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Re: Kevin O'Connor: Kyrie is "most likely to stay with Celtics"
« Reply #240 on: May 04, 2019, 08:22:12 AM »

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IF Kyrie stays...offer Tatum, picks, whatever for Davis. They need him to get through the east next year (basically going to be Philly and the Bucks.

If they can't get AD and Kyrie stays, build with your youth, I would make an offer for Beal using the picks. Boston needs outside shooting.

Plan C is Kyrie leaves. then you just build around the youth, make the picks.

Re: Kevin O'Connor: Kyrie is "most likely to stay with Celtics"
« Reply #241 on: May 04, 2019, 08:40:06 AM »

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Jaylen have shown last year that he can be an alpha until he hurt himself. There is also still the draft. But while Danny had drafted decent players, they are very flawed in some ways.

- Olynyk, the guy we draft over Giannis is smart and unselfish but a soft, mentally weak player.
- Rozier, while have all the athletic gifts seems to have a low BBIQ
- Smart is the heart and soul of this team but he cannot be relied consistently on the offensive end.
- Tatum have the chance to be that alpha, but he looks more like Harrison Barnes to me so far.

In case Kyrie leaves, I think Danny should try to slide down the draft and roll the dice with Ja Morant or Coby White. Otherwise, replace the bad fit role players (Rozier) with a potentially solid young prospect who could contribute right away.
Slide down the draft?  Our best pick is #14 unless we get really lucky.  Ja Morant is probably going top 3 so we've got next to no shot at him. 

Re: Kevin O'Connor: Kyrie is "most likely to stay with Celtics"
« Reply #242 on: May 04, 2019, 08:51:02 AM »

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I think BOS would still be his best option, regardless of what happens this post-season.

That being said I wouldn't hate the man if he left. I'd wish him the best.

I've thoroughly enjoyed watching him play in BOS and I've seen his growth as a leader.

He is experienced enough (and wise enough) to make his OWN decisions.

Re: Kevin O'Connor: Kyrie is "most likely to stay with Celtics"
« Reply #243 on: May 04, 2019, 09:22:46 AM »

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I think he stays. Celtics have all the pieces to build a contender in the east...whether it is develop Tatum/Brown or go out and get Anthony Davis.

If you end up with a lineup of Kyrie/Brown/Hayward/Horford/Davis that is a really solid team to get out of the east.

Re: Kevin O'Connor: Kyrie is "most likely to stay with Celtics"
« Reply #244 on: May 04, 2019, 09:50:15 AM »

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I think he stays. Celtics have all the pieces to build a contender in the east...whether it is develop Tatum/Brown or go out and get Anthony Davis.

If you end up with a lineup of Kyrie/Brown/Hayward/Horford/Davis that is a really solid team to get out of the east.

With KD’s future uncertain imagine if we pull off the Davis trade.  Then we make a call out to FA Durant, and say we could work a sign and trade with the Warriors with either Horford or Hayward going back (might be a little more tricky with only I think 1/2 of his new salary counting towards the trade).  Then we end up with Irving, Davis, and Durant and whatever is left over. Ha

Re: Kevin O'Connor: Kyrie is "most likely to stay with Celtics"
« Reply #245 on: May 04, 2019, 09:57:02 AM »

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i been saying all year dont b surprise to see both Durant and Davis here
C/PF-Horford, Baynes, Noel, Theis, Morris,
SF/SG- Tatum, Brown, Hayward, Smart, Semi, Clark
PG- Irving, Rozier, Larkin

Re: Kevin O'Connor: Kyrie is "most likely to stay with Celtics"
« Reply #246 on: May 04, 2019, 10:00:41 AM »

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I’d love to see kyrie sign back here. As he goes, we do. The bucks have been doubling kyrie and it’s worked for them
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Re: Kevin O'Connor: Kyrie is "most likely to stay with Celtics"
« Reply #247 on: May 04, 2019, 11:05:04 AM »

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At one point I made a trade on how the Celtics could get KD and Kyrie. Although this may sound too good to be true to some people, the main thing I wanted to demonstrate is that’s the Celtics are in position to trade for 2 max contracts. They can literally obtain anyone by offering youth and picks. We have enough salary cap on our team to match with anyone. Even if you feel like No team would like Gordy, but I’m sure that even in the state he’s still good enough to start on most teams, especially as he gets more comfortable.

