2019 Historical Draft Thread(TIME TO REVEAL THE WINNER!!!)

[Yoki_IsTheName]

Would Karl Malone and Patrick Ewing shoot 3s in today's league?

I think Karl Malone could eventually adapt and hit a three. Not sure about Ewing. He's really comfortable on the post.

[nickagneta]

Would Karl Malone and Patrick Ewing shoot 3s in today's league?

Malone could if brought up in this era. Not sure about Ewing but he was very good out to about 16-18 feet. His mid-range jumper was money later in his career and that's what a lot of those late 80's/90's centers did to expand their games, they got good out to about 18-20 feet. Heck even KG was like that. Amazing mid-range game but never really went out to three, even in the modern era. So maybe not Ewing.

[Roy H.]

Would Karl Malone and Patrick Ewing shoot 3s in today's league?

I think Karl Malone could eventually adapt and hit a three. Not sure about Ewing. He's really comfortable on the post.

Anything is possible. I mean, Aron Baynes added a three point shot. If he could, Ewing could. Let’s revisit this after the draft, as there are a lot of low post guys who learned to shoot that I can’t name right now.

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Ewing’s legacy hasn’t aged well, mostly because he wasn’t as good as Hakeem, Shaq and Robinson. Put him in today’s NBA, though, and I think he’s the best big man in the game.

[Yoki_IsTheName]

Would Karl Malone and Patrick Ewing shoot 3s in today's league?

I think Karl Malone could eventually adapt and hit a three. Not sure about Ewing. He's really comfortable on the post.

Anything is possible. I mean, Aron Baynes added a three point shot. If he could, Ewing could. Let’s revisit this after the draft, as there are a lot of low post guys who learned to shoot that I can’t name right now.

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Ewing’s legacy hasn’t aged well, mostly because he wasn’t as good as Hakeem, Shaq and Robinson. Put him in today’s NBA, though, and I think he’s the best big man in the game.

That's fair. But if you take him out on the low post, which was his bread and butter, I don't think you will be using him to his fullest.

[gouki88]

Love what Philly and Chicago did this round

Philly
Bird
K Malone
Ewing
Tiny

Chicago
Duncan
Oscar
Elgin

Not too sold on Philly personally. Only Bird can spread the floor for bird. That is a midrange team after larry.

But Chicago got GREAT value with Elgin.

Oh, I am sold on Philly. Plus gouki has pick 5 tomorrow. Wonder if he goes BPA and if that player isn't a SG have that person off the bench or does he add a top notch 3 point shooting SG?

Definitely needs more spacing, tiny, Ewing and Malone isnt giving it.

Also not sure I like the defense there. I mean Tiny has none, depending on the ear Bird, as a SF was lacking and depending on the year Ewing was slow as molasses and Malone was average.

The core is intriguing, but there is a lot of work left to do.

I can't say I know how a PF who made multiple All-Defence first teams is average on that end. Plus, I think that trio stacks up in terms of rebounding with just about any.

I also love what Tiny brings on offence. Obviously his usage will be different, but he was insanely good at passing and getting to the line. That was in the 70's. He could probably crack 10FTA per game in today's rules.

[Silky]

Love what Philly and Chicago did this round

Philly
Bird
K Malone
Ewing
Tiny

Chicago
Duncan
Oscar
Elgin

Not too sold on Philly personally. Only Bird can spread the floor for bird. That is a midrange team after larry.

But Chicago got GREAT value with Elgin.

Oh, I am sold on Philly. Plus gouki has pick 5 tomorrow. Wonder if he goes BPA and if that player isn't a SG have that person off the bench or does he add a top notch 3 point shooting SG?

Definitely needs more spacing, tiny, Ewing and Malone isnt giving it.

Also not sure I like the defense there. I mean Tiny has none, depending on the ear Bird, as a SF was lacking and depending on the year Ewing was slow as molasses and Malone was average.

The core is intriguing, but there is a lot of work left to do.

I can't say I know how a PF who made multiple All-Defence first teams is average on that end. Plus, I think that trio stacks up in terms of rebounding with just about any.

I also love what Tiny brings on offence. Obviously his usage will be different, but he was insanely good at passing and getting to the line. That was in the 70's. He could probably crack 10FTA per game in today's rules.

depends on year selected for Malone.

