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Should the Celtics trade for AD?

Yes.  (Tatum in the deal)
22 (44.9%)
No.   (Not worth giving up assets for a one year rental)
19 (38.8%)
Yes but only if Tatum isn't in the deal.
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Offline RPGenerate

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The Clippers and the Nets aren't getting AD. They don't have the assets to make it work. I give it a 99% chance that he goes to us, the Knicks, or the Lakers.
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and here we go...im thinking either Celtics or Knicks..they not trading him to a Western team

Don't count out the Clippers. Jerry West has an amazing track record of getting these kind of moves done.

People keep saying the Clips, but I just don’t see them being a true contender for him. They’re pretty clearly a distant fourth, I think, especially with how much variability there would be with their package.
depends on what the Pels think of SGA and the unprotected Miami pick.  Plus they'd get Gallo who can either keep them competitive or can be moved for additional assets.  Throw in Shamet and all of a sudden that package is pretty good, especially if the Pels really like SGA.
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Someone said it many post ago and I agree. Smart, Tatum, 14th and filler is enough. If they convince Jrue to stay they will have 2 1St team all defenders at the 1 and 2....that’s enough on its own!

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Keep an eye on Brooklyn.

Allen, Dinwiddie, Kurucs, 17+27th Pick May get it done. Would have to add Crabbes contract as filler.

This would not be smart for NOP.

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Keep an eye on Brooklyn.

Allen, Dinwiddie, Kurucs, 17+27th Pick May get it done. Would have to add Crabbes contract as filler.

This would not be smart for NOP.
That's very generous. That's a very poor offer relative to the others
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PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
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Re: Anthony Davis trade thread(Davis trade request page 33)
« Reply #2975 on: June 04, 2019, 09:54:27 PM »

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It's hard for me to see Kyrie walking away from Davis and a good remaining core, minus some of the pieces that didn't mesh last year. If Kyrie wants a different situation, he'll have one in Boston just as much as leaving for another team.
After his preseason address to the season ticket holders and the commercial with his dad I thought we were good.

Now I have no faith in anything until its signed.

But there is no place like home. You don’t often get a chance to play where you want to play. The Knicks and nets have an opportunity to bring him in and build a team around him. That’s not an offer you can pass up easily. Yea Boston can kind of do this, but the NY teams are literally handing him the keys.

The keys to what?
lol
lol if that’s what he wants, that’s what he wants. 🤷🏽‍♂️

If KD's going to NY as well then Kyrie isn't getting any keys lol.

We will see. Uncle Drew is a huge draw for NY. Win or lose Kyrie is selling tickets.
Which often has nothing to do with whether a free agent will sign somewhere. That's something a team is concerned with
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Someone said it many post ago and I agree. Smart, Tatum, 14th and filler is enough. If they convince Jrue to stay they will have 2 1St team all defenders at the 1 and 2....that’s enough on its own!
Smart doesn't move the needle for them at all. Were I them I'd say Tatum & Brown or no deal. 

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Someone said it many post ago and I agree. Smart, Tatum, 14th and filler is enough. If they convince Jrue to stay they will have 2 1St team all defenders at the 1 and 2....that’s enough on its own!
Smart doesn't move the needle for them at all. Were I them I'd say Tatum & Brown or no deal.
It might not move the needle for you, but that package is basically what Griffin said he wanted.
He said he would look for a) an elite prospect (Tatum), b) a really good veteran role player (Smart) and c) picks
'23 Historical Draft: Orlando Magic.

PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
SG: Joe Dumars (92-93) / Jeff Hornacek (91-92) / Jerry Stackhouse (00-01)
SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)

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Someone said it many post ago and I agree. Smart, Tatum, 14th and filler is enough. If they convince Jrue to stay they will have 2 1St team all defenders at the 1 and 2....that’s enough on its own!
Smart doesn't move the needle for them at all. Were I them I'd say Tatum & Brown or no deal.

I have no interest in including Smart in any AD trade. Is there any chance we can get them to take Hayward?

