2019 Historical Draft Thread(TIME TO REVEAL THE WINNER!!!)

[nickagneta]

With Rick Barry getting stolen for me, I have to go a different direction. Luckily, this guy was on the top half of my board and still happy to get him.

12x All-Star
6x All NBA
2x All NBA Defensive Team
2x Rebounding league leader
NBA Champion

With the 12th pick in the 4th round, the Detroit Pistons are happy to select a guy who would keep our defensive identity honest, while adding some scoring punch to the team.

We select The Big E, Elvin Hayes.

For your team, this was a much better pick than Rick Barry. Love this pick for your team. Hayes was a terror down low and was a fantastic defender of men much bigger than him, much like Cowens. He can switch between PF and C.

You should send CFF a thank you note for taking Rick Barry forcing you to take Hayes. 😂😂😂

Maybe I should.

Yeah. Another good thing about him is his shooting. Yeah, he doesn't really extend further than 15 feet, but with the team I have, that's good enough.

Hayes had more range than that. He could make the 18-20 footer.

he could, 1 out of every 3 tries at it.

An argument could be made that hitting 20 foot shots at a rate of 33% in the 1970's  probably translates to mid to high 30's for the 2010's from 23 feet.

[Silky]

With Rick Barry getting stolen for me, I have to go a different direction. Luckily, this guy was on the top half of my board and still happy to get him.

12x All-Star
6x All NBA
2x All NBA Defensive Team
2x Rebounding league leader
NBA Champion

With the 12th pick in the 4th round, the Detroit Pistons are happy to select a guy who would keep our defensive identity honest, while adding some scoring punch to the team.

We select The Big E, Elvin Hayes.

For your team, this was a much better pick than Rick Barry. Love this pick for your team. Hayes was a terror down low and was a fantastic defender of men much bigger than him, much like Cowens. He can switch between PF and C.

You should send CFF a thank you note for taking Rick Barry forcing you to take Hayes. 😂😂😂

Maybe I should.

Yeah. Another good thing about him is his shooting. Yeah, he doesn't really extend further than 15 feet, but with the team I have, that's good enough.

Hayes had more range than that. He could make the 18-20 footer.

he could, 1 out of every 3 tries at it.

An argument could be made that hitting 20 foot shots at a rate of 33% in the 1970's  probably translates to mid to high 30's for the 2010's from 23 feet.

Sure.

I dont see the logic in that argument but it could certainly be made.

[Silky]

I cannot believe Yao fell this far.

Fantastic person
Exceptional teammate
A true giant
He made teams change gameplans even though some of the results never showed on the boxscore


He made alot of the bigmen taken in front of him very confused

Top 25 winshare per minute... EVER. Just ahead of dr j and bill rusell. Let that sink in.

Shaq states that Yao was the onlt player he ever had trouble with and puts him in the same category as the dream.


https://youtu.be/uQrDmt_RNtk

https://youtu.be/htm7b_saqcs

Had the refs called him the way they called for shaq he would have averaged 30

[Roy H.]

I cannot believe Yao fell this far.

Fantastic person
Exceptional teammate
A true giant
He made teams change gameplans even though some of the results never showed on the boxscore


He made alot of the bigmen taken in front of him very confused

Top 25 winshare per minute... EVER. Just ahead of dr j and bill rusell. Let that sink in.

Shaq states that Yao was the onlt player he ever had trouble with and puts him in the same category as the dream.


https://youtu.be/uQrDmt_RNtk

https://youtu.be/htm7b_saqcs

Had the refs called him the way they called for shaq he would have averaged 30

I think Yao went about where he should. Very good player, but not somebody who will ever be in the top-25 of all-time conversation.

Defensively, Hakeem could defend most PFs, but I think it’s wasting his dominance a bit.  Offensively, though, I don’t like Hakeem and Yao together much at all.

[Silky]

I cannot believe Yao fell this far.

Fantastic person
Exceptional teammate
A true giant
He made teams change gameplans even though some of the results never showed on the boxscore


He made alot of the bigmen taken in front of him very confused

Top 25 winshare per minute... EVER. Just ahead of dr j and bill rusell. Let that sink in.

Shaq states that Yao was the onlt player he ever had trouble with and puts him in the same category as the dream.


https://youtu.be/uQrDmt_RNtk

https://youtu.be/htm7b_saqcs

Had the refs called him the way they called for shaq he would have averaged 30

I think Yao went about where he should. Very good player, but not somebody who will ever be in the top-25 of all-time conversation.

Defensively, Hakeem could defend most PFs, but I think it’s wasting his dominance a bit.  Offensively, though, I don’t like Hakeem and Yao together much at all.

Teams not fiished yet

[GreenFaith1819]

Going with Paul George at SF.

I was thinking way earlier that this guy could be a nice 5th starter on my team -- great defender, great shooter, seems to be the type that can accept that role.  I think you could have had him later in the draft, but I think he can fill that role.

p.s. Be sure to make it easy on nick and state your team name and which pick # you're using.

