtheking]

Starting to feel like White is incapable of having back to back good games. He looked good on Friday, thought he was turning the corner and then lays an absolute egg today.  Played 18 mins and had 3pts, 2reb, 1ast while shooting 1-10 from the field , 1-6 from 3pt. Why is he shooting so much? He also got torched by Holiday. Pritchard played 17 mins and had 14pts, 3ast, 5rebs while shooting 5-7 from the field and 4-6 from 3pt.

Games 3-6 were all good from White.

So playing 30mins and giving the C’s 9pts, 2ast, 5rebs while shooting 3-9 from the field and 1-5 from 3pt is a good game? Think we have very different definitions of what a good game is.

In the Bucks series, White played 25.6mpg and averaged 8pts, 3.7rebs, 2.6ast while shooting 39% from the field, 36% from 3pt, and 53% from the FT line. I thought his defense was good, not great. I’m hoping he looks better next year, but at this point I’m still on the fence about the trade.

today was definitely not what I would consider a good game from him

[Goldstar88]

Starting to feel like White is incapable of having back to back good games. He looked good on Friday, thought he was turning the corner and then lays an absolute egg today.  Played 18 mins and had 3pts, 2reb, 1ast while shooting 1-10 from the field , 1-6 from 3pt. Why is he shooting so much? He also got torched by Holiday. Pritchard played 17 mins and had 14pts, 3ast, 5rebs while shooting 5-7 from the field and 4-6 from 3pt.

Games 3-6 were all good from White.

So playing 30mins and giving the C’s 9pts, 2ast, 5rebs while shooting 3-9 from the field and 1-5 from 3pt is a good game? Think we have very different definitions of what a good game is.

In the Bucks series, White played 25.6mpg and averaged 8pts, 3.7rebs, 2.6ast while shooting 39% from the field, 36% from 3pt, and 53% from the FT line. I thought his defense was good, not great. I’m hoping he looks better next year, but at this point I’m still very much on the fence about the trade.

today was definitely not what I would consider a good game from him

[gouki88]

Starting to feel like White is incapable of having back to back good games. He looked good on Friday, thought he was turning the corner and then lays an absolute egg today.  Played 18 mins and had 3pts, 2reb, 1ast while shooting 1-10 from the field , 1-6 from 3pt. Why is he shooting so much? He also got torched by Holiday. Pritchard played 17 mins and had 14pts, 3ast, 5rebs while shooting 5-7 from the field and 4-6 from 3pt.

Games 3-6 were all good from White.

So playing 30mins and giving the C’s 9pts, 2ast, 5rebs while shooting 3-9 from the field and 1-5 from 3pt is a good game? Think we have very different definitions of what a good game is.

In the Bucks series, White played 25.6mpg and averaged 8pts, 3.7rebs, 2.6ast while shooting 39% from the field, 36% from 3pt, and 53% from the FT line. I thought his defense was good, not great. I’m hoping he looks better next year, but at this point I’m still on the fence about the trade.

If you're going to get hung up on raw box score lines for White then your analysis of him will be shallow.

[todd_days_41]

Starting to feel like White is incapable of having back to back good games. He looked good on Friday, thought he was turning the corner and then lays an absolute egg today.  Played 18 mins and had 3pts, 2reb, 1ast while shooting 1-10 from the field , 1-6 from 3pt. Why is he shooting so much? He also got torched by Holiday. Pritchard played 17 mins and had 14pts, 3ast, 5rebs while shooting 5-7 from the field and 4-6 from 3pt.

Games 3-6 were all good from White.

So playing 30mins and giving the C’s 9pts, 2ast, 5rebs while shooting 3-9 from the field and 1-5 from 3pt is a good game? Think we have very different definitions of what a good game is.

In the Bucks series, White played 25.6mpg and averaged 8pts, 3.7rebs, 2.6ast while shooting 39% from the field, 36% from 3pt, and 53% from the FT line. I thought his defense was good, not great. I’m hoping he looks better next year, but at this point I’m still on the fence about the trade.

