Anthony Davis traded to Lakers(page 272)

[ozgod]

Woj

in the Lakers first offer to the Pelicans for Anthony Davis, LA offered Lonzo Ball, Kyle Kuzma, Rajon Rondo, Michael Beasley and a first-round pick, league sources tell ESPN.

As the NBA trade deadline approaches on Thursday, Lakers have yet to offer multiple first-round picks in any deal, or salary cap relief, league sources tell ESPN. Lakers offering several different deal ideas, but none serious enough for a Pelicans counter yet, sources said


So let me get this straight... All that they offered was Ball Kuzma and a pick? Rondo and Beasley are expiring contracts and vets so they don't matter.  What a pathetic offer

  I guess Magic and Rob Pelinka really believe in the adage of "starting the bidding low".

[gouki88]

Woj

in the Lakers first offer to the Pelicans for Anthony Davis, LA offered Lonzo Ball, Kyle Kuzma, Rajon Rondo, Michael Beasley and a first-round pick, league sources tell ESPN.

As the NBA trade deadline approaches on Thursday, Lakers have yet to offer multiple first-round picks in any deal, or salary cap relief, league sources tell ESPN. Lakers offering several different deal ideas, but none serious enough for a Pelicans counter yet, sources said


So let me get this straight... All that they offered was Ball Kuzma and a pick? Rondo and Beasley are expiring contracts and vets so they don't matter.  What a pathetic offer

  I guess Magic and Rob Pelinka really believe in the adage of "starting the bidding low".

Right? What an insulting offer, lol.

[radiohead]

I wonder how these guys, specifically Rondo, would take this piece of news.

[j804]

Anybody think all this Rich Paul and media babble that Kyrie wants to leave and team up with lebron and so and so just makes Kyrie want to stay even more and prove everybody wrong? Go ahead keep talking and it's only going to make our group tighter. I don't think he's going anywhere.

[cltc5]

I’m hoping this bull galvanizes the team.  You wanna talk trash on us?  You don’t wanna come here?  Now watch this...

[cltc5]

Don’t know if anyone caught it at halftime but pot stirring espn made sure to reiterate it during the game about how he didn’t trust Boston because of what they did to IT.  If that’s not the most blatant use of guiding the narrative of this AD to LA nonsense, I don’t know what is.

“Anthony Davis Sr. sounded off on the Boston Celtics today, and it looks like Danny Ainge’s shrewd way of business may cost him the player he’s coveted for years.

According to ESPN’s Ramona Shelburne, Davis Sr. cited Ainge’s handling of Isaiah Thomas as the reason he would never want AD to don a Celtics jersey.

‘I would never want my son to play for Boston after what they done Isaiah Thomas. No loyalty. Guy gives his heart and soul and they traded him.’


First off Doris Burke shilled all over the broadcast last night about the AD to LA circus.  It’s disgusting how much espn, lovers of lebron, and based in LA, are pushing this stuff.  It’s what they do but it’s irresponsible, which is also what they do.

And since when did AD’s dad care about IT or Ramona the hutt, who apparently got the text .

Even if true, AD’s dad needs to look at his own sons actions in the last two weeks before he starts talking about trust. Sorry, had to vent about that cuz it annoyed the hell outta me last nite

[konkmv]

Loyal davis gave up on his team

[Moranis]

Wow, Wilbon hit the nail on the head there. He said that he knows Davis, and this does not seem like Davis. He said that Davis does not look comfortable with how all of this is going down, and he feels like he might be getting pressured into all of this LA controversy by Paul and others.

This has been my perspective the entire time. I think AD legitimately would like to go to LA now, as he then doesn't waste a half season of his prime still on the Pelicans. However, all of this about him only going to LA and not going to Boston is just nonsense meant to pressure NOLA. If he truly wants to win, there's no argument that Boston is best situated to give him that wish, ESPECIALLY if he doesn't get traded at the deadline, which would mean he would be joining a 36 year old James in LA. Yeah, seems like a good idea for "winning."

except 36 year old James (well 34 to 35 next year) is still a far better player than anyone currently on Boston and thus would in fact give Davis the best shot a title next season or the season after (if you are only looking at LA and Boston).  Now sure, Boston has a much longer window, but longer doesn't necessarily mean better.