If Kyrie and AD are ok this roster, they may look to add another high value asset, who really knows. All I’m saying is that’s it’s POSSIBLE. I always think back how we got KG and Ray. Even a team which just the addition of AD and the subtraction of Tatum is good, but I feel empty. I feel like we can still obtain a Beal, or Booker, or a Westbrook (if they want to blow it up we could be in position)


Or something like this if no 3rd team is involved.
http://tradenba.com/trades/SyIV2XijV
« Last Edit: May 04, 2019, 11:15:02 AM by RazzelnoDazzel »

Re: Kevin O'Connor: Kyrie is "most likely to stay with Celtics"
« Reply #248 on: May 04, 2019, 11:30:34 AM »

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Or if you feel like Gordy must go to a 3rd team.

http://tradenba.com/trades/HJ7-lEoiN

Re: Kevin O'Connor: Kyrie is "most likely to stay with Celtics"
« Reply #249 on: May 04, 2019, 11:37:02 AM »

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At one point I made a trade on how the Celtics could get KD and Kyrie. Although this may sound too good to be true to some people, the main thing I wanted to demonstrate is that’s the Celtics are in position to trade for 2 max contracts. They can literally obtain anyone by offering youth and picks. We have enough salary cap on our team to match with anyone. Even if you feel like No team would like Gordy, but I’m sure that even in the state he’s still good enough to start on most teams, especially as he gets more comfortable.

If Kyrie and AD are ok this roster, they may look to add another high value asset, who really knows. All I’m saying is that’s it’s POSSIBLE. I always think back how we got KG and Ray. Even a team which just the addition of AD and the subtraction of Tatum is good, but I feel empty. I feel like we can still obtain a Beal, or Booker, or a Westbrook (if they want to blow it up we could be in position)


Or something like this if no 3rd team is involved.
http://tradenba.com/trades/SyIV2XijV
That's one of the most unrealistic trades I've seen on here and that's saying something. 

Re: Kevin O'Connor: Kyrie is "most likely to stay with Celtics"
« Reply #250 on: May 04, 2019, 11:43:26 AM »

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What if the Celts lose in five to the bucks?
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Re: Kevin O'Connor: Kyrie is "most likely to stay with Celtics"
« Reply #251 on: May 04, 2019, 11:48:33 AM »

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What if the Celts lose in five to the bucks?

I'm more scared about what happens if they lose in five to the Bucks and he DOES resign.

Now you have a team with three max contracts that can't make it out of the second round...

Re: Kevin O'Connor: Kyrie is "most likely to stay with Celtics"
« Reply #252 on: May 04, 2019, 11:50:27 AM »

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At one point I made a trade on how the Celtics could get KD and Kyrie. Although this may sound too good to be true to some people, the main thing I wanted to demonstrate is that’s the Celtics are in position to trade for 2 max contracts. They can literally obtain anyone by offering youth and picks. We have enough salary cap on our team to match with anyone. Even if you feel like No team would like Gordy, but I’m sure that even in the state he’s still good enough to start on most teams, especially as he gets more comfortable.

If Kyrie and AD are ok this roster, they may look to add another high value asset, who really knows. All I’m saying is that’s it’s POSSIBLE. I always think back how we got KG and Ray. Even a team which just the addition of AD and the subtraction of Tatum is good, but I feel empty. I feel like we can still obtain a Beal, or Booker, or a Westbrook (if they want to blow it up we could be in position)


Or something like this if no 3rd team is involved.
http://tradenba.com/trades/SyIV2XijV
I find the notion that Gordy has to be traded nonsensical. He's the perfect compliment to AD and Kyrie, if Brad lets him play his game. Especially if we lose both Tatum and Smart/Brown
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Re: Kevin O'Connor: Kyrie is "most likely to stay with Celtics"
« Reply #253 on: May 04, 2019, 12:02:54 PM »

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For those thinking we can somehow land Durant in a sign and trade, sign and trading for Durant hard caps the Celtics since they will most likely be at the apron. Hardcapping means most likely trading off players for salary relief and tremendously limiting our ability to sign other players.

Durant will not be on this team next year. It is a complete and total pipe dream that will not happen.

Re: Kevin O'Connor: Kyrie is "most likely to stay with Celtics"
« Reply #254 on: May 04, 2019, 12:07:48 PM »

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For those thinking we can somehow land Durant in a sign and trade, sign and trading for Durant hard caps the Celtics since they will most likely be at the apron. Hardcapping means most likely trading off players for salary relief and tremendously limiting our ability to sign other players.

Durant will not be on this team next year. It is a complete and total pipe dream that will not happen.
But if it diiiiiid.... ;)

He's probably the most offensively talented player in the league, and would make us instant favourites, but man he rubs me the wrong way. Seems like a total prick.
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