White is overpaid. Well overpaid. He’s really the only overpaid player on the Cs, when you factor why the Cs traded for Al’s contract.

[Goldstar88]

Starting to feel like White is incapable of having back to back good games. He looked good on Friday, thought he was turning the corner and then lays an absolute egg today.  Played 18 mins and had 3pts, 2reb, 1ast while shooting 1-10 from the field , 1-6 from 3pt. Why is he shooting so much? He also got torched by Holiday. Pritchard played 17 mins and had 14pts, 3ast, 5rebs while shooting 5-7 from the field and 4-6 from 3pt.

Games 3-6 were all good from White.

So playing 30mins and giving the C’s 9pts, 2ast, 5rebs while shooting 3-9 from the field and 1-5 from 3pt is a good game? Think we have very different definitions of what a good game is.

In the Bucks series, White played 25.6mpg and averaged 8pts, 3.7rebs, 2.6ast while shooting 39% from the field, 36% from 3pt, and 53% from the FT line. I thought his defense was good, not great. I’m hoping he looks better next year, but at this point I’m still on the fence about the trade.

If you're going to get hung up on raw box score lines for White then your analysis of him will be shallow.

Am I supposed to be accounting for intangibles like being good teammate/locker room guy? Yeah, that’s great and all, but I’m going to focus on what happens on the court.

[gouki88]

Starting to feel like White is incapable of having back to back good games. He looked good on Friday, thought he was turning the corner and then lays an absolute egg today.  Played 18 mins and had 3pts, 2reb, 1ast while shooting 1-10 from the field , 1-6 from 3pt. Why is he shooting so much? He also got torched by Holiday. Pritchard played 17 mins and had 14pts, 3ast, 5rebs while shooting 5-7 from the field and 4-6 from 3pt.

Games 3-6 were all good from White.

So playing 30mins and giving the C’s 9pts, 2ast, 5rebs while shooting 3-9 from the field and 1-5 from 3pt is a good game? Think we have very different definitions of what a good game is.

In the Bucks series, White played 25.6mpg and averaged 8pts, 3.7rebs, 2.6ast while shooting 39% from the field, 36% from 3pt, and 53% from the FT line. I thought his defense was good, not great. I’m hoping he looks better next year, but at this point I’m still on the fence about the trade.

If you're going to get hung up on raw box score lines for White then your analysis of him will be shallow.

Am I supposed to be accounting for intangibles like being good teammate/locker room guy? Yeah, that’s great and all, but I’m going to focus on what happens on the court.

Nope. That is not what I was saying.

[colincb]

Starting to feel like White is incapable of having back to back good games. He looked good on Friday, thought he was turning the corner and then lays an absolute egg today.  Played 18 mins and had 3pts, 2reb, 1ast while shooting 1-10 from the field , 1-6 from 3pt. Why is he shooting so much? He also got torched by Holiday. Pritchard played 17 mins and had 14pts, 3ast, 5rebs while shooting 5-7 from the field and 4-6 from 3pt.

Games 3-6 were all good from White.

So playing 30mins and giving the C’s 9pts, 2ast, 5rebs while shooting 3-9 from the field and 1-5 from 3pt is a good game? Think we have very different definitions of what a good game is.

In the Bucks series, White played 25.6mpg and averaged 8pts, 3.7rebs, 2.6ast while shooting 39% from the field, 36% from 3pt, and 53% from the FT line. I thought his defense was good, not great. I’m hoping he looks better next year, but at this point I’m still on the fence about the trade.

If you're going to get hung up on raw box score lines for White then your analysis of him will be shallow.

Am I supposed to be accounting for intangibles like being good teammate/locker room guy? Yeah, that’s great and all, but I’m going to focus on what happens on the court.

Look at advanced stats. RAPTOR for example has him as the 4th best defensive player left in the playoffs. White has consistently had excellent ratings in a number of these advanced +/- stats over the years, particularly on defense. They're the same type of stats that tell you that Smart and Horford are much better players than their boxscore stats.

[Kernewek]

I already gave some options for advanced stats in this thread earlier.