Re: Boston - Houston - New Orleans 3-Way Deal
« Reply #2979 on: June 04, 2019, 10:29:08 PM »

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Saw this on Celticsblog.com and loved the idea.
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Houston: This gets them off the Chris Paul contract and onto a Gordon Hayward rehabilitation project. They might not like the risk, but it could beat paying Chris Paul $44 million in 2022. It also gets them Jrue Holiday, a fantastic two-way guard with crucial experience playing on and off the ball, who could likely gel with Houston’s notably guard-dominant system. I’m not sure why Houston would want drastic change after coming so close to the Finals two years in a row with the same core of players still under contract, but with an apparent power struggle between Morey and ownership, a shakeup seems inevitable. The Rockets definitely need a shakeup - I’m just not sure if that calls for a complete overhaul.

Pelicans: New Orleans would likely ask for some first-round picks in the trade, and Boston would be happy to give them up (reminder: Houston has no draft picks this year). New Orleans has almost zero chance of walking away as losers in this trade. If Paul can make them competitive in the short term, great! If not, they can develop their young players and build around Zion. Capela’s contract is extremely tradeable, meaning his acquisition wouldn’t be a strict commitment to build with him as a core player. Should another star demand to be moved, Capela could be added to sweeten any trade package. Finally, Tatum has room to grow, but without the pressure of playing in Boston. Even if he stagnates, you’ve got a reliable starting-caliber player who can get you 15-20 points and play some solid defense. Oh, and draft picks. They’re a crap shoot, but you can never have too many.

Boston: Oh boy. I don’t like the idea of giving up on Hayward and trading a good, young player for two guys with one year left on their contracts. However, the nucleus of Marcus Smart and Al Horford would still be intact, Kyrie could be convinced to re-sign, and, most importantly, my favorite son Jaylen is still on the team.

Typically I wouldn’t panic over the looming possibility of players leaving as unrestricted agents because Boston has a good track record with retaining them, but taking that gamble twice in one off-season seems risky, especially with so many players having a “preferred destination” lists with dubious levels of honesty attached to them (teams with cap space can be listed purely for leverage, making lists misleading).

I won’t reiterate the value of AD for the 1,000th time, but I’ll say that Eric Gordon is exactly the type of shooting guard the Celtics have needed for the past couple years. Despite the narrative that Boston could realistically run lineups with five good-to-great three-point shooters, one of their top priorities is finding a deadeye from deep who can play off the ball. Brad Stevens has proven his schemes can hide the defensive shortcomings of any guard, so I’m not worried about the fit there.

Eric Gordon walking away wouldn’t be back breaking. Davis leaving after one year would be pretty rough though. Again, I don’t like the risk since I still believe in both Tatum’s development and Hayward’s recovery, but it’s worth exploring possibilities to gear up for a strong run next year. We’ll know more after this summer, but there are realistic scenarios where Toronto, Milwaukee, and Philadelphia all lose key players to free agency, leaving no clear favorite to come out of the conference (again).

Maybe I’m dumb, but what exactly is the trade?

I do not think you are dumb you just got razzled by the dazzle or dazzled by the razzle. :)

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Someone said it many post ago and I agree. Smart, Tatum, 14th and filler is enough. If they convince Jrue to stay they will have 2 1St team all defenders at the 1 and 2....that’s enough on its own!
Smart doesn't move the needle for them at all. Were I them I'd say Tatum & Brown or no deal.

I have no interest in including Smart in any AD trade. Is there any chance we can get them to take Hayward?

This is gonna be a hilarious take next season when Hayward is giving us 18+ ppg in the playoffs and Smart sits out the last 10 games of the regular season diving into the stands for a loose ball in a 20-point loss for a 35-win team.
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Someone said it many post ago and I agree. Smart, Tatum, 14th and filler is enough. If they convince Jrue to stay they will have 2 1St team all defenders at the 1 and 2....that’s enough on its own!
Smart doesn't move the needle for them at all. Were I them I'd say Tatum & Brown or no deal.
It might not move the needle for you, but that package is basically what Griffin said he wanted.
He said he would look for a) an elite prospect (Tatum), b) a really good veteran role player (Smart) and c) picks

Also Smart is an All defensive 1st team player Tatum and Smart and picks is an excellent package.

