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Re: Shrewsberry: Stevens Really Beat Himself up Over Last Season
« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2019, 04:56:57 PM »

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I wonder if last season was the first time that Brad really encountered a situation as a coach where no amount of positive attitude, even-keeled demeanor, big-picture outlook, and diligent scheming could solve the problems that were facing the team.


I'm confident that last season's experience will make him better as a coach.  Hopefully Ainge gives him a group of players who are ready and willing to buy in.



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even some players already gathering at the practice facility to focus on what comes next


I would love to know which players those are.  My guess Hayward is one.
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Re: Shrewsberry: Stevens Really Beat Himself up Over Last Season
« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2019, 05:08:16 PM »

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"This season’s struggles, however, remain somewhat confounding for the coaching staff. Shrewsberry said it was frustrating that the Celtics were unable to identify the root of their struggles. If they had, he said, perhaps they could have found an elixir before it was too late."

Most people could see the problems easily enough.  So, absolutely, the Celtics should start with figuring out why they were so blind.


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Re: Shrewsberry: Stevens Really Beat Himself up Over Last Season
« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2019, 05:12:03 PM »

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Hope he finally stops tinkering with substitutions and rotations for half the season to "build data". Its a big chemistry killer that he does every year repeatedly.

Re: Shrewsberry: Stevens Really Beat Himself up Over Last Season
« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2019, 05:12:17 PM »

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"This season’s struggles, however, remain somewhat confounding for the coaching staff. Shrewsberry said it was frustrating that the Celtics were unable to identify the root of their struggles. If they had, he said, perhaps they could have found an elixir before it was too late."

Most people could see the problems easily enough.  So, absolutely, the Celtics should start with figuring out why they were so blind.

Yes, because the people who spend day in and day out with and around the team don't know as much as some posters on a message board who probably aren't misinformed at all.
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Re: Shrewsberry: Stevens Really Beat Himself up Over Last Season
« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2019, 05:16:00 PM »

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"This season’s struggles, however, remain somewhat confounding for the coaching staff. Shrewsberry said it was frustrating that the Celtics were unable to identify the root of their struggles. If they had, he said, perhaps they could have found an elixir before it was too late."

Most people could see the problems easily enough.  So, absolutely, the Celtics should start with figuring out why they were so blind.

I immediately jumped at the same exact quote.

The notion that the issues, "remain somewhat confounding" to them is disturbing.

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Re: Shrewsberry: Stevens Really Beat Himself up Over Last Season
« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2019, 05:20:20 PM »

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CBS needs to grow a pair

Just move on and dont try to satisfy every player

Re: Shrewsberry: Stevens Really Beat Himself up Over Last Season
« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2019, 05:23:42 PM »

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he should

he sucked

Re: Shrewsberry: Stevens Really Beat Himself up Over Last Season
« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2019, 05:36:53 PM »

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Tinkering with lineups is great when it gets the most out of lesser players. When it fails, though, you can’t hold players accountable.

IMO Jaylen should have started all year, and Rozier should have been shipped out. Brown earned it last year, he represents the future. Rozier, Smart and Irving aren’t a trio that works all at once. Morris should have remained a bench stabilizer.

Overthinking to a tee with the roster. Play your best guys, choose a path, and then scheme around that.

Irving/ Smart/ Brown/ Tatum/ Horford
6th man: Hayward
Rotation: Baynes, Morris
Deep Bench: Theis, Wanamaker, Williams, Yabu

Bookends Irving and Horford around your 3 most important young players. Hayward has a clear role and green light to shoot. Everyone else is a role player.
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Re: Shrewsberry: Stevens Really Beat Himself up Over Last Season
« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2019, 05:54:47 PM »

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Hope he finally stops tinkering with substitutions and rotations for half the season to "build data". Its a big chemistry killer that he does every year repeatedly.
yet, two years ago the team chemistry was great and we all loved the scrappy, hard-working celtics.
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Re: Shrewsberry: Stevens Really Beat Himself up Over Last Season
« Reply #10 on: May 30, 2019, 05:57:41 PM »

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Next year things will be better.

CBS and Kyrie will have a better defined roster....less mouths to feed.

They will ALL come back stronger and hungrier.

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Re: Shrewsberry: Stevens Really Beat Himself up Over Last Season
« Reply #11 on: May 30, 2019, 06:10:35 PM »

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"This season’s struggles, however, remain somewhat confounding for the coaching staff. Shrewsberry said it was frustrating that the Celtics were unable to identify the root of their struggles. If they had, he said, perhaps they could have found an elixir before it was too late."

Most people could see the problems easily enough.  So, absolutely, the Celtics should start with figuring out why they were so blind.

I immediately jumped at the same exact quote.

The notion that the issues, "remain somewhat confounding" to them is disturbing.

He may be trying to avoid throwing anybody under the bus. Unlike Rozier

Re: Shrewsberry: Stevens Really Beat Himself up Over Last Season
« Reply #12 on: May 30, 2019, 06:19:36 PM »

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Hope he finally stops tinkering with substitutions and rotations for half the season to "build data". Its a big chemistry killer that he does every year repeatedly.

this coming year will be his 6th season, chemistry has been an issue for 1 season.  ALL of the other seasons the team overachieved.

hes proven he can do a lot with his 'data' when he gets it, so you should be very optimistic about him being able to fix the problem from this season instead of harping on him to change everything

Greg

Re: Shrewsberry: Stevens Really Beat Himself up Over Last Season
« Reply #13 on: May 30, 2019, 06:21:39 PM »

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I wonder if last season was the first time that Brad really encountered a situation as a coach where no amount of positive attitude, even-keeled demeanor, big-picture outlook, and diligent scheming could solve the problems that were facing the team.


I'm confident that last season's experience will make him better as a coach.  Hopefully Ainge gives him a group of players who are ready and willing to buy in.



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even some players already gathering at the practice facility to focus on what comes next


I would love to know which players those are.  My guess Hayward is one.

Hayward and CBS go way back in college do no-brainer. Morris? Horford?


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Re: Shrewsberry: Stevens Really Beat Himself up Over Last Season
« Reply #14 on: May 30, 2019, 06:22:15 PM »

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Can start by nullifying the 3-ball philosophy.


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