[Roy H.]

Love what Philly and Chicago did this round

Philly
Bird
K Malone
Ewing
Tiny

Chicago
Duncan
Oscar
Elgin

Not too sold on Philly personally. Only Bird can spread the floor for bird. That is a midrange team after larry.

But Chicago got GREAT value with Elgin.

Oh, I am sold on Philly. Plus gouki has pick 5 tomorrow. Wonder if he goes BPA and if that player isn't a SG have that person off the bench or does he add a top notch 3 point shooting SG?

Definitely needs more spacing, tiny, Ewing and Malone isnt giving it.

Also not sure I like the defense there. I mean Tiny has none, depending on the ear Bird, as a SF was lacking and depending on the year Ewing was slow as molasses and Malone was average.

The core is intriguing, but there is a lot of work left to do.

I can't say I know how a PF who made multiple All-Defence first teams is average on that end. Plus, I think that trio stacks up in terms of rebounding with just about any.

I also love what Tiny brings on offence. Obviously his usage will be different, but he was insanely good at passing and getting to the line. That was in the 70's. He could probably crack 10FTA per game in today's rules.

depends on year selected for Malone.

1990, 1993 or 1997?

[gouki88]

Love what Philly and Chicago did this round

Philly
Bird
K Malone
Ewing
Tiny

Chicago
Duncan
Oscar
Elgin

Not too sold on Philly personally. Only Bird can spread the floor for bird. That is a midrange team after larry.

But Chicago got GREAT value with Elgin.

Oh, I am sold on Philly. Plus gouki has pick 5 tomorrow. Wonder if he goes BPA and if that player isn't a SG have that person off the bench or does he add a top notch 3 point shooting SG?

Definitely needs more spacing, tiny, Ewing and Malone isnt giving it.

Also not sure I like the defense there. I mean Tiny has none, depending on the ear Bird, as a SF was lacking and depending on the year Ewing was slow as molasses and Malone was average.

The core is intriguing, but there is a lot of work left to do.

I can't say I know how a PF who made multiple All-Defence first teams is average on that end. Plus, I think that trio stacks up in terms of rebounding with just about any.

I also love what Tiny brings on offence. Obviously his usage will be different, but he was insanely good at passing and getting to the line. That was in the 70's. He could probably crack 10FTA per game in today's rules.

depends on year selected for Malone.

1990, 1993 or 1997?

Yeah, plus not sure why I’d pick a season where he wasn’t at his best all-round. Not like I’m going to pick LAL Malone

[greenrunsdeep41]

I’m interested to see a list of PFs that can guard Giannis by themselves. Maybe 3?

[Roy H.]

I’m interested to see a list of PFs that can guard Giannis by themselves. Maybe 3?

I think a lot of team defenses will be able to limit him.  One on one is tough, but I think KG, Duncan and Malone would be up for it, among superstars. Some great PF defenders are still on the board as well.

Do you think he can cover guys like Malone and Duncan on the other end?  Charles Barkley is going to treat him like some unlucky kid from Angola.

[RodyTur10]

Three teams stand out to me:

Moses, Magic and Barkley
Bird, Ewing, Malone and Tiny
Oscar, Baylor and Duncan

Nice, watching this game and the discussions. I'll give every player and the commissioner a TP!

Those teams do stand out, but I also like the front court of Durant, Antetokounmpo and Russell on defense!

And West, Wade, O'Neal isn't too shabby either. PG, SG and C might be the hardest positions to fill in terms of fit and quantity of superstars.

[action781]

I’m interested to see a list of PFs that can guard Giannis by themselves. Maybe 3?

Only 5 other teams actually have a PF so far.  Of the 5 drafted so far, I'd say 3 of them can, yes.  But there are a few undrafted ones who also can.  Or teams can put an agile center on him like the Celtics did effectively this year.

[action781]

Three teams stand out to me:

Moses, Magic and Barkley
Bird, Ewing, Malone and Tiny
Oscar, Baylor and Duncan

Nice, watching this game and the discussions. I'll give every player and the commissioner a TP!

Those teams do stand out, but I also like the front court of Durant, Antetokounmpo and Russell on defense!

And West, Wade, O'Neal isn't too shabby either. PG, SG and C might be the hardest positions to fill in terms of fit and quantity of superstars.