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Someone said it many post ago and I agree. Smart, Tatum, 14th and filler is enough. If they convince Jrue to stay they will have 2 1St team all defenders at the 1 and 2....that’s enough on its own!
Smart doesn't move the needle for them at all. Were I them I'd say Tatum & Brown or no deal.

I have no interest in including Smart in any AD trade. Is there any chance we can get them to take Hayward?

When the hell has DA ever cared about fans and their favorite players? Matter a fact, since Smart is a fan favorite that’s how I know he will be traded lol. (Paul Pierce, KG, Avery Bradley, IT4, Perkins)

Re: Boston - Houston - New Orleans 3-Way Deal
« Reply #2983 on: June 04, 2019, 11:37:00 PM »

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Saw this on Celticsblog.com and loved the idea.
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Houston: This gets them off the Chris Paul contract and onto a Gordon Hayward rehabilitation project. They might not like the risk, but it could beat paying Chris Paul $44 million in 2022. It also gets them Jrue Holiday, a fantastic two-way guard with crucial experience playing on and off the ball, who could likely gel with Houston’s notably guard-dominant system. I’m not sure why Houston would want drastic change after coming so close to the Finals two years in a row with the same core of players still under contract, but with an apparent power struggle between Morey and ownership, a shakeup seems inevitable. The Rockets definitely need a shakeup - I’m just not sure if that calls for a complete overhaul.

Pelicans: New Orleans would likely ask for some first-round picks in the trade, and Boston would be happy to give them up (reminder: Houston has no draft picks this year). New Orleans has almost zero chance of walking away as losers in this trade. If Paul can make them competitive in the short term, great! If not, they can develop their young players and build around Zion. Capela’s contract is extremely tradeable, meaning his acquisition wouldn’t be a strict commitment to build with him as a core player. Should another star demand to be moved, Capela could be added to sweeten any trade package. Finally, Tatum has room to grow, but without the pressure of playing in Boston. Even if he stagnates, you’ve got a reliable starting-caliber player who can get you 15-20 points and play some solid defense. Oh, and draft picks. They’re a crap shoot, but you can never have too many.

Boston: Oh boy. I don’t like the idea of giving up on Hayward and trading a good, young player for two guys with one year left on their contracts. However, the nucleus of Marcus Smart and Al Horford would still be intact, Kyrie could be convinced to re-sign, and, most importantly, my favorite son Jaylen is still on the team.

Typically I wouldn’t panic over the looming possibility of players leaving as unrestricted agents because Boston has a good track record with retaining them, but taking that gamble twice in one off-season seems risky, especially with so many players having a “preferred destination” lists with dubious levels of honesty attached to them (teams with cap space can be listed purely for leverage, making lists misleading).

I won’t reiterate the value of AD for the 1,000th time, but I’ll say that Eric Gordon is exactly the type of shooting guard the Celtics have needed for the past couple years. Despite the narrative that Boston could realistically run lineups with five good-to-great three-point shooters, one of their top priorities is finding a deadeye from deep who can play off the ball. Brad Stevens has proven his schemes can hide the defensive shortcomings of any guard, so I’m not worried about the fit there.

Eric Gordon walking away wouldn’t be back breaking. Davis leaving after one year would be pretty rough though. Again, I don’t like the risk since I still believe in both Tatum’s development and Hayward’s recovery, but it’s worth exploring possibilities to gear up for a strong run next year. We’ll know more after this summer, but there are realistic scenarios where Toronto, Milwaukee, and Philadelphia all lose key players to free agency, leaving no clear favorite to come out of the conference (again).

Maybe I’m dumb, but what exactly is the trade?

