Shrewsberry: Stevens Really Beat Himself up Over Last Season

[mmmmm]

As for not using bigs more, I think the explanation there is probably that Brad felt a lot of pressure to try to get the wings and guards on the roster more minutes.  I am sure that the need to reintegrate Hayward while also trying to mollify Rozier and Morris were a major driver of that.

This notion really would bite my backside.   Rozier -- maybe.  He at least is a young asset under RFA control and was/is potentially an important fallback should Kyrie get injured or walk away in free agency.

But Morris?  How on earth does he merit 'mollification' over any other priority for this team?  The ONLY value to be extracted out of playing Morris a lot this year versus better, more 'basketball' oriented decisions is the value going into Morris' pocketbook via his next contract.

Once Morris' abnormal, red-hot and COMPLETELY UNSUSTAINABLE SHOOTING STREAK ran out of gas in December, there was no reason to continue to keep giving him huge minutes over other options on this roster -- in particular over Baynes, Hayward and Jaylen.

[Bobshot]

It started with Hayward and the pre-season, when Stevens seemed more interested in who was going to make the cut of the last few players than what the starting rotation was going to be. He never bothered playing the regulars much in pre-season games, and then suddenly the starting rotation for the first season game was the money!  He should have known thay Hayward wasn't 100%, and he had no business being in the starting rotation in the beginning. I think that caused some resentment of the young players who had played so well down the stretch.  Kyrie Irving wasn't 100% at the beginning of the season, either, though it wasn't the same as Hayward and Rozier's resentment was less founded, in my view. Rozier was the backup. That was his role.

I blame both Ainge and Stevens on the Hayward misjudgement, since both share in personnel decisions.

[Ogaju]

as well he should.

[Csfan1984]

Hope he finally stops tinkering with substitutions and rotations for half the season to "build data". Its a big chemistry killer that he does every year repeatedly.

yet, two years ago the team chemistry was great and we all loved the scrappy, hard-working celtics.

Not really it took much better second half's and shorting rotations to put the team back on track. It's every year but this year they didn't click after all star break compared to those other teams. This team has too many chefs for there to not be structure in place start to finish.

[Ogaju]

Hope he finally stops tinkering with substitutions and rotations for half the season to "build data". Its a big chemistry killer that he does every year repeatedly.

this coming year will be his 6th season, chemistry has been an issue for 1 season.  ALL of the other seasons the team overachieved.

hes proven he can do a lot with his 'data' when he gets it, so you should be very optimistic about him being able to fix the problem from this season instead of harping on him to change everything

have you ever hear of data overload? Too much data to make sense.

[Csfan1984]

Hope he finally stops tinkering with substitutions and rotations for half the season to "build data". Its a big chemistry killer that he does every year repeatedly.

this coming year will be his 6th season, chemistry has been an issue for 1 season.  ALL of the other seasons the team overachieved.

hes proven he can do a lot with his 'data' when he gets it, so you should be very optimistic about him being able to fix the problem from this season instead of harping on him to change everything

1st half's of seasons they have struggled due to his tinkering each year. Just because they pulled it out a few second halfs doesn't mean it's not a problem. You are starting in the hole.

[Never Nervous Pervis]

Hope he finally stops tinkering with substitutions and rotations for half the season to "build data". Its a big chemistry killer that he does every year repeatedly.

this coming year will be his 6th season, chemistry has been an issue for 1 season.  ALL of the other seasons the team overachieved.

hes proven he can do a lot with his 'data' when he gets it, so you should be very optimistic about him being able to fix the problem from this season instead of harping on him to change everything

1st half's of seasons they have struggled due to his tinkering each year. Just because they pulled it out a few second halfs doesn't mean it's not a problem. You are starting in the hole.

Yeah, that 30-10 start in 2017-2018 (including 16 in a row early) was a huge problem, especially without Hayward.

[Csfan1984]

Hope he finally stops tinkering with substitutions and rotations for half the season to "build data". Its a big chemistry killer that he does every year repeatedly.

this coming year will be his 6th season, chemistry has been an issue for 1 season.  ALL of the other seasons the team overachieved.

hes proven he can do a lot with his 'data' when he gets it, so you should be very optimistic about him being able to fix the problem from this season instead of harping on him to change everything

1st half's of seasons they have struggled due to his tinkering each year. Just because they pulled it out a few second halfs doesn't mean it's not a problem. You are starting in the hole.

Yeah, that 30-10 start in 2017-2018 (including 16 in a row early) was a huge problem, especially without Hayward.

Are you kidding you remember how they barely won most of those games and BS called the streak fools gold. They struggled.

[Never Nervous Pervis]

Hope he finally stops tinkering with substitutions and rotations for half the season to "build data". Its a big chemistry killer that he does every year repeatedly.

this coming year will be his 6th season, chemistry has been an issue for 1 season.  ALL of the other seasons the team overachieved.

hes proven he can do a lot with his 'data' when he gets it, so you should be very optimistic about him being able to fix the problem from this season instead of harping on him to change everything

1st half's of seasons they have struggled due to his tinkering each year. Just because they pulled it out a few second halfs doesn't mean it's not a problem. You are starting in the hole.

