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Quote from: gouki88 on August 02, 2021, 11:03:57 AMQuote from: Celtics2021 on August 02, 2021, 09:43:46 AMI think Robb’s math is slightly off. Since the Celtics would be a taxpayer team after such a trade as he describes, they could only take back 125% of Thompson’s salary, not his salary plus $5 million, so $12.25 million. This puts us in Nance and Kyle Anderson territory, but not most of the other players he named (I can’t see Bagley being someone who Stevens would be interested in given his concerns about consistent effort and maturity).That said, salary filler like Carsen Edwards would get us the rest of the way there for the guys on his list.Thad Young or Malik Beasley would be awesome from a talent perspective. Dunno what state Beasley's personal life is in though...I'd be interested in TJ Warren, myself. Would probably need to send a different player than Edwards to make that deal work for Indiana, however.
Quote from: Celtics2021 on August 02, 2021, 09:43:46 AMI think Robb’s math is slightly off. Since the Celtics would be a taxpayer team after such a trade as he describes, they could only take back 125% of Thompson’s salary, not his salary plus $5 million, so $12.25 million. This puts us in Nance and Kyle Anderson territory, but not most of the other players he named (I can’t see Bagley being someone who Stevens would be interested in given his concerns about consistent effort and maturity).That said, salary filler like Carsen Edwards would get us the rest of the way there for the guys on his list.Thad Young or Malik Beasley would be awesome from a talent perspective. Dunno what state Beasley's personal life is in though...
I think Robb’s math is slightly off. Since the Celtics would be a taxpayer team after such a trade as he describes, they could only take back 125% of Thompson’s salary, not his salary plus $5 million, so $12.25 million. This puts us in Nance and Kyle Anderson territory, but not most of the other players he named (I can’t see Bagley being someone who Stevens would be interested in given his concerns about consistent effort and maturity).That said, salary filler like Carsen Edwards would get us the rest of the way there for the guys on his list.
Quote from: jpotter33 on August 02, 2021, 03:41:25 PMI wonder if there’s any way to squeeze either Hield or Barnes out of Sacramento as part of this deal. I think both would fit in different ways here - Hield as a sharp-shooting 2 if we go smaller or Barnes as our versatile 3/4 if we go bigger.I realize this would impact our ability to have max space next year, but I’m growing more and more concerned with that approach given more free agents next year are coming off the board and Beal’s status questionable.Including Cleveland/Nance somehow would also be an attractive additional option.I'm wondering if Collins is who we would getting. Atl doens't seem to really want him, and might be a reason we aren't aggressive with Fournier. Seen reports of 4 for 80 mil, not sure how much that effects next summer. Plus the rumor of Smart possibly heading out and the trade not going trough, it would seem that they are waiting to be able to S&T some one. Or Collins heading to SAC and we're getting other pieces.
I wonder if there’s any way to squeeze either Hield or Barnes out of Sacramento as part of this deal. I think both would fit in different ways here - Hield as a sharp-shooting 2 if we go smaller or Barnes as our versatile 3/4 if we go bigger.I realize this would impact our ability to have max space next year, but I’m growing more and more concerned with that approach given more free agents next year are coming off the board and Beal’s status questionable.Including Cleveland/Nance somehow would also be an attractive additional option.
Quote from: Sketch5 on August 02, 2021, 05:42:00 PMQuote from: jpotter33 on August 02, 2021, 03:41:25 PMI wonder if there’s any way to squeeze either Hield or Barnes out of Sacramento as part of this deal. I think both would fit in different ways here - Hield as a sharp-shooting 2 if we go smaller or Barnes as our versatile 3/4 if we go bigger.I realize this would impact our ability to have max space next year, but I’m growing more and more concerned with that approach given more free agents next year are coming off the board and Beal’s status questionable.Including Cleveland/Nance somehow would also be an attractive additional option.I'm wondering if Collins is who we would getting. Atl doens't seem to really want him, and might be a reason we aren't aggressive with Fournier. Seen reports of 4 for 80 mil, not sure how much that effects next summer. Plus the rumor of Smart possibly heading out and the trade not going trough, it would seem that they are waiting to be able to S&T some one. Or Collins heading to SAC and we're getting other pieces.If C’s somehow squeeze Collins out of this deal, I will be ecstatic. Might have to give up Timelord though.
Quote from: Surferdad on August 02, 2021, 07:19:52 PMQuote from: Sketch5 on August 02, 2021, 05:42:00 PMQuote from: jpotter33 on August 02, 2021, 03:41:25 PMI wonder if there’s any way to squeeze either Hield or Barnes out of Sacramento as part of this deal. I think both would fit in different ways here - Hield as a sharp-shooting 2 if we go smaller or Barnes as our versatile 3/4 if we go bigger.I realize this would impact our ability to have max space next year, but I’m growing more and more concerned with that approach given more free agents next year are coming off the board and Beal’s status questionable.Including Cleveland/Nance somehow would also be an attractive additional option.I'm wondering if Collins is who we would getting. Atl doens't seem to really want him, and might be a reason we aren't aggressive with Fournier. Seen reports of 4 for 80 mil, not sure how much that effects next summer. Plus the rumor of Smart possibly heading out and the trade not going trough, it would seem that they are waiting to be able to S&T some one. Or Collins heading to SAC and we're getting other pieces.If C’s somehow squeeze Collins out of this deal, I will be ecstatic. Might have to give up Timelord though.I think you should give up Timelord since he's been injury prone throughout his tenure.
From what I read, it can't happen until the 6th now, that's why there has been no movement. I still believe it gets done.
This trade better bring in some worthy pieces. We’re being left out in the free agent market.
Quote from: radiohead on August 03, 2021, 12:23:55 PMThis trade better bring in some worthy pieces. We’re being left out in the free agent market.I'd have zero expectations or you will be let down. I don't think much will happen outside of players going elsewhere vs Boston. It's transparent that the team does not want to add in any long term salary unless its for a star. I don't see anyone of major value coming back to the C's.
Quote from: tonydelk on August 03, 2021, 12:40:57 PMQuote from: radiohead on August 03, 2021, 12:23:55 PMThis trade better bring in some worthy pieces. We’re being left out in the free agent market.I'd have zero expectations or you will be let down. I don't think much will happen outside of players going elsewhere vs Boston. It's transparent that the team does not want to add in any long term salary unless its for a star. I don't see anyone of major value coming back to the C's.Again, follow a lot of pundits on Twitter, one saying the C's are trying to expand to get Bagley. That would be intriguing....
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