TP for the impartial perspective!

I think SG is a very interesting position.  It's probably the shallowest... but once you get past #3 (Wade), you get a bunch of shooters that can play off-ball well and slot into many teams offense.  They just will struggle to defend the top 2 SGs and maybe Wade too.

[Roy H.]

Three teams stand out to me:

Moses, Magic and Barkley
Bird, Ewing, Malone and Tiny
Oscar, Baylor and Duncan

Nice, watching this game and the discussions. I'll give every player and the commissioner a TP!

Those teams do stand out, but I also like the front court of Durant, Antetokounmpo and Russell on defense!

And West, Wade, O'Neal isn't too shabby either. PG, SG and C might be the hardest positions to fill in terms of fit and quantity of superstars.

TP for the impartial perspective!

I think SG is a very interesting position.  It's probably the shallowest... but once you get past #3 (Wade), you get a bunch of shooters that can play off-ball well and slot into many teams offense.  They just will struggle to defend the top 2 SGs and maybe Wade too.

There’s a guy who played SG in his early days that I put right up there with Wade. I think most fans will think of him more as a SF, though, which is where he achieved the most fame.

[gouki88]

My breakdown of the last round:

Pick 1: John Stockton.
He was high on my list (very high). I think he's one of the underrated all-time greats. Amazing passer, one of the most durable players of all time, efficient scorer and a massive pest on defence. Depending on the season you pick he's a solid threat from outside too. You know you're good when one of the best defensive guards of the 90s consistently describes you as his toughest guard assignment.

Pick 2: Scottie Pippen.
Pippen and LeBron is awesome. Two of the best passing forwards ever, and Pippen can allow LBJ to take the less difficult defensive match-up. That's one athletic dang team too.

Pick 3: Patrick Ewing.
I know he doesn't have the same reputation as the big 3 centers of the 90's (Hakeem, Admiral and Shaq), but I think he's become somewhat forgotten about. He was an elite defensive presence at times, could dominate in the post with good efficiency, and was a good rebounder. Next to Malone and Bird he can focus on really being a presence on the inside.

Pick 4: Tiny Archibald.
I know some may think this a reach, but Tiny's pre-injury peak was amazing. He had FT numbers that were preposterous for someone so small, his AST% was in the 30's numerous times in his career, and in one season he led the league in PPG and APG. His speed and passing in today's game would be deadly.

Pick 5: Walt Frazier.
All-Defence guard who won championships and could do it all. Score, pass, rebound, you name it. Next to the inside-outside 7 footers up front I like this pick.

Pick 6: Charles Barkley.
I love Chuck. If I didn't get Malone in the 2nd round I likely would have gone after him this round. The rebounding of Chuck and Moses is off the charts. Magic will help the Round Mound eat

Pick 7: Dwyane Wade.
Good pick. Proven chemistry with Shaq, proven ability to change his game depending on who he is teamed up with, and he had a legit MVP-caliber peak. Really can't fault that. Only knock on his game is shooting, but I'd have West as an elite shooter.

Pick 8: Chris Paul.
Chris Paul's peak was really good. Efficient scoring, great passing and really good playing the passing lanes on defence. I don't know if he's who I would have taken, but alongside Dr J and KAJ he can really play the Point God role. Plus I think he'd flourish without all the pressure on him to score

Pick 9: Tracy McGrady.
Another guy I had high on my list. His peak was every bit as good as Kobe's for my mind. Not quite as good defensively as Kobe was at times, but Kobe never scored 30+ with the 3 point shooting TMac was able to.

Pick 10: Giannis.
I thought this was an early pick. His MVP season last season was definitely good, but the questions over his game (shooting) and the lack of post-season success hurts him for me. That's a really long team though.

Pick 11: Anthony Davis.
Not sure I'd have taken AD here. Either AD or KG is going to be playing the 5 full-time, and I think that could cause problems against some of the bulls that have played in the league, like Wilt or Shaq. Both are out East, but even bigs like KAJ and Moses could be a bit overpowering for him.

Pick 12: Elgin Baylor.
Love this pick. Didn't think there was any way to fit him in my team, so I didn't take him this round, but he's an all-time great for sure. Some of the most insane stats.