Yeah, that 30-10 start in 2017-2018 (including 16 in a row early) was a huge problem, especially without Hayward.

Are you kidding you remember how they barely won most of those games and BS called the streak fools gold. They struggled.

You are what your record says you are. - Bill Parcells

[Csfan1984]

Hope he finally stops tinkering with substitutions and rotations for half the season to "build data". Its a big chemistry killer that he does every year repeatedly.

this coming year will be his 6th season, chemistry has been an issue for 1 season.  ALL of the other seasons the team overachieved.

hes proven he can do a lot with his 'data' when he gets it, so you should be very optimistic about him being able to fix the problem from this season instead of harping on him to change everything

1st half's of seasons they have struggled due to his tinkering each year. Just because they pulled it out a few second halfs doesn't mean it's not a problem. You are starting in the hole.

Yeah, that 30-10 start in 2017-2018 (including 16 in a row early) was a huge problem, especially without Hayward.

Are you kidding you remember how they barely won most of those games and BS called the streak fools gold. They struggled.

You are what your record says you are. - Bill Parcells

Unless you are not and you get beat by a lower seed.

[Never Nervous Pervis]

Hope he finally stops tinkering with substitutions and rotations for half the season to "build data". Its a big chemistry killer that he does every year repeatedly.

this coming year will be his 6th season, chemistry has been an issue for 1 season.  ALL of the other seasons the team overachieved.

hes proven he can do a lot with his 'data' when he gets it, so you should be very optimistic about him being able to fix the problem from this season instead of harping on him to change everything

1st half's of seasons they have struggled due to his tinkering each year. Just because they pulled it out a few second halfs doesn't mean it's not a problem. You are starting in the hole.

Yeah, that 30-10 start in 2017-2018 (including 16 in a row early) was a huge problem, especially without Hayward.

Are you kidding you remember how they barely won most of those games and BS called the streak fools gold. They struggled.

You are what your record says you are. - Bill Parcells

Unless you are not and you get beat by a lower seed.

LOL at saying 30-10 is struggling. That's priceless.

[86MaxwellSmart]

It was the perfect storm for an awful season...

Force feeding Hayward minutes, when he didn't deserve them.
Too many players on the final year of their contracts.
Kobe monkey wrenching Tatum's game.
AD's pending free agency, keeping Danny from making moves.
Team's in the East all getting better while we languished.
yup.

[greg683x]

Hope he finally stops tinkering with substitutions and rotations for half the season to "build data". Its a big chemistry killer that he does every year repeatedly.

this coming year will be his 6th season, chemistry has been an issue for 1 season.  ALL of the other seasons the team overachieved.

hes proven he can do a lot with his 'data' when he gets it, so you should be very optimistic about him being able to fix the problem from this season instead of harping on him to change everything

1st half's of seasons they have struggled due to his tinkering each year. Just because they pulled it out a few second halfs doesn't mean it's not a problem. You are starting in the hole.

Yeah, that 30-10 start in 2017-2018 (including 16 in a row early) was a huge problem, especially without Hayward.

Are you kidding you remember how they barely won most of those games and BS called the streak fools gold. They struggled.

You are what your record says you are. - Bill Parcells

Unless you are not and you get beat by a lower seed.

In the Eastern Conference Finals??!?  In Game 7?!?  Without another one of your better players?!?

Please, keep doubling down and dig yourself in a deeper hole

[ozgod]

From Adam H in the Boston Globe:

https://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/celtics/2019/05/30/really-beat-himself-former-celtics-assistant-opens-about-brad-stevens-trying-year/pGX4Szty2z4aX9QkfqpEgK/story.html

Well he should. He has command responsibility. But everyone faces adversity and setbacks. It's how you respond to them that counts.

[Csfan1984]

Hope he finally stops tinkering with substitutions and rotations for half the season to "build data". Its a big chemistry killer that he does every year repeatedly.

this coming year will be his 6th season, chemistry has been an issue for 1 season.  ALL of the other seasons the team overachieved.

hes proven he can do a lot with his 'data' when he gets it, so you should be very optimistic about him being able to fix the problem from this season instead of harping on him to change everything

1st half's of seasons they have struggled due to his tinkering each year. Just because they pulled it out a few second halfs doesn't mean it's not a problem. You are starting in the hole.

Yeah, that 30-10 start in 2017-2018 (including 16 in a row early) was a huge problem, especially without Hayward.

Are you kidding you remember how they barely won most of those games and BS called the streak fools gold. They struggled.

You are what your record says you are. - Bill Parcells

Unless you are not and you get beat by a lower seed.

LOL at saying 30-10 is struggling. That's priceless.

Winning games with a ton of luck doesn't count as playing well. The record isnt the sign of struggles I am talking about. Its the play not the standings. Do you even remember how crazy some of those games went? Teams can play bad or poorly and still win especially if you had some luck. How many games has this team consistently played poorly for whole quarters especially 1st and 3rds but still won, are we going to say they had a great game? The answer is no. The rotations and subsitions haven't been good is my issue. How many times has this team been dominated on the boards and BS has three guards line ups, you forget that blunder he repeats over and over? This is basketball coaching choices that he is messing up often. Not utilizing length, cutters, or simply controlling the playing time of guys that aren't following the game prlan.