Thanks.

Got plenty of ideas to fill out remainder of roster so at this point PG13 wasn't a reach - at least to me.

PG is easily a top 10 player in the NBA.

After the runs on LeBron, Kawhi, Durant, AD and a few others he fit the Big SF role for me perfectly, is not a drama king and fits in perfectly.

There are quite a few offensively dynamic SFs out there that I looked at hard but none of these guys had the defensive chops I looked for. He is also a bonafide 3pt threat for the MODERN NBA.

Also - had real-world stuff going on so made this post in haste. Wasn't forgetting the proper format just lacked the time. 3rd Hist draft so I've been around the rodeo. Thanks though.

[gouki88]

Really happy with the way my team is looking after 5 rounds. I feel like the balance is really solid. Perimeter shooting with Bird and Pierce, awesome passing at 3 positions, 3 double-digit rebounders and some of the best FT generators in NBA history. Plus a few multiple All-Defence guys!

Other teams I like a lot are Chicago and the Lakers. That AD trade really solved some issues for the LA team.

[Somebody]

I'm happy with how the draft and trade went down, I got an incredibly modern PF/C duo who'd body up their opposition as well as a wing that this board rates highly. I'll watch some film on the Doctor though to form an opinion of his game, any links?

[Somebody]

As someone who started watching Yao when I was a few years of age, I think he's an okay fit next to Hakeem. Yao was deceptively quick-he had the mobility to cover the perimeter a wee bit with his massive size, and can keep up with the behemoths inside. His passing was never an outlet machine, but was very good in half court sets where he'd catch the ball in the low/mid/high post, with nifty overhead and behind the back passes in his arsenal. His outside shooting also helps with spacing.

With that being said, I don't love the fit with him and Hakeem. Both need the ball in the post to be the best they can be, and if you're using either of them as a floor spacer you're wasting their skillsets.

[Somebody]

Going with Paul George at SF.

I was thinking way earlier that this guy could be a nice 5th starter on my team -- great defender, great shooter, seems to be the type that can accept that role.  I think you could have had him later in the draft, but I think he can fill that role.

p.s. Be sure to make it easy on nick and state your team name and which pick # you're using.

Thanks.

Got plenty of ideas to fill out remainder of roster so at this point PG13 wasn't a reach - at least to me.

PG is easily a top 10 player in the NBA.

After the runs on LeBron, Kawhi, Durant, AD and a few others he fit the Big SF role for me perfectly, is not a drama king and fits in perfectly.

There are quite a few offensively dynamic SFs out there that I looked at hard but none of these guys had the defensive chops I looked for. He is also a bonafide 3pt threat for the MODERN NBA.

Also - had real-world stuff going on so made this post in haste. Wasn't forgetting the proper format just lacked the time. 3rd Hist draft so I've been around the rodeo. Thanks though.

PG would've had a "strong MVP" season if he didn't tear his shoulder in February. His scoring+efficiency+creation package is a rung below guys like Durant and Kawhi, but his strong defense makes up for it. I know people dislike modern players being selected over older legends, but I think PG deserves such a high spot with his modern game.

[Who]

So did the Dr J for Anthony Davis go through then?

I thought that was going to get rescinded.

[Somebody]

So did the Dr J for Anthony Davis go through then?

I thought that was going to get rescinded.

It did go through, we agreed to the same trade but I read too much into RP's PM about Nick's typo. Sorry for the drama.

[mobilija]

Gotta be a run on SG today. Lots of great ones out there. One in particular that is gonna put someone’s team over the top in a 6th man role.

[Who]

So did the Dr J for Anthony Davis go through then?

I thought that was going to get rescinded.

It did go through, we agreed to the same trade but I read too much into RP's PM about Nick's typo. Sorry for the drama.

Okay then, I love LAL's team with Doctor J instead of AD. I also love AD next to Kareem on the other team. I think that trade puts LAL on my favourite teams list next to Philly and behind Chicago.

I love Cowens and Garnett together. Plus Steph.

[Who]

I like Hakeem at PF. I think he'll do well there. He'll create a lot of problems with his man defense for guys like Karl Malone. Hakeem will also do similarly well offensively.

I am less convinced by Yao at center though. To be honest, I had Yao going undrafted (late pick at best) so to see him get picked so early was a shock to me.

Furthermore, I am not sure Yao is the best partner at center for Hakeem because ... Yao is just so bloody big. And slow. Big and slow. He is going to clog up the lanes for everyone on your team. Make you much easier to defend against. He just takes up so much space. He is HUGE.

Edit: I would bought into Hakeem at PF easier with a quicker more mobile center next to him.

I love the Payton, Kobe and Hakeem parts of San Antonio. I love the defense and the quickness of that group. Things that I believe will translate / create value for a team very well in this CB Historical League. Less convinced by the Yao part.

Although your plan with Yao as rim protector with those quick defenders around him was very interesting. Gives me something to think more about.