Anthony Davis traded to Lakers(page 272)

[Roy H.]

Ainge is always willing to communicate and be realistic.

I appreciate that he has done that with the current players, but I think this has been a fault of Ainge's in the past.  Both Ray Allen and IT were absolutely blindsided by their trades (in Ray's case, the deal fell through, but the hurt feelings remained).

[Monkhouse]

Ainge is always willing to communicate and be realistic.

I appreciate that he has done that with the current players, but I think this has been a fault of Ainge's in the past.  Both Ray Allen and IT were absolutely blindsided by their trades (in Ray's case, the deal fell through, but the hurt feelings remained).

I believe he has done that with the other past players too. But yeah can't fault him for the Allen debacle. Expressing that he was going to be traded, right before he complained about minutes/role, and being replaced by Bradley probably wouldn't have sit too well. I do feel bad for Thomas, but ultimately while Ainge is always open to communicate, sometimes he bits the bullet and makes the tough decisions.

[Roy H.]

Ainge is always willing to communicate and be realistic.

I appreciate that he has done that with the current players, but I think this has been a fault of Ainge's in the past.  Both Ray Allen and IT were absolutely blindsided by their trades (in Ray's case, the deal fell through, but the hurt feelings remained).

I believe he has done that with the other past players too. But yeah can't fault him for the Allen debacle. Expressing that he was going to be traded, right before he complained about minutes/role, and being replaced by Bradley probably wouldn't have sit too well. I do feel bad for Thomas, but ultimately while Ainge is always open to communicate, sometimes he bits the bullet and makes the tough decisions.

Is there any evidence that he communicated with Ray and IT, telling them that they might be traded?  I'm just not seeing the same communication that you are.

I like that he can make tough decisions.  I do think that his bedside manner probably could have been a bit softer in the past.

[Silky]

IF Tatum is being discussed in a potential deal, then Hayward needs as much burn and opportunity as possible.

Either put him in as the starting SG, or move Tatum to the PF spot(Dont like that idea) or the BEST idea - Make a trade for a starting center

Vucevic
Bam
Dedmon
Bryant
even Okafor

someone that youo can make a deal for, ideally on the cheap, that puts Horf at the PF spot and opens touches for Hayward.

Rozier for Bryant 
Rozier and Yabusele for Bryant and Dekker
Rozier and Williams for Bryant and Satoransky

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http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/25938197/new-orleans-pelicans-sit-anthony-davis-trade-deadline

Pels not taking any chances.

[Monkhouse]

Ainge is always willing to communicate and be realistic.

I appreciate that he has done that with the current players, but I think this has been a fault of Ainge's in the past.  Both Ray Allen and IT were absolutely blindsided by their trades (in Ray's case, the deal fell through, but the hurt feelings remained).

I believe he has done that with the other past players too. But yeah can't fault him for the Allen debacle. Expressing that he was going to be traded, right before he complained about minutes/role, and being replaced by Bradley probably wouldn't have sit too well. I do feel bad for Thomas, but ultimately while Ainge is always open to communicate, sometimes he bits the bullet and makes the tough decisions.

Is there any evidence that he communicated with Ray and IT, telling them that they might be traded?  I'm just not seeing the same communication that you are.

I like that he can make tough decisions.  I do think that his bedside manner probably could have been a bit softer in the past.

I do remember there was some previous past evidence for Ray, but I cannot seem to find any, or maybe just too old. As for IT, I don't think so. Ainge only called right after the trade happened, but Isaiah hung up immediately, fighting back tears.

[footey]

Floated this on another thread:

Could we trade Terry to NO for a 1st round pick, then include the pick if/when we trade for Davis 7/1?  May need to get league pre-approval. Is there anything in CBA that would prohibit this?   

This gives New Orleans an additional asset (Rozier) that we could not otherwise include in our trade package later on.  Each side bears the risk of not consummating a deal later on.  Just not sure whether Rozier has that much value; maybe make it lottery protected for a couple of years like the Clippers pick.

[CelticSooner]

I love how the media likes to spin things like they know what Ainge is telling Demps.   