Lol, what? The Lakers aren’t even a playoff team as it stands. LeBron being better than any of our guys is meaningless because their team sucks. AD on that team does not have anything close to the title likelihood that AD on our team would

Sure because they went 6-11 without James on the floor.  They are 21-14 with James on the floor.  That would be 31-21 or the 5th seed (and a game behind Portland for 4th) if they won at the same 60% pace in those 17 missed games. 

Let's just say they trade all 5 of their young players (and filler), they would still have a starting 5 of Rondo, KCP, James, Davis, McGee with some solid vets on the bench.  Of course I don't think they are trading all 5 of the young players, because New Orleans isn't absorbing that many players.  That is just for the rest of this season (which gives Davis a real shot this year, something he doesn't have now and can't have in Boston).  Next summer, the Lakers would be set up to cap space for a very large contract to end up in town with Davis and James.  To acquire Davis, Boston would have to give Smart and Tatum at a minimum, that would still leave a nice team of Irving, Brown, Hayward, Davis, and Horford with some solid vets on the bench, but that team has no one near as good as James and who knows who that 3rd person (if anyone) is the Lakers sign.  What if Leonard decides he wants to play with Davis and James or Klay, or Durant (or heaven forbid Irving).  Now sure that is a riskier proposition for Davis, but hitching your wagons to James hasn't exactly been a bad thing.

At some point James is going to show his mileage, but he is still the best player in the world and that will always give his team a shot, especially when you add a talent like Davis to him (they would actually complement each other well).

So your entire opinion on whether LA has a better chance at a title revolves around a ton of what ifs for how Magic Johnson can fill out the rest of the roster, when there is nothing but certainty of who will make up the core of the Celtics next year and beyond.

Also, odds makers already have Boston as tied for second best chance to win the title this year. Add Davis and odds makers make Boston a favorite to win the title or at least second best chance(no ties with anyone in the East) along with GSW.

Given all the what ifs in your defense of your statement and the certainties in Boston, there is no way LA is more likely to win a title next year. Give LA Davis and Butler and guess what? They still aren't even favored to best GSW if GSW returns everyone. So oddsmakers would probably still have Boston be 2nd best odds to win the title because they have an easier road to get to the Finals.
 
And I am not even get into the fact you seem to have Davis being in LA next week so LA won't have to trade all their youth, when it's pretty clear NO isn't dealing Davis next week.
And if that happens, LAL WILL have to trade all their youth.

So really, no matter where Davis ends up, it's still more likely that Boston wins a title before LA.

No, its because they have Lebron who, whether you think he is still the best player in the world, is still a far better player than anyone on the Celtics. That stuff matters, especially in the post-season.

And sure it is easier to make the Finals in the East, but a Lakers team with Lebron, Davis, and Butler still has a better shot at beating the Warriors (if they all return) then the Celtics with Davis, Irving, Hayward, and Horford.  Both still might lose to the Warriors, but the Lakers would have a better shot.

[RodyTur10]

At this rate, this thread may cross 500 pages by this summer   

At how many pages ended the maybe-Durant-signs-in-Boston-saga?

[mctyson]

Don’t know if anyone caught it at halftime but pot stirring espn made sure to reiterate it during the game about how he didn’t trust Boston because of what they did to IT.  If that’s not the most blatant use of guiding the narrative of this AD to LA nonsense, I don’t know what is.

“Anthony Davis Sr. sounded off on the Boston Celtics today, and it looks like Danny Ainge’s shrewd way of business may cost him the player he’s coveted for years.

According to ESPN’s Ramona Shelburne, Davis Sr. cited Ainge’s handling of Isaiah Thomas as the reason he would never want AD to don a Celtics jersey.

‘I would never want my son to play for Boston after what they done Isaiah Thomas. No loyalty. Guy gives his heart and soul and they traded him.’


First off Doris Burke shilled all over the broadcast last night about the AD to LA circus.  It’s disgusting how much espn, lovers of lebron, and based in LA, are pushing this stuff.  It’s what they do but it’s irresponsible, which is also what they do.

And since when did AD’s dad care about IT or Ramona the hutt, who apparently got the text .

