Simmons has serious Flaws in his game

[gift]

I'd say his only real "flaw" is his shooting. I don't consider inexperience to be a flaw since that will resolve itself.

His shooting is considerably less of a problem than his inability to make 60% of his free throws.

I guess I consider his free throw percentage to be part of his shooting since, you know, he has to shoot them.

[kozlodoev]

I'd say his only real "flaw" is his shooting. I don't consider inexperience to be a flaw since that will resolve itself.

His shooting is considerably less of a problem than his inability to make 60% of his free throws.

I guess I consider his free throw percentage to be part of his shooting since, you know, he has to shoot them.

Yeah, except the two skills aren't really all that related.

[gift]

I'd say his only real "flaw" is his shooting. I don't consider inexperience to be a flaw since that will resolve itself.

His shooting is considerably less of a problem than his inability to make 60% of his free throws.

I guess I consider his free throw percentage to be part of his shooting since, you know, he has to shoot them.

Yeah, except the two skills aren't really all that related.

Hmmmm... k

[tonydelk]

Simmons has 1 year of NBA game experience.  Everyone has flaws when they first come in to the league. In two years he will be a top 10 NBA player.  Dude is amazing and if he can develop a league average jump shot good night.  Simmons and Embiid are just unreal. 

[moiso]

I'd say his only real "flaw" is his shooting. I don't consider inexperience to be a flaw since that will resolve itself.

His shooting is considerably less of a problem than his inability to make 60% of his free throws.

I guess I consider his free throw percentage to be part of his shooting since, you know, he has to shoot them.

Yeah, except the two skills aren't really all that related.

This gave me a good laugh.  Shooting is not related to shooting? LOL.

[kozlodoev]

I'd say his only real "flaw" is his shooting. I don't consider inexperience to be a flaw since that will resolve itself.

His shooting is considerably less of a problem than his inability to make 60% of his free throws.

I guess I consider his free throw percentage to be part of his shooting since, you know, he has to shoot them.

Yeah, except the two skills aren't really all that related.

This gave me a good laugh.  Shooting is not related to shooting? LOL.

Yes, making a free throw is only tangentially related to making a jump shot in game situations. Shocker, I know.

[timpiker]

If they ran more he'd be a Magic-clone.

[moiso]

I'd say his only real "flaw" is his shooting. I don't consider inexperienced to be a flaw since that will resolve itself.

His shooting is considerably less of a problem than his inability to make 60% of his free throws.

I guess I consider his free throw percentage to be part of his shooting since, you know, he has to shoot them.

Yeah, except the two skills aren't really all that related.

This gave me a good laugh.  Shooting is not related to shooting? LOL.

Yes, making a free throw is only tangentially related to making a jump shot in game situations. Shocker, I know.

Something tells me that he will improve at both at the same time.  But I get your point since we have our own case study in Marcus Smart. 

[kozlodoev]

I'd say his only real "flaw" is his shooting. I don't consider inexperience to be a flaw since that will resolve itself.

His shooting is considerably less of a problem than his inability to make 60% of his free throws.

I guess I consider his free throw percentage to be part of his shooting since, you know, he has to shoot them.

Yeah, except the two skills aren't really all that related.

This gave me a good laugh.  Shooting is not related to shooting? LOL.

Yes, making a free throw is only tangentially related to making a jump shot in game situations. Shocker, I know.

Something tells me that he will improve at both at the same time.

Rondo didn't. And neither did Jason Kidd. Plenty of big men never develop reliable mid- and long-range shooting yet manage to not be embarrassingly bad with their free throws. These are two completely different situations with completely different concentration/rhythm patterns.

[Big333223]

He's 21. He's got flaws. He also has a preternatural understanding of basketball and passing angles and has terrific vision. He's already very good, he's going to be great. I'm looking forward to watching the Celtics beat him in the playoffs for a long time because he is a heck of a lot of fun to watch.

And I'm excited to see Jaylen Brown guard him soon. 

[Moranis]

I'd say his only real "flaw" is his shooting. I don't consider inexperience to be a flaw since that will resolve itself.

His shooting is considerably less of a problem than his inability to make 60% of his free throws.

I guess I consider his free throw percentage to be part of his shooting since, you know, he has to shoot them.

Yeah, except the two skills aren't really all that related.

This gave me a good laugh.  Shooting is not related to shooting? LOL.

Yes, making a free throw is only tangentially related to making a jump shot in game situations. Shocker, I know.

Something tells me that he will improve at both at the same time.

Rondo didn't. And neither did Jason Kidd. Plenty of big men never develop reliable mid- and long-range shooting yet manage to not be embarrassingly bad with their free throws. These are two completely different situations with completely different concentration/rhythm patterns.

what are you talking about?  Jason Kidd's rookie year he shot 27.2% from 3 and 69.8% from the line.  He ended up with career averages of 34.9 and 78.5 with his career bests at 42.5 and 87.  In other words, he improved both. 

While it is true that Rondo never improved his foul shooting, he did improve his 3 point  shooting a great deal so he helps with your point, Kidd does not however.