I do not think you are dumb you just got razzled by the dazzle or dazzled by the razzle. :)

I’m not going to lie I still just have an empty box on my screen lol

Re: Boston - Houston - New Orleans 3-Way Deal
« Reply #2984 on: June 05, 2019, 12:04:16 AM »

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Saw this on Celticsblog.com and loved the idea.
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Houston: This gets them off the Chris Paul contract and onto a Gordon Hayward rehabilitation project. They might not like the risk, but it could beat paying Chris Paul $44 million in 2022. It also gets them Jrue Holiday, a fantastic two-way guard with crucial experience playing on and off the ball, who could likely gel with Houston’s notably guard-dominant system. I’m not sure why Houston would want drastic change after coming so close to the Finals two years in a row with the same core of players still under contract, but with an apparent power struggle between Morey and ownership, a shakeup seems inevitable. The Rockets definitely need a shakeup - I’m just not sure if that calls for a complete overhaul.

Pelicans: New Orleans would likely ask for some first-round picks in the trade, and Boston would be happy to give them up (reminder: Houston has no draft picks this year). New Orleans has almost zero chance of walking away as losers in this trade. If Paul can make them competitive in the short term, great! If not, they can develop their young players and build around Zion. Capela’s contract is extremely tradeable, meaning his acquisition wouldn’t be a strict commitment to build with him as a core player. Should another star demand to be moved, Capela could be added to sweeten any trade package. Finally, Tatum has room to grow, but without the pressure of playing in Boston. Even if he stagnates, you’ve got a reliable starting-caliber player who can get you 15-20 points and play some solid defense. Oh, and draft picks. They’re a crap shoot, but you can never have too many.

Boston: Oh boy. I don’t like the idea of giving up on Hayward and trading a good, young player for two guys with one year left on their contracts. However, the nucleus of Marcus Smart and Al Horford would still be intact, Kyrie could be convinced to re-sign, and, most importantly, my favorite son Jaylen is still on the team.

Typically I wouldn’t panic over the looming possibility of players leaving as unrestricted agents because Boston has a good track record with retaining them, but taking that gamble twice in one off-season seems risky, especially with so many players having a “preferred destination” lists with dubious levels of honesty attached to them (teams with cap space can be listed purely for leverage, making lists misleading).

I won’t reiterate the value of AD for the 1,000th time, but I’ll say that Eric Gordon is exactly the type of shooting guard the Celtics have needed for the past couple years. Despite the narrative that Boston could realistically run lineups with five good-to-great three-point shooters, one of their top priorities is finding a deadeye from deep who can play off the ball. Brad Stevens has proven his schemes can hide the defensive shortcomings of any guard, so I’m not worried about the fit there.

Eric Gordon walking away wouldn’t be back breaking. Davis leaving after one year would be pretty rough though. Again, I don’t like the risk since I still believe in both Tatum’s development and Hayward’s recovery, but it’s worth exploring possibilities to gear up for a strong run next year. We’ll know more after this summer, but there are realistic scenarios where Toronto, Milwaukee, and Philadelphia all lose key players to free agency, leaving no clear favorite to come out of the conference (again).

Maybe I’m dumb, but what exactly is the trade?

I do not think you are dumb you just got razzled by the dazzle or dazzled by the razzle. :)

I’m not going to lie I still just have an empty box on my screen lol
Not sure why the image isn't coming up for you, but the trade is as follows

Boston receives: Anthony Davis and Eric Gordon.

Houston receives: Gordon Hayward and Jrue Holiday.

New Orleans receives: Chris Paul, Jayson Tatum, Clint Capela and some unspecified draft picks.
'23 Historical Draft: Orlando Magic.

PG: Terry Porter (90-91) / Steve Francis (00-01)
SG: Joe Dumars (92-93) / Jeff Hornacek (91-92) / Jerry Stackhouse (00-01)
SF: Brandon Roy (08-09) / Walter Davis (78-79)
PF: Terry Cummings (84-85) / Paul Millsap (15-16)
C: Chris Webber (00-01) / Ralph Sampson (83-84) / Andrew Bogut (09-10)