Even if true, AD’s dad needs to look at his own sons actions in the last two weeks before he starts talking about trust. Sorry, had to vent about that cuz it annoyed the hell outta me last nite

Yeah but Pierce, on the same ESPN broadcast, called out all the BS.

[gouki88]

At this rate, this thread may cross 500 pages by this summer   

At how many pages ended the maybe-Durant-signs-in-Boston-saga?

I remember one Hayward topic got to around 150 pages or so. The Brooklyn season watch thread from some year got 300 IIRC

[RodyTur10]

Sources with The Athletic's Pelicans reporter
@WillGuillory
: One player the Lakers have not placed in discussions with Pelicans for Anthony Davis (besides LeBron James): Kentavious Caldwell-Pope.

Since KCP is on a one year contract, he has a no trade clause. Lakers most likely already went to him to ask if he would be willing to waive the no trade clause so they can trade him to NOLA or somewhere else. He then could easily have said no meaning the Lakers can't offer him to the Pels or anyone else if KCP wants to stay in LA.

Smart move by KCP. If the Lakers are able to trade for Davis, KCP is a guaranteed starter on that depleted roster in the playoffs. Putting up some good numbers as the main 3-point-option could yield him a nice new contract.

[mctyson]

IT got a bad deal no question there. I’m sure there is some kind of ‘oh yeah well something else and this other thing!’ kind of defensive shifting the field goals comment to make about it but it happened. We screwed him pretty bad. Used him up, discarded him.

TP.  I commented in 2017, following AD's quote, that it was a poor decision by Ainge/ownership that could come back to haunt us.  AD is the prize of the decade and should've been priority for our 5-10 year plan.  There's a short list of guys that can be the best player on a championship team; if we missed out on him, we aren't contending anytime soon.

Nonsense. 

First, there is not a GM in the entire league that walks away from that Kyrie-IT trade.  So this idea that the Celtics are evil-doers who just churn players and spit them out is crap.

Also, a lot of that whole situation was on IT.  People give him credibility for 'playing through injury' when in the end he was so hurt he could not finish the playoffs.  What good is it to have a player who makes a bad injury even worse for regular season wins?  It was in retrospect very selfish on his part and could have ruined the Celtics future if they signed him to a massive longterm contract.  Look at how the Hayward deal is hurting this team currently.  IT has barely played basketball in 2 years.

Finally, what exactly would this board do if they saw Ainge and Co. resign players with known injuries only to have them never play?

[RMO]

Don’t know if anyone caught it at halftime but pot stirring espn made sure to reiterate it during the game about how he didn’t trust Boston because of what they did to IT.  If that’s not the most blatant use of guiding the narrative of this AD to LA nonsense, I don’t know what is.

“Anthony Davis Sr. sounded off on the Boston Celtics today, and it looks like Danny Ainge’s shrewd way of business may cost him the player he’s coveted for years.

According to ESPN’s Ramona Shelburne, Davis Sr. cited Ainge’s handling of Isaiah Thomas as the reason he would never want AD to don a Celtics jersey.

‘I would never want my son to play for Boston after what they done Isaiah Thomas. No loyalty. Guy gives his heart and soul and they traded him.’


First off Doris Burke shilled all over the broadcast last night about the AD to LA circus.  It’s disgusting how much espn, lovers of lebron, and based in LA, are pushing this stuff.  It’s what they do but it’s irresponsible, which is also what they do.

And since when did AD’s dad care about IT or Ramona the hutt, who apparently got the text .

Even if true, AD’s dad needs to look at his own sons actions in the last two weeks before he starts talking about trust. Sorry, had to vent about that cuz it annoyed the hell outta me last nite

That was such a move my Klutch:

1.  His dad reaches out to Shelburne with that quote the day the Celtics have a nationally televised game.

2.  Sport center broadcasts it as they sign off, leading into the pre-game coverage of the nationally televised game. 

3.  For the next three hours the Celtics are on TV and this is breaking news.

[RodyTur10]

I wonder how these guys, specifically Rondo, would take this piece of news.

Very interesting, since I'm sure Rondo sees himself as one of the team's leaders on- and offcourt to lead the team in the playoffs. And actually I thought so to.

But they need some salary filler anyway, since even Ball+Hart+Ingram+Kuzma+Zubac isn't enough salary to match Davis' contract.