Some posters just aren’t amenable to data that doesn’t fit their narratives.

[celticsclay]

Starting to feel like White is incapable of having back to back good games. He looked good on Friday, thought he was turning the corner and then lays an absolute egg today.  Played 18 mins and had 3pts, 2reb, 1ast while shooting 1-10 from the field , 1-6 from 3pt. Why is he shooting so much? He also got torched by Holiday. Pritchard played 17 mins and had 14pts, 3ast, 5rebs while shooting 5-7 from the field and 4-6 from 3pt.

Games 3-6 were all good from White.

So playing 30mins and giving the C’s 9pts, 2ast, 5rebs while shooting 3-9 from the field and 1-5 from 3pt is a good game? Think we have very different definitions of what a good game is.

In the Bucks series, White played 25.6mpg and averaged 8pts, 3.7rebs, 2.6ast while shooting 39% from the field, 36% from 3pt, and 53% from the FT line. I thought his defense was good, not great. I’m hoping he looks better next year, but at this point I’m still on the fence about the trade.

If you're going to get hung up on raw box score lines for White then your analysis of him will be shallow.

Am I supposed to be accounting for intangibles like being good teammate/locker room guy? Yeah, that’s great and all, but I’m going to focus on what happens on the court.

Nope. That is not what I was saying.

Your patience amazes me Gouki.

[Phantom255x]

Paging White to please show up.

2/18 shooting and 6 points combined the last three games (dating back to Game 7 against MIL). I know he’s not a traditional scorer but we still need way more from him especially with Smart hobbled.

Also wish he could be a bit more aggressive out there. He looks so passive and idk if that’s just by design or if he’s lost some confidence

[jambr380]

Paging White to please show up.

2/18 shooting and 6 points combined the last three games (dating back to Game 7 against MIL). I know he’s not a traditional scorer but we still need way more from him especially with Smart hobbled.

Also wish he could be a bit more aggressive out there. He looks so passive and idk if that’s just by design or if he’s lost some confidence

Nope, apparently according to RAPTOR, White is one of the best players in the league. So don't you dare say anything that might suggest otherwise 

On a more serious note, yeah, it sure would be awesome if White could give us literally anything as far as scoring and playing with purpose on the offensive side of the ball. And I know he is supposed to be a great defender, but I've seen him get blown by a few too many times. Pritchard is obviously the better option at this point, but with Smart hobbled, White is going to once again have an opportunity. Let's hope he can take advantage of it. And at least by the sounds of his comments, he understands that he needs to be more 'aggressive'.

[Big333223]

I'm a little confused about why he only played 14 minutes on Saturday. Was he tired from new dad stuff? Because his decisions making with the ball is exactly what was needed while everyone else was throwing it away and driving into traffic.

[Goldstar88]

I'm a little confused about why he only played 14 minutes on Saturday. Was he tired from new dad stuff? Because his decisions making with the ball is exactly what was needed while everyone else was throwing it away and driving into traffic.

He’s been god awful this series. Hopefully he turns it around tonight, but his play has been really disappointing.

[celticsclay]

I'm a little confused about why he only played 14 minutes on Saturday. Was he tired from new dad stuff? Because his decisions making with the ball is exactly what was needed while everyone else was throwing it away and driving into traffic.

He’s been god awful this series. Hopefully he turns it around tonight, but his play has been really disappointing.

I feel like he will have a good game tonight for whatever reason. He probably didn’t get much sleep the days leading up to game 3. Should be on a more normal schedule now.

[celts55]

I'm a little confused about why he only played 14 minutes on Saturday. Was he tired from new dad stuff? Because his decisions making with the ball is exactly what was needed while everyone else was throwing it away and driving into traffic.

I’m more confused as to why Prichard only played 13. Plays with great energy, 4 assists, hit his only shot, works hard on D and on the boards. Also, excellent ball handler who didn’t turn the ball over.

I may be wrong, but I believe the Celtics would have finished off that comeback if Tatum didn’t come back and Payton stayed in the game. Obviously can’t prove it, but Tatum didn’t do anything to help.