[mef730]

I love how the media likes to spin things like they know what Ainge is telling Demps.   

That's right. Only those of us on CS know what Ainge is telling Demps.

Mike

[nickagneta]

IF Tatum is being discussed in a potential deal, then Hayward needs as much burn and opportunity as possible.

Either put him in as the starting SG, or move Tatum to the PF spot(Dont like that idea) or the BEST idea - Make a trade for a starting center

Vucevic
Bam
Dedmon
Bryant
even Okafor

someone that youo can make a deal for, ideally on the cheap, that puts Horf at the PF spot and opens touches for Hayward.

Rozier for Bryant 
Rozier and Yabusele for Bryant and Dekker
Rozier and Williams for Bryant and Satoransky

You seem to be an extremely reactive to every rumor you hear. Danny plays the long game and has patience.

Ainge has been working on getting Davis for years, keeping communications open and accumulating the types of assets that Demps would want for Davis. Ainge doesn't throw away all that work for a last minute, over reaction to Baynes being hurt, mid season trade of a center who will be a free agent at season's end and who doesn't fit the Celtics system in Vucevic.

Those other centers are worse than Baynes and I don't see any being starters, just as I don't see Baynes as a starter.

Actually not sure why we need to change the starting five at all. That group is the 2nd best starting group in the league after GSW.

As for giving Hayward more minutes. He is getting about 27mpg now. His usage rate is around 20%. I think his minutes are fine. I think he could be more aggressive shooting  and running the show when he is out there but at what expense to other players who are currently shooting and scoring more efficiently? I for one have no problem with only two of the four rotational bench having good scoring games. Some nights Brown isn't going to score, others Hayward, yet others Rozier and most probably Baynes won't but sometimes he will. As long as that bench can get about 40-50 points a night as a whole, I don't care who scores.

So if Hayward needs shoot more or be the lead playmaker more great, but he doesn't deserve to be getting 4-5 minutes more a night than Morris, Tatum or Brown.

[SHAQATTACK]

I think we are screwed in every direction if KD leaves GS , no matter where he goes. I hope im wrong

[CelticSooner]

I love how the media likes to spin things like they know what Ainge is telling Demps.   

That's right. Only those of us on CS know what Ainge is telling Demps.

Mike

I know what he had for lunch lol

[Bobshot]

From what I've seen so far, I expect the Lakers will make a final push, leveraging the media to put pressure on the Pel management. Seems foolish the Pels would trade him now, instead of increasing the ante next summer.

The challenge will be to keep Davis healthy. He is not that durable, as many in fantasy play know.

[Bobshot]

Chris Mannix on First Things First saying that AD will be a Celtic
https://youtu.be/b4gt9DDbtgs

Adrian Wojnarowski
@wojespn
The New Orleans Pelicans still haven't responded on the Los Angeles Lakers' most recent trade proposal for Anthony Davis, league sources tell ESPN. Pelicans have yet to engage L.A. on trade talks. Deadline is nearly 24 hours away.


Woj has a trade deadline special at 5:00pm
Wonder what he will say

you know it's going to go down to the wire. The Pels want the lakers to suffer as much as possible.

With good reason. The Lakers have been getting a ton of help from the media, and the creativity of Davis' agent, who never saw a big market he didn't like. That's typical of all agents, who see more money in NY and LA. Trouble is Lakers aren't very good, and Lebron is looking old at 34 with lots of treadware on the tires.

The Pels know Tatum is on the table. He's the lynchpin and the draw of any deal. He gives the Celtics leverage over other teams.

You get Davis, and introduce him to Boston-- currently the greatest American city in sports. The Champion Red Sox and Patriots, and the legendary Celtics.

[knuckleballer]

Here's an interesting unbiased way to compare the Celtics's trade assets to the Lakers'. 

https://mobile.twitter.com/T1m_NBA/status/1092978325876862977?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1092978325876862977&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fcdn.rawgit.com%2Fs9e%2Fs9e.github.io%2Fmaster%2Fiframe%2Ftwitter.min.html%231092978325876862977