[kozlodoev]

I'd say his only real "flaw" is his shooting. I don't consider inexperience to be a flaw since that will resolve itself.

His shooting is considerably less of a problem than his inability to make 60% of his free throws.

I guess I consider his free throw percentage to be part of his shooting since, you know, he has to shoot them.

Yeah, except the two skills aren't really all that related.

This gave me a good laugh.  Shooting is not related to shooting? LOL.

Yes, making a free throw is only tangentially related to making a jump shot in game situations. Shocker, I know.

Something tells me that he will improve at both at the same time.

Rondo didn't. And neither did Jason Kidd. Plenty of big men never develop reliable mid- and long-range shooting yet manage to not be embarrassingly bad with their free throws. These are two completely different situations with completely different concentration/rhythm patterns.

what are you talking about?  Jason Kidd's rookie year he shot 27.2% from 3 and 69.8% from the line.  He ended up with career averages of 34.9 and 78.5 with his career bests at 42.5 and 87.  In other words, he improved both. 

While it is true that Rondo never improved his foul shooting, he did improve his 3 point  shooting a great deal so he helps with your point, Kidd does not however.

Yes, except Kidd shot 34% from three in his second season and never really looked back, and it took years for his free throw shooting to catch up. As late as his fifth season, he was 40% from three and 69% from FT -- and  that wasn't a one-year aberration. Two different skills, two different improvement timelines.

That's what I'm talking about.

[footey]

His shooting mechanics are pretty poor, which is not going to help him if the goal is to make him a better shooter.

[Erik]

Simmons has 1 year of NBA game experience.  Everyone has flaws when they first come in to the league. In two years he will be a top 10 NBA player.  Dude is amazing and if he can develop a league average jump shot good night. Simmons and Embiid are just unreal.

Yeah lets just get him into a practice room and have him shoot a bunch of shots and he'll magically be a competent shooter. Do you comprehend how difficult it is? He has bad shooting mechanics. That immediately caps his ceiling to what he currently is -- someone who has had bad shooting mechanics since age 8. He has to overhaul his shooting mechanics, which means starting from square one shooting against players who had the correct mechanics since age 8. If he's 100% committed, he can MAYBE develop a decent jumper in about 5-8 years. I just don't see him as the type that is going to bust his ass for 8 years. Even Marcus Smart -- with all of the desire that that man has, hasn't made a lick of progress in the shooting department after 4 years. It is hard for a reason. If it were easy, there would be way more JJ Redicks in the NBA.

The reason I say this is because when you make a statement that he will be a top 10 player in 2 years, know that his shot will still be bad by then. He will have to be exactly LeBron James. I am not prepared to crown him based on what I have seen. He has trouble finishing around the hoop, he doesn't have the size to push people out of the way, and even if he does get by you, all you have to do is foul him to save 1 point. He's just not showing any signs that he will be a top 10 player yet. Top 30 (entering into Allstar level), I may be on board.

Another thing that irritates me is that it's not that hard to get a triple double as a point guard. You basically just have to grab 10 boards. If the offense retreats after a miss, the PG grabs the board. That happens a bunch. It basically means that you have to fight for a couple boards every game to get 10 boards. Assists are way too easy to get because what constitutes an assist is very broad. Basically you have to count on 10 people making a basket after passing them the ball. Not that difficult. The point is that it is a nice statistic if obtained fairly, but if you are a professional stat padder, it doesn't mean much.

[Moranis]

I'd say his only real "flaw" is his shooting. I don't consider inexperience to be a flaw since that
will resolve itself.

His shooting is considerably less of a problem than his inability to make 60% of his free throws.

I guess I consider his free throw percentage to be part of his shooting since, you know, he has to shoot them.

Yeah, except the two skills aren't really all that related.

This gave me a good laugh.  Shooting is not related to shooting? LOL.

Yes, making a free throw is only tangentially related to making a jump shot in game situations. Shocker, I know.

Something tells me that he will improve at both at the same time.

Rondo didn't. And neither did Jason Kidd. Plenty of big men never develop reliable mid- and long-range shooting yet manage to not be embarrassingly bad with their free throws. These are two completely different situations with completely different concentration/rhythm patterns.

what are you talking about?  Jason Kidd's rookie year he shot 27.2% from 3 and 69.8% from the line.  He ended up with career averages of 34.9 and 78.5 with his career bests at 42.5 and 87.  In other words, he improved both. 

While it is true that Rondo never improved his foul shooting, he did improve his 3 point  shooting a great deal so he helps with your point, Kidd does not however.

Yes, except Kidd shot 34% from three in his second season and never really looked back, and it took years for his free throw shooting to catch up. As late as his fifth season, he was 40% from three and 69% from FT -- and  that wasn't a one-year aberration. Two different skills, two different improvement timelines.

That's what I'm talking about.

Kidd's 5th year in the league he shot 36.6% from 3 and 75.7% from the line.  he was basically an 80% foul shooter in his 4th year.  The only 3 years in his career he was under 70% were his first 3.  His 3 point shooting was all over the place until very late in his career (for example, his 7th year he was at just 29.7%)